How hot is too hot?

[BNA/LION]

Here's What Oppressive Heat Does to You

Dehydration and electrolyte imbalance can be the byproducts of overheating, according to Dr. Jaiva Larsen of Banner – University Medical Center Tucson.

https://uanews.arizona.edu/story/her...-heat-does-you

[Alexwwjd]

Scarlett Johansson? Margot Robbie?


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[GerardoG]

106f here now....

[GerardoG]

Originally Posted by Alexwwjd

Scarlett Johansson? Margot Robbie?


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[returntorolex]

Originally Posted by Alexwwjd

Scarlett Johansson? Margot Robbie?


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Please add Jennifer Connelly

[Abdullah71601]

When I was in Iraq in 2005 it was 148 F in the shade one day. I worked outside and drank 15 liters of water in six hours without needing to pee... that's just about warm enough.

[rickyslam]

This was Tuesday out here in Vegas, NV.

[G8RDPM]

Larry, come visit!
Pool and cold drinks here. And a few degrees colder here in the south!

[BristolCavendish]

For me, anything over 80 degrees F (which is why I enjoy visiting the northern SD area or Monterey County). Those areas always seem to have a natural outdoor thermostat preset to the mid-70s max.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

When I was in Iraq in 2005 it was 148 F in the shade one day. I worked outside and drank 15 liters of water in six hours without needing to pee... that's just about warm enough.

That's a lot indeed. According to American Chemistry Society 6 liters can kill a 165-pound person, so you must had faced an extreme situation to demand that much fluid.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/water-in...-person-312958

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by FTX I

That's a lot indeed. According to American Chemistry Society 6 liters can kill a 165-pound person, so you must had faced an extreme situation to demand that much fluid.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/water-in...-person-312958

I was sweating it out about as fast as I could drink it. It was a very dry heat. Sweat would evaporate so quickly that it didn't really feel like I was sweating much.

The greater risk was flushing too much salt.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I was sweating it out about as fast as I could drink it. It was a very dry heat. Sweat would evaporate so quickly that it didn't really feel like I was sweating much.

The greater risk was flushing too much salt.

Impressive Abdullah. I don't think I could handlle something like that


ps 'must have' not had.

[bdex75]

Originally Posted by rickyslam

This was Tuesday out here in Vegas, NV.

I hate heat and love the cold. I would not leave the AC in that w at her.


Off the topic question, do you use the projection feature on your (GM car/truck) radio? I was looking at a new truck and it did not have navigation. I didn't much care as it sucks anyhow. Is it just google maps you can project and does it work as advertised?


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[Runnin' Rebel]

Outside on the ramp. In the Shade

[Ruud Van Driver]

It's pretty much between 80 and 110 here all year round, so I don't understand people getting their Alan's in a twist over a bit of warm weather. It's the humidity that I really don't like.

Talking of Alan Whicker's, the first time I went back home after moving out here I left all my original 95% cotton Alan's at home and switched them up for 100% cotton. It's amazing how much more comfort comes from the extra 5% cotton

[rickyslam]

Originally Posted by bdex75

I hate heat and love the cold. I would not leave the AC in that w at her.


Off the topic question, do you use the projection feature on your (GM car/truck) radio? I was looking at a new truck and it did not have navigation. I didn't much care as it sucks anyhow. Is it just google maps you can project and does it work as advertised?


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Great observation on the vehicle! I do use the projection whenever I get in the truck. That's not to say I would miss it if it wasn't there. It's really convenient and I love how it reads my text messages to me and I can respond to it via voice. With this interface and technology there's almost no reason to pick up your phone while you're in the car.

It plays my music, podcasts, Spotify, and pandora. It has Bluetooth music also if you choose not to plug it in. The only thing I do not like about it is that you have to use apple maps if you want a navigation to be displayed. Waze and google maps do no work on it but if you do still use it, the directions will still come through the speakers.

Message me if you have any questions. So that we don't hijack this discussion. I've had the truck since February and it is a 2017. I hope that helps. Apologies to everyone else in this thread.

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I was sweating it out about as fast as I could drink it. It was a very dry heat. Sweat would evaporate so quickly that it didn't really feel like I was sweating much.

The greater risk was flushing too much salt.

That's why you didn't get heatstroke....evaporative cooling and fluid replacement...

A more humid (hot) climate and heatstroke is much harder to fend off as the sweat won't evaporate at the rate needed to cool.

[Rock]

It also depends on how you have to 'endure' those high temps.
Having to work out in it is so different from being able to duck in and out of shade all day.
Good head-gear becomes essential to cope with the heat as well as frequent 'rest' periods.
I sometimes see roofers and construction workers on the job in 100+ degree heat and wonder how they are hacking it.

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

That's why you didn't get heatstroke....evaporative cooling and fluid replacement...

A more humid (hot) climate and heatstroke is much harder to fend off as the sweat won't evaporate at the rate needed to cool.

Very true. I copped heatstroke out here last year working offshore in the holds of a bulk carrier. The temperature was 98 degrees F and humidity was over 90%. I drank six litres of fluid in six hours and that wasn't enough. I got home and felt dreadful; was talking to Mrs Van D over FaceTime and she said I needed to cool myself off immediately (she recognised it, I didn't). She said to get an ice pack under each arm pit and one on the back of my neck. Because of the amount of times I injure myself in the gym, I happened to have three in the freezer ready to go. I laid down on the bed, put them in place and passed out. Not nice.

As a point of interest, heatstroke in a baby is one of the few reasons that a major British airline will divert a plane for (there are obvious caveats, such as if there's a doctor on board they might not necessarily need to divert. If the plane happens to be over a ropey area, they won't divert and so on).

[Runnin' Rebel]

Planes don't fly at 118 degrees especially the comuters

I know in the mid 1980 those 707's and DC 8's were not aloud to take off even with 12k feet runway

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Planes don't fly at 118 degrees especially the comuters

I know in the mid 1980 those 707's and DC 8's were not aloud to take off even with 12k feet runway

Why is that?

In the middle east they run full planes non-stop throughout the day at temperatures over 120. Most of their airports are near sea level though.

[Runnin' Rebel]

And speaking of air planes Quatar airways is trying to buy a large block of AA and the board is a bit nervous. I think 5%, , but according to US law I think 25% is the maximum for foreign companies

EDITED

[MonBK]

10% is what they want to buy.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

Very true. I copped heatstroke out here last year working offshore in the holds of a bulk carrier. The temperature was 98 degrees F and humidity was over 90%. I drank six litres of fluid in six hours and that wasn't enough. I got home and felt dreadful; was talking to Mrs Van D over FaceTime and she said I needed to cool myself off immediately (she recognised it, I didn't). She said to get an ice pack under each arm pit and one on the back of my neck. Because of the amount of times I injure myself in the gym, I happened to have three in the freezer ready to go. I laid down on the bed, put them in place and passed out. Not nice.

As a point of interest, heatstroke in a baby is one of the few reasons that a major British airline will divert a plane for (there are obvious caveats, such as if there's a doctor on board they might not necessarily need to divert. If the plane happens to be over a ropey area, they won't divert and so on).

Heat injuries are serious business. You were very fortunate that Mrs. Ruud recognized the problem. A few more hours and they may have needed an ice bath and chilled IV's to cool you down.

My earliest symptom of dehydration is uncomfortable contact lenses. My eyes will start feeling a little dry long before I experience any serious symptoms. When that occurs I know it's time to accelerate rehydration. I've spent a lot of time working outside in high heat and have been blessed not to have experienced a heat injury.

[Runnin' Rebel]

Here's a statement sent to me today

I couldn't post the letter cause size limits on the new and improved upload fix from computer option attachments


As you likely know by now, American recently received notice as part of the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act (a federal process governing large purchases of stock of publicly traded companies) that Qatar Airways has indicated its desire to make an investment in American Airlines.
American Airlines is a publicly traded company, which means our stock is available for anyone to purchase on the Nasdaq Stock Market. We don’t own those shares – they belong to the shareholders who own this company – and we cannot control who sells or purchases them. But this is an important development for American and one I wanted you to hear about from me directly.
While anyone can purchase our shares in the open market, we aren’t particularly excited about Qatar’s outreach, and we find it puzzling given our extremely public stance on the illegal subsidies that Qatar, Emirates and Etihad have all received over the years from their governments. We remain committed to that effort, and we will remain so even with this potential investment.


While today’s news for some of our team may be puzzling, at best, and concerning, at worst, here’s what we know for sure: We will not be discouraged or dissuaded from our full court press in Washington, D.C., to stand up to companies that are illegally subsidized by their governments. We stand for American Airlines, and we stand for all of you and the amazing work you do every day, around the globe, to take care of our customers.
If anything, this development strengthens our resolve to ensure the U.S. government enforces its trade agreements regarding fair competition with Gulf carriers, because we must make it crystal clear that no minority investment in American will ever dissuade us from doing what is right for our team members, our customers and all of our shareholders. And do not worry, per U.S. law, no foreign entity can own more than 25% of a U.S. airline, so there is no possibility that Qatar will be able to purchase enough of American to control or influence our Board, management or our strategy.
Of course, it may just be that Qatar Airways views American Airlines as a solid financial investment, because of the great work you all are doing every day. In that case, we would agree with them. Your results are earning the confidence of our customers and our shareholders every day, and it’s a privilege to work with and for all of you. Thank you for making American all it is and will be in the future.

[Abdullah71601]

Funny that he doesn't mention US government bankruptcy protections in his rant about subsidies. In Qatar and the GCC, you can't declare bankruptcy. You go to prison if you don't service your creditors.

That's the basis of the dispute between the ME3 and the US carriers. The ME3 do get subsidized, but the US carriers were all protected from their bad business decisions in bankruptcy, which is viewed in the ME as a government bail out.

I can't imagine why Qatar would want to be contaminated by the poor customer service approach that AA uses. It will be interesting to see what shakes out from this.

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

Here's a statement sent to me today

I couldn't post the letter cause size limits on the new and improved upload fix from computer option attachments


As you likely know by now, American recently received notice as part of the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act (a federal process governing large purchases of stock of publicly traded companies) that Qatar Airways has indicated its desire to make an investment in American Airlines.
American Airlines is a publicly traded company, which means our stock is available for anyone to purchase on the Nasdaq Stock Market. We don’t own those shares – they belong to the shareholders who own this company – and we cannot control who sells or purchases them. But this is an important development for American and one I wanted you to hear about from me directly.
While anyone can purchase our shares in the open market, we aren’t particularly excited about Qatar’s outreach, and we find it puzzling given our extremely public stance on the illegal subsidies that Qatar, Emirates and Etihad have all received over the years from their governments. We remain committed to that effort, and we will remain so even with this potential investment.


While today’s news for some of our team may be puzzling, at best, and concerning, at worst, here’s what we know for sure: We will not be discouraged or dissuaded from our full court press in Washington, D.C., to stand up to companies that are illegally subsidized by their governments. We stand for American Airlines, and we stand for all of you and the amazing work you do every day, around the globe, to take care of our customers.
If anything, this development strengthens our resolve to ensure the U.S. government enforces its trade agreements regarding fair competition with Gulf carriers, because we must make it crystal clear that no minority investment in American will ever dissuade us from doing what is right for our team members, our customers and all of our shareholders. And do not worry, per U.S. law, no foreign entity can own more than 25% of a U.S. airline, so there is no possibility that Qatar will be able to purchase enough of American to control or influence our Board, management or our strategy.
Of course, it may just be that Qatar Airways views American Airlines as a solid financial investment, because of the great work you all are doing every day. In that case, we would agree with them. Your results are earning the confidence of our customers and our shareholders every day, and it’s a privilege to work with and for all of you. Thank you for making American all it is and will be in the future.

[BLACKHORSE 6]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

When I was in Iraq in 2005 it was 148 F in the shade one day. I worked outside and drank 15 liters of water in six hours without needing to pee... that's just about warm enough.

I was in Iraq in 2006, and the heat was just oppressive. Baghdad was so humid it was depressing.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by BLACKHORSE 6

I was in Iraq in 2006, and the heat was just oppressive. Baghdad was so humid it was depressing.

I was in a convoy that was stopped in a vineyard near the Tigris due to an IED in the road ahead. The humidity was oppressive. It was so uncomfortable that I mused that no proper insurgent would be waiting in ambush there.

[Runnin' Rebel]

And in other news released by AA recently:

Last month we shared plans that our Boeing 737 MAX would arrive with three rows at 29-inch pitch. Since then, we have received a lot of feedback from both customers and team members, and after taking a fresh look at the interior of that plane, American has decided to space all Main Cabin rows with at least 30 inches of pitch.
It is clear that today, airline customers feel increasingly frustrated by their experiences and less valued when they fly. We can be leaders in helping to turn around that perception, and that includes reviewing decisions that have significant impact on the flying experience.

“Designing aircraft interiors is an art and a science. It requires us to take into account customer experience, revenue, and other considerations,” said ***** “We’ve reassessed what’s appropriate for the markets served by our new 737 MAX and have found a way to deliver a minimum of 30 inches of pitch for all Main Cabin rows. This is the right call for customers and the right call for our team members who take care of them.”
The MAX will still be configured with 172 seats. We found the space to eliminate the 29-inch rows by switching one Main Cabin Extra row to Main Cabin. As a reminder, our coach seats are the Meridian seat made by Rockwell Collins Interior Systems that is thinner, lighter and configured more comfortable than many of our older generation seats. These seats are designed to make efficient use of the space available and feel more spacious so a 30 inch pitch will feel more like today’s 31 inches.

We receive a total of **** MAXes beginning this fall.
As we’ve said before, we’re looking at the same configuration for our current 737-800 as well.
We’re confident that with this change, the MAX will be a great aircraft for both customers and team members, with large overhead bins, power at every seat and free streaming from a large library of movies and television shows. The MAX will also come with fast satellite-based Wi-Fi, allowing customers who choose to pay for it to have access to services such as Netflix and HBO.

*Redacted info

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel

And speaking of air planes Quatar airways is trying to buy a large block of AA and the board is a bit nervous. I think 5%, , but according to US law I think 25% is the maximum for foreign companies

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Not speaking about air planes Mark but.

How hot is too hot?