New Kanye and Lil Wayne albums coming out this week

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I guess we'll never know what that wrong turn is. You're still posting in the thread, so I presume the road is still straight.

All is good. On to the next....


The state of Hip Hop today:
A few weeks ago, Maroon 5's "A Girl Like You" comes on the radio. After Cardi B's.....interlude finishes, my 5 year old son says to me, "Dad, that was all nonsense, right?"

When a five year-old has got your number, it's time to change your formula.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Yandhi

Which album will you be downloading first?

neither. Maybe im old, but i don't get hip hop music anymore. Ill just buy Dr Dre the chronic again instead

[s2h904]

I prefer trap music-I can say with 95% certainty I am in the minority(except for Mark Martin-NASCAR)

[brabusbrad]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

His old stuff is good, but he has become pretty weird.

The MGK diss track was hilarious.

MGK's rap devil was pretty good, but the rest of his stuff is just meh. Eminem's response was pretty awesome considering he had a lot less time to prep for it than MGK did with rap devil.

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by pickettt

I’m not going to chime in on the “rap and hip hop are hot music” because I believe that argument to be rooted in something else. But I recently had the opportunity to see Rakim (arguably the best ever), and it just reminded me that we are missing something in rap and hip hop today.

Come on - with all due respect, you are being disingenuous. You said you're not going to chime in, and then you do. You're making the veiled racist accusation. Please be careful in overgeneralizing to an audience you might not completely understand.

I will agree with you there is some racism in the myopic views of a few people regarding rap and its right to exist. But please don't assume everyone who criticizes a form of entertainment that you do is racist. I said earlier I am judging it based on its low level of creative musicianship. A lot of people who say that rap is not music are saying what I'm saying - that they cannot feel the musicality in it. They're not delegitimizing it as an art form. They are just being critics.

I said clearly in my post that I'm a musician. I've been a musician for 30 years. I look for quality, creative musicianship in the songs I like, which is why I love Funk and old R&B. The Isley Brothers, The Dazz Band, Stanley Jordan, The Brothers Johnson, etc. Even disco usually had a good, musical beat to it, which is what I look for in music.

I listened to NWA when they first came out, and I was a big fan. I know what it was, why it was created, and why it has power. Rage Against The Machine is another favorite. However, I could never listen to just rap, because I need so much more to move me musically. and with today's commercialized, soulless rap, I don't find anything to attract me to it.

[Wesley Crusher]

Originally Posted by Doc Savage

and with today's commercialized, soulless rap, I don't find anything to attract me to it.

FWIW, your comments can be applied to the current music industry as a whole. Rap, rock, pop, etc... is mostly nonsense these days. Artists don’t write their own music, lyrics are empty, and the main focus is a catchy beat. Songs are propular for a month or two and then it’s on to the next one. It’s a formula that most seem to follow.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

FWIW, your comments can be applied to the current music industry as a whole. Rap, rock, pop, etc... is mostly nonsense these days. Artists don’t write their own music, lyrics are empty, and the main focus is a catchy beat. Songs are propular for a month or two and then it’s on to the next one. It’s a formula that most seem to follow.

Relax to a little Sam Smith Wes. It'll be alright.

[smym18]

I don't particularly care for Kanye as a person, but I like his shoes, and a decent amount of his music.

Listened to half of the Carter V and so far it's pretty good.

[WristEnvy]

I grew up in the 80s and high school in the 90s. I prefer gangster rap.

Originally Posted by mecamylamine

In spite of Kanye’s assholish antics for the past 15 years, I really think a lot of you are underselling his influence on rap and pop culture at whole. This is the guy that killed gangster rap as we know it for gods sake. He made it ok to have emotions and introspection in mainstream rap - none of the modern greats would exist in their current form without it. I probably won’t pick up either of these albums (I’m all Kanye’d our from this surgical summer), but both Wayne and Kanye are icons.


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[Star Ferry]

Kanye west is a talented musician even if his personality tends toward the erratic

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Kanye west is a talented musician even if his personality tends toward the erratic

Really? A talented musician? Remind me what instrument he can play. None? Ok, you must mean he is a great singer, right? No?

This is why people say rappers aren't musicians. Because they can't make anything musical. It's laughable to hear a guy like Kanye described as a musician. It's like calling a pro bowler an athlete.

Artist? Sure. Cultural influencer? Absolutely. Just not a musician.

Talking over somebody else's anemic bass line and canned drum track might be entertaining and enjoyable for some people, but it doesn't come close to being music. There's nothing wrong with enjoying it. I like some classic rap. I just don't limit myself by pretending it is music and ignoring the wide world of actual music that is out there to enjoy.

Originally Posted by Wesley Crusher

FWIW, your comments can be applied to the current music industry as a whole. Rap, rock, pop, etc... is mostly nonsense these days. Artists don’t write their own music, lyrics are empty, and the main focus is a catchy beat. Songs are propular for a month or two and then it’s on to the next one. It’s a formula that most seem to follow.

Agreed. It's widespread.

[Wesley Crusher]

Kanye dressed up as a Perrier bottle. He looks like he is having a great time lmao

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by mecamylamine

...He made it ok to have emotions and introspection in mainstream rap - none of the modern greats would exist in their current form without it. I probably won’t pick up either of these albums (I’m all Kanye’d our from this surgical summer), but both Wayne and Kanye are icons.
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Emotions and introspection were introduced in mainstream rap loooooonnnggg before Kanye. Iconic? Don't make me laugh. Making noise is not making music.

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by Star Ferry

Kanye west is a talented musician even if his personality tends toward the erratic

[watchwatcher]

I only download albums that I would want to listen to.

And, for either of those, I'm gonna say, HARD PASS.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by Doc Savage

Really? A talented musician? Remind me what instrument he can play. None? Ok, you must mean he is a great singer, right? No?

This is why people say rappers aren't musicians. Because they can't make anything musical. It's laughable to hear a guy like Kanye described as a musician. It's like calling a pro bowler an athlete.

Even in a rap thread, bowlers get no love

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

Even in a rap thread, bowlers get no love

Pete Weber has something to say about that. I could have posted the gif but really the video needs to be seen for full entertainment effect.

https://youtu.be/gKQOXYB2cd8

[Headshrinker]

A friend was watching TMZ and asked me to tune in and assess my thoughts on a rapper named Kanye West. Although I am not familiar with his music, he appeared to show strong narcissistic tendencies, that may or may not be caused by a personality disorder. I thought it was sad how the interviewer gave him so much time and freedom to rant incoherently, just because he is famous. These are sad times....

[mannyv11]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

Even in a rap thread, bowlers get no love

best comment in this thread lol

[Thug]

Originally Posted by Headshrinker

A friend was watching TMZ and asked me to tune in and assess my thoughts on a rapper named Kanye West. Although I am not familiar with his music, he appeared to show strong narcissistic tendencies, that may or may not be caused by a personality disorder. I thought it was sad how the interviewer gave him so much time and freedom to rant incoherently, just because he is famous. These are sad times....

Sad times? TMZ was made to follow celebs. This is the equivalent of turning to Fox and wondering why they’re not more liberal.

[GB-man]

Kanye west's arc reminds me of DMX. Except one drinks and the other smokes crack. First few albums were fire and then they went off the deep end. We soon realized in both cases they were crazy all along.

Only difference is they aren't giving DMX performances on SNL anymore lol

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Only difference is they aren't giving DMX performances on SNL anymore lol

What do you expect when you expose “The Industry.” DMX may be crazy, but he is informed and no sell out. They made DMX, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, and others out to be crazy.......but all of those guys are telling the same story.

[BNA/LION]

I'm gonna have to pass on buying either.

[SG56]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzNXfsJRijg

[Wesley Crusher]

Larry is banned too? What the heck is going on?

[Valenciawatchrepair]

Originally Posted by pickettt

With all due respect, when I see a wrong turn coming, I try not to take it.

Implying that one is racist for not liking a song, genre, or artist?

There's so much music out there. Even music you haven't even heard or I haven't heard. We'll all be dead before we hear it all. So, why bring that crap into the mix of it all. Did anyone here even say or imply that anyway?