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Bisquitlips · 17 January 2009, 03:14 PM

Open the case and look inside!

This should be the standard acid test to determine reality when purchasing any Rolex.

Any Rolex can and will be faked on the outside, but the innards cannot be faked.

Dalton · 17 January 2009, 05:57 PM

it's looks very real to me and probably has an aftermarket crystal. Everything else looks authentic

Dalton · 17 January 2009, 05:59 PM

it's real.

ArizonaHD · 17 January 2009, 08:39 PM

It looks right hands, dial texture, font hands are right length, band, as Dalton stated crystal is incorrect, crown looks suspect you got a side view?. Google the Serial Number, most fake numbers will pop up right away

Tony-GB · 17 January 2009, 09:00 PM

Might be the lighting, but the red second hand looks a little light to me, but it might be the lighting. Get it checked if you have any doubts. Weigh it & tell us what it is in grams. JJ will know instantly what it should weigh (if it has all the bracelet links).

I hope it all works out for you.

nhdblfan · 17 January 2009, 10:32 PM

Whos is the dealer?Did he have box and papers? When shopping used.grey buy the dealer first,then the watch.
As others have said go have the back opened up and then you can tell.Only way to know for sure

WatchSmith · 17 January 2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhdblfan

Whos is the dealer?Did he have box and papers?

The replica makers also fake the boxes, papers, and everything else.

nhdblfan · 18 January 2009, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triplock

The replica makers also fake the boxes, papers, and everything else.

I am aware of that but it would also give us more to check out.The papers may have a AD name on them as well,if real of course, and you can check with them to see if they sold it.

hflee55 · 17 January 2009, 10:56 PM

Hi Mike,

Best to have it evaluated by professionals. Good Luck!

Lol-x · 17 January 2009, 11:43 PM

I think it looks O.K. with those further photos you have provided.
As Dalton points out the only issue may be that an aftermarket crystal has been used.

Anyway congrats

2th Dr · 18 January 2009, 12:59 AM

In doing a side-by-side comparison with your pics and my actual YM, everything looks ligit. Mine's a late 2005 TT, so I don't know if there would or should be any differences between the two. As you said though, the date appears to be a little small. Keep in mind 2 things: The size will appear to change depending on what angle you look at it, and the date on my YM, at least to me, seems slightly smaller than the date on my two DJs. I wonder myself if there is a difference in distance between the actual dials of the YM and DJ and the crystals. That would most certainly make a difference in the "size" of the date.

mike1983 · 18 January 2009, 02:09 AM

I am so relieved, just got back from my watchmaker. Everything is legit. He wasn't able to tell me anything about the size of the date because he had never really paid close attention to the differences (why would he, he is looking right at the movement so he knows if a watch is real or not). He did say that the crystal is original, and everything was in excellent condition, that someone had just recently prepared the watch for sale, so no overhaul or anything needed.

Interesting the last poster said he noticed that is 2005 YM date seemed smaller than his DJ watches, hmmm......

I think I will start a survey to get the final word on this one.

Dalton · 18 January 2009, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2th DR

In doing a side-by-side comparison with your pics and my actual YM, everything looks ligit. Mine's a late 2005 TT, so I don't know if there would or should be any differences between the two. As you said though, the date appears to be a little small. Keep in mind 2 things: The size will appear to change depending on what angle you look at it, and the date on my YM, at least to me, seems slightly smaller than the date on my two DJs. I wonder myself if there is a difference in distance between the actual dials of the YM and DJ and the crystals. That would most certainly make a difference in the "size" of the date.

What should be very obvious is, the date window should fill the cyclops perfectly, with almost no spaces around the edges. Forget size ccomparison with a DJ because surely the crystal is aftermarket. Make sure the date fits the cyclops. if the crystal is aftermarket it can be replaced.

johndoe33131 · 18 January 2009, 02:24 AM

Eagerly waiting to hear what the AD says...

Rolexitis · 18 January 2009, 07:17 AM

It's authentic

mike1983 · 18 January 2009, 02:18 PM

trying to update but my posts are getting caught up in the moderators. The watch is legit, I tried to post some pics maybe they will show up soon. The crystal I believe is aftermarket, my jeweler told me the cyclops is glued on with some super glue or something like that. Needless to say, I am relieved that the watch itself is real and I am ordering a replacement original Rolex crystal, will cost me $150, but its better that if the watch was fake@!

Bisquitlips · 18 January 2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike1983

trying to update but my posts are getting caught up in the moderators. The watch is legit, I tried to post some pics maybe they will show up soon. The crystal I believe is aftermarket, my jeweler told me the cyclops is glued on with some super glue or something like that. Needless to say, I am relieved that the watch itself is real and I am ordering a replacement original Rolex crystal, will cost me $150, but its better that if the watch was fake@!

I believe all the cyclops's are glued on as far as I know. Perhaps someone could clarify?

rodal · 18 January 2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisquitlips

I believe all the cyclops's are glued on as far as I know. Perhaps someone could clarify?

Thats correct - actually a simple way to remove the cyclop is to heat it up with a soldering iron to melt the glue....

cody p · 18 January 2009, 02:27 PM

good to hear!

WatchSmith · 18 January 2009, 09:49 PM

Congrats! I know how relieved you must feel. It's a beautiful ORIGINAL watch! Enjoy.

toph · 18 January 2009, 10:33 PM

great news!!!

bwalkerVintage · 19 January 2009, 01:21 AM

phew - glad it turned out ok.

rbc · 19 January 2009, 02:29 AM

That's excellent, how it turned out.

chenx15 · 19 January 2009, 03:52 AM

wow! this was a good one! we should have an exam section like yours to test members ability to identify fake or real. Congratulations on the watch and the bargain you got it for!

miked · 19 January 2009, 04:20 AM

Glad it worked out

Not sure if this was mentioned but Somebody on trf had a gmt-c with a messed up cyclops just the other day. They called rolex and had it resolved.

Rolexitis · 19 January 2009, 04:44 AM

Told ya so.....

Hookie · 19 January 2009, 05:22 AM

Wow, really glad it all worked out for you ! At least you can wear and enjoy it without the worry. Cheers!

Tony-GB · 19 January 2009, 06:04 AM

Nice one. Glad it all worked out.

yannis · 19 January 2009, 06:24 AM

Enjoy your new watch mate! No more worrying for you!

Lol-x · 25 January 2009, 06:50 PM

I wish the SS/PT Yacht-Master had a red date wheel

Oh well, even with Rolex there is always room for improvement.

It will be interesting to see if Rolex has listened to its enthusiasts asking for more 'red' on the dials to see if they respond with anything along those lines at Basel this year.

17 January 2009, 03:14 PM	#1
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	Open the case and look inside! This should be the standard acid test to determine reality when purchasing any Rolex. Any Rolex can and will be faked on the outside, but the innards cannot be faked. __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

17 January 2009, 09:00 PM	#5
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Might be the lighting, but the red second hand looks a little light to me, but it might be the lighting. Get it checked if you have any doubts. Weigh it & tell us what it is in grams. JJ will know instantly what it should weigh (if it has all the bracelet links). I hope it all works out for you. Attached Images __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

17 January 2009, 11:43 PM	#10
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,593	I think it looks O.K. with those further photos you have provided. As Dalton points out the only issue may be that an aftermarket crystal has been used. Anyway congrats __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

18 January 2009, 02:09 AM	#12
mike1983 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 133	Update: All good! I am so relieved, just got back from my watchmaker. Everything is legit. He wasn't able to tell me anything about the size of the date because he had never really paid close attention to the differences (why would he, he is looking right at the movement so he knows if a watch is real or not). He did say that the crystal is original, and everything was in excellent condition, that someone had just recently prepared the watch for sale, so no overhaul or anything needed. Interesting the last poster said he noticed that is 2005 YM date seemed smaller than his DJ watches, hmmm...... I think I will start a survey to get the final word on this one.

18 January 2009, 07:17 AM	#15
Rolexitis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Earth Watch: 114060 Posts: 3,203	It's authentic __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

17 January 2009, 05:57 PM	#2
Dalton TechXpert Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Dal Location: Seattle Watch: 168000 Posts: 1,614	it's looks very real to me and probably has an aftermarket crystal. Everything else looks authentic

17 January 2009, 05:59 PM	#3
Dalton TechXpert Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Dal Location: Seattle Watch: 168000 Posts: 1,614	it's real.

17 January 2009, 08:39 PM	#4
ArizonaHD "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 472	It looks right hands, dial texture, font hands are right length, band, as Dalton stated crystal is incorrect, crown looks suspect you got a side view?. Google the Serial Number, most fake numbers will pop up right away

17 January 2009, 10:32 PM	#6
nhdblfan Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: New Hampshire Watch: 18K DD 118238 Posts: 196	Whos is the dealer?Did he have box and papers? When shopping used.grey buy the dealer first,then the watch. As others have said go have the back opened up and then you can tell.Only way to know for sure

17 January 2009, 10:56 PM	#9
hflee55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: Kuala Lumpur, MY Watch: Me Watching You!! Posts: 3,260	Hi Mike, Best to have it evaluated by professionals. Good Luck!

18 January 2009, 12:59 AM	#11
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	In doing a side-by-side comparison with your pics and my actual YM, everything looks ligit. Mine's a late 2005 TT, so I don't know if there would or should be any differences between the two. As you said though, the date appears to be a little small. Keep in mind 2 things: The size will appear to change depending on what angle you look at it, and the date on my YM, at least to me, seems slightly smaller than the date on my two DJs. I wonder myself if there is a difference in distance between the actual dials of the YM and DJ and the crystals. That would most certainly make a difference in the "size" of the date.

18 January 2009, 02:24 AM	#14
johndoe33131 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: mike Location: L.A. recently Posts: 5	Eagerly waiting to hear what the AD says...

18 January 2009, 02:18 PM	#16
mike1983 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 133	trying to update but my posts are getting caught up in the moderators. The watch is legit, I tried to post some pics maybe they will show up soon. The crystal I believe is aftermarket, my jeweler told me the cyclops is glued on with some super glue or something like that. Needless to say, I am relieved that the watch itself is real and I am ordering a replacement original Rolex crystal, will cost me $150, but its better that if the watch was fake@!

18 January 2009, 02:27 PM	#19
cody p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Canada Watch: Air-King 114200 Posts: 2,878	good to hear!

18 January 2009, 09:49 PM	#20
WatchSmith 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 702	Congrats! I know how relieved you must feel. It's a beautiful ORIGINAL watch! Enjoy.

18 January 2009, 10:33 PM	#21
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	great news!!! __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

19 January 2009, 01:21 AM	#22
bwalkerVintage Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Brendan Location: Cougar Country Posts: 825	phew - glad it turned out ok.

19 January 2009, 02:29 AM	#23
rbc Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Robert Location: New York Watch: Day Date Posts: 105	That's excellent, how it turned out.

19 January 2009, 03:52 AM	#24
chenx15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: somewhere Posts: 2,891	wow! this was a good one! we should have an exam section like yours to test members ability to identify fake or real. Congratulations on the watch and the bargain you got it for! __________________ 16 GS Titles 16 AMS titles (1 short of Agassi) 23 Consecutive GS semifinals 17/18 of the last GS finals, 237 consecutive weeks #1 5 consecutive wimbledon + 1 = 6 cups 5 consecutive US open 4 Australian open 1 Sweet french open a crown for every achievement The Greatest Of All Time loves Rolex

19 January 2009, 04:20 AM	#25
miked "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Connecticut Watch: speedy, po,rlx gmt Posts: 236	Glad it worked out Not sure if this was mentioned but Somebody on trf had a gmt-c with a messed up cyclops just the other day. They called rolex and had it resolved.

19 January 2009, 04:44 AM	#26
Rolexitis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Earth Watch: 114060 Posts: 3,203	Told ya so..... __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

19 January 2009, 05:22 AM	#27
Hookie Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: SUB TT 16613 Posts: 300	Wow, really glad it all worked out for you ! At least you can wear and enjoy it without the worry. Cheers!

19 January 2009, 06:04 AM	#28
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Nice one. Glad it all worked out. __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

19 January 2009, 06:24 AM	#29
yannis "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Yannis Location: Europe Watch: maniac Posts: 9,070	Enjoy your new watch mate! No more worrying for you! __________________ Rolex Submariner 116610LV \| Tudor 79220N DSSD MEMBERS - OWNERS CLUB

25 January 2009, 06:50 PM	#30
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,593	I wish the SS/PT Yacht-Master had a red date wheel Oh well, even with Rolex there is always room for improvement. It will be interesting to see if Rolex has listened to its enthusiasts asking for more 'red' on the dials to see if they respond with anything along those lines at Basel this year. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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