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Old 9 March 2019, 12:11 PM   #1
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If you had a choice for a job which would u choose

Just curious...

Assuming you have retirement money saved up....which would job would you choose...

A lower paying job that would give you a better work life balance and lower stress level and is more of a 8-5 job. The money will more than cover your expenses but that would be a next phase towards stepping down your career towards retirement which is 20 plus years away...

OR

A potentially much higher paying job that you may or may not be fired from every 3 years. No stability but have a potential to get 2-4x more than the above job. Not guaranteed but directionaly set you up to make a few mil per year for a year or 2? Not guaranteed. Oh and youd likely work 6-7days per week



Which would you choose?
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Old 9 March 2019, 12:37 PM   #2
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I choose option 3: become a Rolex watch maker so I can make myself a skydweller / ss Daytona lol

Depends what stage you are in life. Bottom one sounds more “exciting” you can always go back to the 9-5
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Old 9 March 2019, 12:57 PM   #3
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Old 9 March 2019, 01:02 PM   #4
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It all depends on your mind set. I'm a civil servant so I guess I fall in the #1 bracket. I have friends that fall in the #2 set and I cannot understand how they don't go insane with all the insecurity with their chosen employment.

Losing their jobs or closing down their business is like getting a new car. They are so confident that they will find something else or open a new store. No fear, god bless them. I would be on my fourth heart attack.

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Choice number one for me given both options. I’m allergic to stress...
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Old 9 March 2019, 01:44 PM   #6
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# 1. I would work in a coffee shop by the beach.
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Old 9 March 2019, 01:49 PM   #7
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Assuming retirement money is already saved up, I would not want job #2 to kill me before retirement, so I'd go with #1.
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Old 9 March 2019, 01:53 PM   #8
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Assuming this is a question on future direction- I would ask yourself what motivates you.

Ignore the money-

What challenges you? What do find enjoyment doing? Where do you see yourself in 10 years?
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Old 9 March 2019, 02:01 PM   #9
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Not guaranteed but directionaly set you up to make a few mil per year for a year or 2? Not guaranteed. Oh and youd likely work 6-7days per week
You're comparing a job to a specialty. There are no "jobs" where you make a few million per year. That income stream requires a specialty.

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Old 9 March 2019, 08:52 PM   #10
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Well, if you have enough money, why would you even consider option 2?

Given your criteria, I would chose something I truly enjoy doing ...
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Old 9 March 2019, 09:00 PM   #11
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Just curious...

Assuming you have retirement money saved up....which would job would you choose...



Which would you choose?
neither... no job


I have too many outside interests and a job is a job, nothing more. I would scrub toilets for a living if i got paid enough as no job is "enjoyable" to me. Its means to an end, nothing more.

Maybe its because i grew up in a family where their jobs were their entire identities. It was all consuming. Now their are retired, bored stupid, and never developed a single outside interest or hobby. without the job, they have no idea who they are.

retire when you can, not at a pre determined age is my philosophy.
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Old 9 March 2019, 09:09 PM   #12
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neither... no job


I have too many outside interests and a job is a job, nothing more. I would scrub toilets for a living if i got paid enough as no job is "enjoyable" to me. Its means to an end, nothing more.

Maybe its because i grew up in a family where their jobs were their entire identities. It was all consuming. Now their are retired, bored stupid, and never developed a single outside interest or hobby. without the job, they have no idea who they are.

retire when you can, not at a pre determined age is my philosophy.
I would choose 1.... If you have enough financial security build up allready, why would you choose for stress? But you might be a adrenaline-junk and than you should choose 2
I recommend you to start working in 1 a gasstation or 2 a teahouse in the middle of nowhere, +-3 customers a day thats basicly enough to keep you infiltrated in humanity

Unfortunatly i do not have a job, i do not need to work but it is no fun at all.. I do have the money to ''live'' but i just can't find the right attitude to do so
I must learn from Tyler i guess
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Old 9 March 2019, 09:12 PM   #13
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I would choose 1.... If you have enough financial security build up allready, why would you choose for stress? But you might be a adrenaline-junk and than you should choose 2
I recommend you to start working in 1 a gasstation or 2 a teahouse in the middle of nowhere, +-3 customers a day thats basicly enough to keep you infiltrated in humanity

Unfortunatly i do not have a job, i do not need to work but it is no fun at all.. I do have the money to ''live'' but i just can't find the right attitude to do so
I must learn from Tyler i guess
my wife is the opposite weirdly enough. She gets actual satisfaction out of work, i dont. I do think it depends on how you view working. I get more satisfaction out of everything else.

I just think for me, retirement is best as soon as possible rather than waiting until reaching an appropriate age as then i would be working for no point assuming retirement savings was already completed. I would rather not do something just to do it, or because its what you are supposed to do according to everyone else.
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Old 9 March 2019, 09:20 PM   #14
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my wife is the opposite weirdly enough. She gets actual satisfaction out of work, i dont. I do think it depends on how you view working. I get more satisfaction out of everything else.

I just think for me, retirement is best as soon as possible rather than waiting until reaching an appropriate age as then i would be working for no point assuming retirement savings was already completed. I would rather not do something just to do it, or because its what you are supposed to do according to everyone else.
Well that is a factor my friend… The way people view you when you don't do anything at a young age is really terrible... What kind of job do you do now??
I do believe btw that people hates you when you don't work because they hate their work and also want to quit.
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Old 9 March 2019, 10:30 PM   #15
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In my 20s when I was a bit of a city boy yuppie I would have gone for option 2, now I would take option 1 altho a 9-5 no way an 8 start, and preferably a 4 finish, and half day Fridays and...
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Old 9 March 2019, 10:47 PM   #16
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. . . "job that would give you a better work life balance and lower stress level" . . . . .

Materialism can be wonderful, but I'll go with what's behind door #1
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Old 9 March 2019, 10:49 PM   #17
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Option 2 has Wall Street written all over it. I would do Option 2 and go for F-U money. I suppose here we would call it Minute Repeater money. The stress of losing the job every three years should be less, uh, stressful if you are already financially independent.

We left our jobs at 40, and I disagree with the idea stated above that people look at you funny. It is a good incentive to make sure you have lots of interests though. Also, if you are male and leave work at a young age, you need to be able to entertain yourself to some extent during the day. There may not be many friends around during the day at that age.

I would prefer to do meaningful volunteer work rather than to take a low paying, easy, but likely unfulfilling and/or unchallenging job. Which is the way I am interpreting Option 1. I understand that may or may not be true, but that is the way I am filling in the blanks.
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Old 9 March 2019, 10:56 PM   #18
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Option 2 has Wall Street written all over it. I would do Option 2 and go for F-U money. I suppose here we would call it Minute Repeater money. The stress of losing the job every three years should be less, uh, stressful if you are already financially independent.

We left our jobs at 40, and I disagree with the idea stated above that people look at you funny. It is a good incentive to make sure you have lots of interests though. Also, if you are male and leave work at a young age, you need to be able to entertain yourself to some extent during the day. There may not be many friends around during the day at that age.

I would prefer to do meaningful volunteer work rather than to take a low paying, easy, but likely unfulfilling and/or unchallenging job. Which is the way I am interpreting Option 1. I understand that may or may not be true, but that is the way I am filling in the blanks.
Yes that is,

If you are real young and have not builded any sort of big financial security yet i would also go for option 1 and do it as long as possible and save as many as possible..
40 and retired is great i think? How do you get through yours days if i may ask?? I am 28 but i find it very difficult to find a proper way of entertaining.. I train in my house a few times a week, i have a own fitness-center build in here and i live in a very beautifull street where a lot of guys like you live But i see that they, they are indeed also not needed to work and have a few very expensive cars and a big house but they basicly sit out their full time on a garden chair without a shirt on Is this the meaning of life? Don't get me wrong, i am by far not so wealthy as those individuals in the Streets or on this forum here, but i have enough money to survive buy a Rolex ocassionaly and do my ''thing'' sort of... But when i decide to buy a luxury car and fly on the 1st class to the USA for a holliday of 6 months i am going through my money very fast) So i am, also saving and saving every month..
This is also where i can differ from Tyler most likely, our lifes are most likely much different in wealth. I can sit in the sun on my chair and if i really wanted to and gone on budget i could make every month a small trip or every 2 months a holliday but than i can't save anymore which is basicly very important to me... So my guess is that it is depending on how much net worth you builded :) And what sort of life you can have without a job..
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Old 9 March 2019, 11:08 PM   #19
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My gut tells me option 1. Ive been thinking about retirement and given my concerns around healthcare Ive been debating the path to retirement is to gradually step down the intensity level of the career. In option 1 i would still see all my friends that ive made these 20 years. And i would see my family and go on vacations. Still buy rolex and pateks.



Option 1 is a great job pay is still very good. Directionslly probably towards 400-500 over time.

Option 2 - the money is ridiculous...i worry im leaving too much money on the table if I walk away. Then i think about No vacations with the family poor quality of life. But i have the capacity to do 1-2 mil per year. Barely see the family.


My daughter said to me option 1 when I told her how much I would have to work. She looked up and said. “Daddy, if we dont need the moeny why dont you do the easier job”

I am tilted towards 1 just hate having regrets.
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Old 9 March 2019, 11:16 PM   #20
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If I was a young person and had the potential to make a lot of money as described in option 2 that is where I would go. Burn out, don't rust out. If I was older I would go with option 1.
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Retirement money in place it would have to be something I truley loved doing


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Old 10 March 2019, 12:09 AM   #22
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I had a somewhat similar situation except that job 1 was in a city we liked and job 2 (and 3 and 4) were in less desirable cities in our opinion. I chose number. No regrets whatsoever and would do it again in a heartbeat.
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Putting rich peoples money to work helping those most in need.
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But in my honest opinion, with exception the real dirty rich people that can affort literally everything and have millions and millions and more everyone can have at least the situation to be not in ''need'' i mean, nobody in this world in our western world needs to be extremely poor, they just need to sacrifice on certain ''objects'' thats the key for them. So putting money towards them won't help, you need to educate them and they need to ''want'' to learn to get along normal with their own money
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I find work intensely satisfying. And I’m driven by a certain need to find contentment through accomplishment and success. Some of that is defined by how secure I am financially.

I do find most of my days ridiculously stressful. But that’s because I’m worried about money. Once I no longer need to worry about money, I don’t think I’d find life to stressful at all.

That being that, I’d chose option 1. But luckily I’m very happy with what I’m currently doing. And even if it changes in the near future, it’ll be similar enough that I’ll essehtially be in the same position.

So I still stick with option 1.
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Let me just say that there is something to be said about job security, although the current job market requires extreme flexibility and agility. The old adage, "find a good company and stay with it" doesn't hold much water anymore.

There are also plenty of high risk jobs out there that promise the moon for those who are willing to work themselves to death at the expense of every other aspect of their lives, including family.
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Let me just say that there is something to be said about job security, although the current job market requires extreme flexibility and agility. The old adage, "find a good company and stay with it" doesn't hold much water anymore.

There are also plenty of high risk jobs out there that promise the moon for those who are willing to work themselves to death at the expense of every other aspect their lives, including family.
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You're comparing a job to a specialty. There are no "jobs" where you make a few million per year. That income stream requires a specialty.

Your best years are ahead of you until you hit 90 or so - keep calm and carry on...
Both jobs are in the same industry. But differnt sides of the table. Option 1 has no skin in the game. Option 2 has skin in the game.

Separately i have a side business that doesnt require my time hence the retirement funds comment.
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I’d chose #1 but only 4hrs a day/3 days max. And soon(fingers crossed) that will be my reality.
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