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perryj · 29 April 2018, 11:13 AM

I wonder what Rolex Geneva’s response would be if they suddenly received 100-200 letters (not emails) from us regarding their new tactics (some ads requiring purchase of non wanted pieces to get on “the list “)? I’m curious as to what their response would be? I’ll write one who else is in?

Bt122 · 29 April 2018, 11:15 AM

goog53 · 29 April 2018, 11:17 AM

They’d probably respond and ask why you sold all your Rolexes LOL!

perryj · 29 April 2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

They’d probably respond and ask why you sold all your Rolexes LOL!

Bawahaha that’s good! Touché! Haven’t sold ALL, yet.

I’m just curious as to what they would say

DLRIDES · 29 April 2018, 11:21 AM

Not any fault of Rolex ..................... send a letter to all the sheeples that feed the madness.

chad362wiley · 29 April 2018, 11:31 AM

Unpopular opinion, but I appreciate their “tactics” as I would rather have to hunt for a piece and have it retain its value than be able to walk in and buy it on the spot for a discount. It just makes it all the more special. :)

perryj · 29 April 2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chad362wiley

Unpopular opinion, but I appreciate their “tactics” as I would rather have to hunt for a piece and have it retain its value than be able to walk in and buy it on the spot for a discount. It just makes it all the more special. :)

I agree, but having to hunt is different than being forced to buy something you don’t want first, I don’t mind waiting a few months or even a year. But many years is just ridiculous. But if you look historically which watch didn’t retain value over time when you could walk in and buy one?

goog53 · 29 April 2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by perryj

Bawahaha that’s good! Touché! Haven’t sold ALL, yet.
I’m just curious as to what they would say

I’m glad you could let me bust your balls a little bit

We have all bought and sold so I am not judging You my friend. Rolex is always very secretive and answers to no one so we just have to shut up and take it but they make a damn nice product so it is tough to hate on them. The Daytona should be 15K and GMTs and Subs 11K so I think we are pretty lucky.

Etschell · 29 April 2018, 11:47 AM

nah I'll just buy other brands or from non ads. let my wallet do the talking.

codecow · 29 April 2018, 11:50 AM

My letter would say:

Dear Rolex,

Please make your SS Professional models less available Im seeing them everywhere.

Your friend,
Louis

chad362wiley · 29 April 2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by perryj

I agree, but having to hunt is different than being forced to buy something you don’t want first, I don’t mind waiting a few months or even a year. But many years is just ridiculous. But if you look historically which watch didn’t retain value over time when you could walk in and buy one?

Yea youre right on the AD tactics for "building the relationship". My green sub was apparently used in a leverage deal with two PM pieces before the guy backed out.

Value retention has always been there youre right again. Idk, I am more just enamored with how crazy this watch market is right now.

fishingbear · 29 April 2018, 11:55 AM

They would yawn and then go grab lunch.

10klakes · 29 April 2018, 11:58 AM

I’ve never been forced to buy pieces I don’t want, in order to get the pieces I want. Where I live I have more than one AD to work with, therefore I can work with the one that treats me well.

Vote with your dollar(s). That is the only way long term to build a relationship AND not reward the dealer(s) for these tactics.

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WhiskeyKoffee · 29 April 2018, 12:02 PM

The "buy something you don't want to get on a list" thing is beyond ridiculous to me. The chances of me ever, EVER doing that is exactly 0.00%.

But who writes letters these days?

AK797 · 29 April 2018, 12:26 PM

It's not really their tactics, it is overwhelming global demand that is the issue, and Rolex's reaction, whatever it is, makes hardly any difference in this tidal wave.

Tools · 29 April 2018, 01:33 PM

Rolex doesn't have anything to do with how you get on a Dealers list, or if they even have a list.

avega357 · 29 April 2018, 02:18 PM

Look the tactic is despicable, but if you have no relationship and walk off the street and ask for a Daytona that you can flip for 10k next day why should they react differently

indigo993 · 29 April 2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by avega357

look the tactic is despicable, but if you have no relationship and walk off the street and ask for a daytona that you can flip for 10k next day why should they react differently

+1

EdwardC · 29 April 2018, 02:30 PM

I don't think they will care.

springbar · 29 April 2018, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

It's not really their tactics, it is overwhelming global demand that is the issue, and Rolex's reaction, whatever it is, makes hardly any difference in this tidal wave.

How do you know that?

Krash · 29 April 2018, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

It's not really their tactics, it is overwhelming global demand that is the issue, and Rolex's reaction, whatever it is, makes hardly any difference in this tidal wave.

Yep. Business 101. Supply vs demand.

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116710er · 29 April 2018, 08:00 PM

Rolex gives exactly ZERO F's. If we rounded up, still ZERO.

Syfret · 29 April 2018, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chad362wiley

Unpopular opinion, but I appreciate their “tactics” as I would rather have to hunt for a piece and have it retain its value than be able to walk in and buy it on the spot for a discount. It just makes it all the more special. :)

Agree with this 100%

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dmash · 29 April 2018, 08:35 PM

Shouldn’t the name of this thread be:

‘Let’s all waste our time.’

Why don’t you divide 200 by 800,000 (just their estimated production numbers in one year) and ask yourself if they would care about that? You’re not even talking about ONE TENTH of 1% encountering complaints. And that’s just for ONE year.

but sure, carry on.

tyler1980 · 29 April 2018, 09:40 PM

If you are writing a letter then it means you must really, really want a watch.

Mission accomplished Rolex

tyler1980 · 29 April 2018, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by goog53

They’d probably respond and ask why you sold all your Rolexes LOL!

el-heffe · 29 April 2018, 09:45 PM

Find a different AD. It's that simple. I don't deal with the two closest to me because of similar tactics.

037 · 29 April 2018, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 116710er

Rolex gives exactly ZERO F's. If we rounded up, still ZERO.

I love a good math joke.

Roy_D · 29 April 2018, 10:06 PM

Earlier this year I almost foolishly walked out of an AD with two Tudor pieces that I didn’t really have an interest in, all for the privilege on getting on “the list”. On reflection my sentiments regarding the current practice would not be anything I’d be comfortable putting to paper!

pickettt · 29 April 2018, 10:45 PM

"They don't read OUR mail." -Richard Pryor

29 April 2018, 11:13 AM	#1
perryj "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Watch: Rolex, Swatch Posts: 952	Let’s all write a letter. I wonder what Rolex Geneva’s response would be if they suddenly received 100-200 letters (not emails) from us regarding their new tactics (some ads requiring purchase of non wanted pieces to get on “the list “)? I’m curious as to what their response would be? I’ll write one who else is in? __________________ Rolex Datejust 16200 current Rolex Ceramic Submariner Date sold Rolex Submariner 14060 sold Rolex Explorer I and II both sold Rolex Datejust 16233 and 16234 sold

29 April 2018, 11:17 AM	#3
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,076	They’d probably respond and ask why you sold all your Rolexes LOL! __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

29 April 2018, 11:21 AM	#5
DLRIDES 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Don Location: NC/WY Watch: Me Posts: 4,676	Not any fault of Rolex ..................... send a letter to all the sheeples that feed the madness. __________________ *Purchasing your first non HOA home on a 3 acre lot DOES NOT equate to owning a “farm”.*

29 April 2018, 11:31 AM	#6
chad362wiley "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: N/A Posts: 1,218	Unpopular opinion, but I appreciate their “tactics” as I would rather have to hunt for a piece and have it retain its value than be able to walk in and buy it on the spot for a discount. It just makes it all the more special. :) __________________ 116506

29 April 2018, 11:47 AM	#9
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	nah I'll just buy other brands or from non ads. let my wallet do the talking. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

29 April 2018, 11:15 AM	#2
Bt122 Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Bi coastal Watch: Ok...Watching Posts: 937

29 April 2018, 11:50 AM	#10
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,196	My letter would say: Dear Rolex, Please make your SS Professional models less available Im seeing them everywhere. Your friend, Louis

29 April 2018, 11:55 AM	#12
fishingbear 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: George Location: Alabama Watch: GMTsSubLVEx2SDDayt Posts: 4,549	They would yawn and then go grab lunch.

29 April 2018, 11:58 AM	#13
10klakes "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: USA Watch: Collector Posts: 1,482	I’ve never been forced to buy pieces I don’t want, in order to get the pieces I want. Where I live I have more than one AD to work with, therefore I can work with the one that treats me well. Vote with your dollar(s). That is the only way long term to build a relationship AND not reward the dealer(s) for these tactics. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 April 2018, 12:02 PM	#14
WhiskeyKoffee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Mike Location: Georgia Watch: Hulk 116610LV Posts: 385	The "buy something you don't want to get on a list" thing is beyond ridiculous to me. The chances of me ever, EVER doing that is exactly 0.00%. But who writes letters these days? __________________ 116610LV, Hulk, March/2018 126655, November/2022 Next/Last 126600

29 April 2018, 12:26 PM	#15
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	It's not really their tactics, it is overwhelming global demand that is the issue, and Rolex's reaction, whatever it is, makes hardly any difference in this tidal wave.

29 April 2018, 01:33 PM	#16
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,515	Rolex doesn't have anything to do with how you get on a Dealers list, or if they even have a list. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

29 April 2018, 02:18 PM	#17
avega357 Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Miami Watch: Rolex GMT's BLNR Posts: 797	Look the tactic is despicable, but if you have no relationship and walk off the street and ask for a Daytona that you can flip for 10k next day why should they react differently

29 April 2018, 02:30 PM	#19
EdwardC 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Pacific Posts: 3,603	I don't think they will care.

29 April 2018, 08:00 PM	#22
116710er "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: 'murica Watch: yer six. Posts: 576	Rolex gives exactly ZERO F's. If we rounded up, still ZERO.

29 April 2018, 08:35 PM	#24
dmash Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 6,160	Shouldn’t the name of this thread be: ‘Let’s all waste our time.’ Why don’t you divide 200 by 800,000 (just their estimated production numbers in one year) and ask yourself if they would care about that? You’re not even talking about ONE TENTH of 1% encountering complaints. And that’s just for ONE year. but sure, carry on.

29 April 2018, 09:40 PM	#25
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	If you are writing a letter then it means you must really, really want a watch. Mission accomplished Rolex __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

29 April 2018, 09:45 PM	#27
el-heffe "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Ken Location: USA Posts: 241	Find a different AD. It's that simple. I don't deal with the two closest to me because of similar tactics.

29 April 2018, 10:06 PM	#29
Roy_D "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Australia Watch: Z-Blue Milgauss Posts: 82	Earlier this year I almost foolishly walked out of an AD with two Tudor pieces that I didn’t really have an interest in, all for the privilege on getting on “the list”. On reflection my sentiments regarding the current practice would not be anything I’d be comfortable putting to paper!

29 April 2018, 10:45 PM	#30
pickettt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: California Watch: Shiny One Posts: 5,450	"They don't read OUR mail." -Richard Pryor

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