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BDL · 18 January 2017, 10:13 AM

Took a flyer that this is 100% legit. I would really appreciate feedback on if I got a good deal and the real deal.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/112272389078?_mwBanner=1

GLADIATOR · 18 January 2017, 07:47 PM

Looks good to me
z= 2006
Adam

Old Expat Beast · 18 January 2017, 08:12 PM

December 2007 is fine for a Z9 serial (forget about "z = 2006", no serial letter matches a single year), but the seller having no prior sales would worry me.

TimeToGo · 18 January 2017, 10:42 PM

Welcome to the Forum!
My only concern is that the seller has only 1 feedback but Paypal is your friend with this purchase..

BDL · 18 January 2017, 10:51 PM

PayPal is certainly my friend on this one. My first action when it comes in is to take it to my AD and have them check it out. That is something I have never done, can anyone that has, can you give me an idea what to expect? Should I offer to pay for the verification? Will they produce a letter or anything?

Thanks!! A Newbie as you can guess.

NKflyer · 18 January 2017, 11:14 PM

A " too good to be true" price from a new seller with just 2 feedbacks? Sorry, but this is a scam. The watch in the photos is certainly legit but the photos are probably stolen. The seller isn't going to ship you anything or maybe a rock if you're lucky! If you haven't paid yet, don't. If you have, you will eventually get your money back but it will probably take a couple weeks and some effort on your part. Good luck!

GLADIATOR · 18 January 2017, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKflyer

A " too good to be true" price from a new seller with just 2 feedbacks? Sorry, but this is a scam. The watch in the photos is certainly legit but the photos are probably stolen. The seller isn't going to ship you anything or maybe a rock if you're lucky! If you haven't paid yet, don't. If you have, you will eventually get your money back but it will probably take a couple weeks and some effort on your part. Good luck!

OP has already bought the item, I presume paid.
The watch to me looks genuine, it has papers, that we can easily verify if match the watch.

Id seller is a scam, the OP is protected via eBay, if he pays by PayPal

BDL · 19 January 2017, 01:46 AM

Would you call this a price to good to be true?

Chewbacca · 19 January 2017, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinjunthatcould

Would you call this a price to good to be true?

In·jun
ˈinjən/
nounUSdatedoffensive
an American Indian.

you bought it? well, you own it. just like your handle.

deal with it on the Bay.

TimeToGo · 19 January 2017, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinjunthatcould

Would you call this a price to good to be true?

Yes, Sir. It is indeed a trip back in time to buy a new old stock for that price..

SeaDweller50 · 19 January 2017, 05:03 PM

DO NOT PAY FOR THIS WATCH. 2 feedback. Alarm bells should be ringing.

I'm sure I've seen those photo's on ebay before on a prior sale.

BDL · 5 February 2017, 04:11 AM

After a long journey a box full of paper and nothing else showed up. Claim with PayPal filed. Seller not responding.

TimeToGo · 5 February 2017, 10:50 PM

Not a surprise..
Let us know how long PP takes on the refund.. Curious.

mtgjr · 7 March 2017, 04:49 AM

Did you ever get your money back?

JoeG74536 · 7 March 2017, 06:07 AM

New to all of this. Does Pay Pal refund money if the watch is bogus or something?

GLADIATOR · 7 March 2017, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeG74536

New to all of this. Does Pay Pal refund money if the watch is bogus or something?

Yes, they offer buyer protection, but there are some conditions - but overall its pretty good

mtgjr · 7 March 2017, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinjunthatcould

After a long journey a box full of paper and nothing else showed up. Claim with PayPal filed. Seller not responding.

If you sent the seller $5000 and he sent you a box full of paper, I think it's safe to assume he's not going to be responding.

I'd just like to know if you got your $ back from PayPal. It's been over a month now.

BDL · 7 March 2017, 10:53 PM

As of today (March 7) I have not gotten my money back, but to be clear I used Paypal Credit not a payment so it is an outstanding balance on my credit account that has yet to be cleared.

After a month of PayPal waiting on a response from the seller, I was contacted last Saturday by Paypal asking me to file a case with the iC3 (Internet Crime) which I did and sent PayPal a copy of. They have come back and said they are still reviewing, but I am growing thin on patience. I understand they have a protocol to follow, but it is time to resolve this. Once this is resolved, I will update.

77T · 7 March 2017, 11:19 PM

Good luck with your case. Once, ten years ago, a race shop scammed me on some reflashed ECUs - took payment but never delivered. eBay & PP credited me all the money left in the scammers account - about 75% of what I PayPal'd the guy.

Since you used credit card, have you alerted them that the transaction was fraudulent? Be sure to read your PP buyer protection terms carefully - sometimes these cases get tricky. For example, PP did not require me to file a police report...but that was before eBay sold PP.

henrylee · 16 March 2017, 01:09 AM

Wow eBay = devil

mtgjr · 18 March 2017, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theinjunthatcould

As of today (March 7) I have not gotten my money back, but to be clear I used Paypal Credit not a payment so it is an outstanding balance on my credit account that has yet to be cleared.

After a month of PayPal waiting on a response from the seller, I was contacted last Saturday by Paypal asking me to file a case with the iC3 (Internet Crime) which I did and sent PayPal a copy of. They have come back and said they are still reviewing, but I am growing thin on patience. I understand they have a protocol to follow, but it is time to resolve this. Once this is resolved, I will update.

Ten days since this last update. Anything new to report?

cwieb · 18 March 2017, 11:42 AM

Hope all is well

BDL · 21 April 2017, 11:58 PM

I finally received word this morning that PayPal has resolved this in my favor and credited me all the funds back. Good lesson learned. I got great advice from someone on this board that you should buy the seller, not the watch. True words.

Zoran · 8 May 2017, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDL

I finally received word this morning that PayPal has resolved this in my favor and credited me all the funds back. Good lesson learned. I got great advice from someone on this board that you should buy the seller, not the watch. True words.

Wow, that was a huge gamble with an almost predictable outcome!
I bet the hassle and headache of going trough an uncertain process with PP was quite stressful.
Glad you got your money back though...

jcatt · 22 October 2017, 05:06 AM

Glad this was resolved in your favor. Scary out there. Glad PP took care of you!
CATTMAN

hambone1983 · 22 October 2017, 05:17 PM

does he get to keep the box full of paper?

socalwatchcollector · 23 October 2017, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDL

As of today (March 7) I have not gotten my money back, but to be clear I used Paypal Credit not a payment so it is an outstanding balance on my credit account that has yet to be cleared.

After a month of PayPal waiting on a response from the seller, I was contacted last Saturday by Paypal asking me to file a case with the iC3 (Internet Crime) which I did and sent PayPal a copy of. They have come back and said they are still reviewing, but I am growing thin on patience. I understand they have a protocol to follow, but it is time to resolve this. Once this is resolved, I will update.

They take forever to do anything.. Just stay on them to get it resolved if it ever happens.. Best never to take the risk fellow members..

18 January 2017, 10:13 AM	#1
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	16710 Z on ebay Took a flyer that this is 100% legit. I would really appreciate feedback on if I got a good deal and the real deal. http://m.ebay.com/itm/112272389078?_mwBanner=1

18 January 2017, 07:47 PM	#2
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Looks good to me z= 2006 Adam __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

7 March 2017, 11:19 PM	#19
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,016	16710 Z on ebay Good luck with your case. Once, ten years ago, a race shop scammed me on some reflashed ECUs - took payment but never delivered. eBay & PP credited me all the money left in the scammers account - about 75% of what I PayPal'd the guy. Since you used credit card, have you alerted them that the transaction was fraudulent? Be sure to read your PP buyer protection terms carefully - sometimes these cases get tricky. For example, PP did not require me to file a police report...but that was before eBay sold PP. __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

16 March 2017, 01:09 AM	#20
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,223	Wow eBay = devil __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

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18 January 2017, 08:12 PM	#3
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	December 2007 is fine for a Z9 serial (forget about "z = 2006", no serial letter matches a single year), but the seller having no prior sales would worry me.

18 January 2017, 10:42 PM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Welcome to the Forum! My only concern is that the seller has only 1 feedback but Paypal is your friend with this purchase..

18 January 2017, 10:51 PM	#5
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	PayPal is certainly my friend on this one. My first action when it comes in is to take it to my AD and have them check it out. That is something I have never done, can anyone that has, can you give me an idea what to expect? Should I offer to pay for the verification? Will they produce a letter or anything? Thanks!! A Newbie as you can guess.

18 January 2017, 11:14 PM	#6
NKflyer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Richard Location: Colorado Posts: 2,858	A " too good to be true" price from a new seller with just 2 feedbacks? Sorry, but this is a scam. The watch in the photos is certainly legit but the photos are probably stolen. The seller isn't going to ship you anything or maybe a rock if you're lucky! If you haven't paid yet, don't. If you have, you will eventually get your money back but it will probably take a couple weeks and some effort on your part. Good luck!

19 January 2017, 01:46 AM	#8
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	Would you call this a price to good to be true?

19 January 2017, 05:03 PM	#11
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	DO NOT PAY FOR THIS WATCH. 2 feedback. Alarm bells should be ringing. I'm sure I've seen those photo's on ebay before on a prior sale.

5 February 2017, 04:11 AM	#12
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	After a long journey a box full of paper and nothing else showed up. Claim with PayPal filed. Seller not responding.

5 February 2017, 10:50 PM	#13
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,736	Not a surprise.. Let us know how long PP takes on the refund.. Curious.

7 March 2017, 04:49 AM	#14
mtgjr Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,926	Did you ever get your money back?

7 March 2017, 06:07 AM	#15
JoeG74536 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: North Carolina Posts: 181	New to all of this. Does Pay Pal refund money if the watch is bogus or something?

7 March 2017, 10:53 PM	#18
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	As of today (March 7) I have not gotten my money back, but to be clear I used Paypal Credit not a payment so it is an outstanding balance on my credit account that has yet to be cleared. After a month of PayPal waiting on a response from the seller, I was contacted last Saturday by Paypal asking me to file a case with the iC3 (Internet Crime) which I did and sent PayPal a copy of. They have come back and said they are still reviewing, but I am growing thin on patience. I understand they have a protocol to follow, but it is time to resolve this. Once this is resolved, I will update.

18 March 2017, 11:42 AM	#22
cwieb "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: U.S. Posts: 2,702	Hope all is well

21 April 2017, 11:58 PM	#23
BDL 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: @ticks_and_sticks Posts: 952	I finally received word this morning that PayPal has resolved this in my favor and credited me all the funds back. Good lesson learned. I got great advice from someone on this board that you should buy the seller, not the watch. True words.

22 October 2017, 05:06 AM	#25
jcatt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Lost, but on-time Posts: 267	Glad this was resolved in your favor. Scary out there. Glad PP took care of you! CATTMAN

22 October 2017, 05:17 PM	#26
hambone1983 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Rick Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,302	does he get to keep the box full of paper?

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