Opinions on GMT - 1977 Pepsi

[chazadams]

1675 with 9315 fold over braclet and 380 end links. 1540 movement recently serviced by Rolex.

Looking to wade into an older Rolex and wanted your opinions on this one. To me it looks beautiful and I really like the patina! Would love some input from the forum so I’m not going on my emotion only. Mods please move to vintage if this belongs there.









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[THC]

I know it is an old watch but those hands and end links look beat to death...

[Al1969]

You should move thread to the vintage forum. Not an expert, but looks like water made it inside the watch. What’s up with the corrosion on the hands?

[Thathorologist]

It has the service dial. I personally wouldn’t invest in it.

[chazadams]

Thank you gentlemen. Exactly the type of input I was looking for.

[jcatt]

Lume on hands does not match dial lume.
Also there are some oddities/ non perfect issues withe the bezel insert, but an aftermarket insert is no big deal, easily replaced if all else is well. What I see on the insert is that there are differing distances between the digits and the inner and/ or out edges of the insert. Could be fine, but I am used to everything Rolex being 100% perfect, and on this one I see inconsistencies. I could name them but it's probably not worthwhile, for, as I said, an aftermarket bezel, if that's what this is, is not necessarily a big deal, and is not a deal-breaker to most, and is certainly not the mark of a junker if that's the only issue. That said, the fact that the lume is different on the dial vs. hands is something of note.
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[springer]

Originally Posted by Thathorologist

It has the service dial. I personally wouldn’t invest in it.

It is not a service dial. It is a Mark IV dial and correct for a 1977 GMT.

The bezel insert is aftermarket as well as the crystal. I would not consider the bracelet correct either.

[Thathorologist]

Originally Posted by springer

It is not a service dial. It is a Mark IV dial and correct for a 1977 GMT.



The bezel insert is aftermarket as well as the crystal. I would not consider the bracelet correct either.

The stretch on oyster links look okay and appropriate but the clasp is definitely an aftermarket.
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[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by Thathorologist

The stretch on oyster links look okay and appropriate but the clasp is definitely an aftermarket.

The clasp looks like a perfectly fine 9315 clasp to me. It is even the correct year(C). It has everything that a 9315 clasp should have, holes all the way, indentations to hold the links at the end, no thumb recess, no lines on the fold over part. Even the blades are correct for the age with the missing "patented" on the first line.

[Thathorologist]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

The clasp looks like a perfectly fine 9315 clasp to me. It is even the correct year(C). It has everything that a 9315 clasp should have, holes all the way, indentations to hold the links at the end, no thumb recess, no lines on the fold over part. Even the blades are correct for the age with the missing "patented" on the first line.

The bracelet has too much stretch for a brand new Clasp like that.
The Clasp might be the right era and appropriate to the oyster links and end links but it has been changed at some point...

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Thathorologist

It has the service dial. I personally wouldn’t invest in it.

How you know its a "service" dial?

[Thathorologist]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

How you know its a "service" dial?

The dial is possibly an 80’s Service dial. It’s very neat and seems as if this dial has not been exposed to Natural elements whatsoever.
The Patina is very fresh and seems very new as if it’s 15-25 years old.

By looking at the facts; Bezel being aftermarket, crystal being aftermarket, clasp being too crisp and new and the Hands not matching the Dial, I would assume this watch has gone to RSC at least once and other Watchmakers have laid their hands on it for more than twice.
Again this is my opinion based on my own information and my way of analyzing the facts.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Thathorologist

The dial is possibly an 80’s Service dial. It’s very neat and seems as if this dial has not been exposed to Natural elements whatsoever.
The Patina is very fresh and seems very new as if it’s 15-25 years old.

By looking at the facts; Bezel being aftermarket, crystal being aftermarket, clasp being too crisp and new and the Hands not matching the Dial, I would assume this watch has gone to RSC at least once and other Watchmakers have laid their hands on it for more than twice.
Again this is my opinion based on my own information and my way of analyzing the facts.

Ah! OK, not as definitive as this!

It has the service dial. I personally wouldn’t invest in it.

Its not a defactu fact?

[springer]

Originally Posted by chazadams

Thank you gentlemen. Exactly the type of input I was looking for.

By the way, the clasp is original for a 9315 Oyster flip-lock bracelet. The clasp is not fake or incorrect as someone else posted.