Volvo to limit cars to 112mph/180kph

[Burlington]

This wouldn’t work in Germany. 100 mph is cruising speed.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Funny how Americans are discussing the speed limit of a car that still far exceeds any of your max speed limits... And we're not talking about an exciting supercar, but just a regular Volvo, so why even care...

Those signs are mere recommendations Bas

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

i dont care. Technically my range rover goes to 140. Im not driving an SUV that fast, ever.

there is no reason for safety you need to go over 100. Its more dangerous than safe even if you are having an emergency. With proper race car certifications (if that is even a thing) its still not safe, ever, on a public road.

disagree. there are situations that present safety reasons you want strong accelleration and speed. a trucker almost ran me off the road my 5.0sc put that issue in my rear view.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Funny how Americans are discussing the speed limit of a car that still far exceeds any of your max speed limits... And we're not talking about an exciting supercar, but just a regular Volvo, so why even care...

Same reason we discuss divers that can go deeper than the wrists they’re attached to, I guess.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

my wife's hometown was a dry county until about two years ago. There are lots of them in the south still. Weird because they just drive across the county line, but there is no alcohol in a lot of places.

I lived in a state with “blue laws” before. The intention backfires, unfortunately. One may not purchase alcohol on Sunday.....unless it’s in a bar, to be consumed there. Sunday’s have the highest rate of drunk driving incidents. We’d read about it every Monday morning.

[superstarmar]

Originally Posted by bayerische

I think it's wrong.

But Volvo can do whatever they like, I'm not buying their cars anyway.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by breitlings

disagree. there are situations that present safety reasons you want strong accelleration and speed. a trucker almost ran me off the road my 5.0sc put that issue in my rear view.

Acceleration and speed are two different things. Acceleration you need, speed not so much (within reason).

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by pickettt

I lived in a state with “blue laws” before. The intention backfires, unfortunately. One may not purchase alcohol on Sunday.....unless it’s in a bar, to be consumed there. Sunday’s have the highest rate of drunk driving incidents. We’d read about it every Monday morning.

its weird because the US has the strangest relationship with alcohol of anywhere i have been. The combination of restrictions and abuse are totally paradoxical.

Places with more lax restrictions have less DD and less abuse.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by breitlings

disagree. there are situations that present safety reasons you want strong accelleration and speed. a trucker almost ran me off the road my 5.0sc put that issue in my rear view.

the anecdotal stories are similar to the airbus vs Boeing debate on automation.

Generally speaking the philosophy seems to be Boeing wants the pilot in control at all times, airbus wants the computer to override a pilot input if they do an unsafe maneuver. Almost all accidents are pilot error, not automation error.

There is an exception to the rule but speed is more harmful than the instance when it can save you. On the whole, it's dangerous...IE more lives are saved by limiting speed than not.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by pickettt

I lived in a state with “blue laws” before. The intention backfires, unfortunately. One may not purchase alcohol on Sunday.....unless it’s in a bar, to be consumed there. Sunday’s have the highest rate of drunk driving incidents. We’d read about it every Monday morning.

Sundays......sorry, I’m my own grammar Nazi.

[tritium8]

https://jalopnik.com/volvos-polestar...-to-1833094486

Sounds like their "sports car?" division won't be limiting top speeds.

[dtwer]

Nah. A car company has no business getting into the big-brother, "I decide how you live" silliness.

How an adult person drives his/her car is between him/her, the law, and the Maker.

In regards to the laws that determine the limit of the speeds at which motorists travel on the public roads; it is set by elected officials at the state, county, or municipal level. This is the case at least in the US. The elected officials and their laws that dictate how the populace can use the roads in turn are accountable to the populace. This is what democracy is fundamentally about: accountability to the people.

The idea that a car company can come along and unilaterally decide what speed its car owners can or cannot travel at is, on the other hand, completely going against that principle of democracy.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by dtwer

Nah. A car company has no business getting into the big-brother, "I decide how you live" silliness.

How an adult person drives his/her car is between him/her, the law, and the Maker.

In regards to the laws that determine the limit of the speeds at which motorists travel on the public roads; it is set by elected officials at the state, county, or municipal level. This is the case at least in the US. The elected officials and their laws that dictate how the populace can use the roads in turn are accountable to the populace. This is what democracy is fundamentally about: accountability to the people.

The idea that a car company can come along and unilaterally decide what speed its car owners can or cannot travel at is, on the other hand, completely going against that principle of democracy.

That’s nonsense. A company makes the product it makes, and you buy it.....or don’t. That choice you make.....that’s the democracy you speak of.

[breitlings]

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[returntorolex]

112mph also happens to be the speed rating of S-rated tires.

[mfer]

Well, it looks like Europe might be leading the way in controlling speed limits.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...cli/index.html

Basically it says limits will be required on all new cars in Europe by 2022. Doesn’t get specific.

[brandrea]

Speed kills, so I’m ok with it.

I lost 4 friends in a high speed collision so I guess I’ll be biased on the subject.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by dtwer

The idea that a car company can come along and unilaterally decide what speed its car owners can or cannot travel at is, on the other hand, completely going against that principle of democracy.

WHAT?

Volvo is not unilaterally deciding how fast or slow you drive it's simply limiting its top speed to 112MPH.

And what does any of this have to do with a form of government?

Perhaps you meant to say you find it inhuman, but undemocratic???

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by dtwer

The idea that a car company can come along and unilaterally decide what speed its car owners can or cannot travel at is, on the other hand, completely going against that principle of democracy.

corporations are people too.... remember. The supreme court said so.

So a person (Volvo)can decide that they want to put a safety measure in their own product. Demanding they cant do what they want to do to their own product is what is anti-democratic.

Its their product before its yours. Once you own it, then you can do what you want with it. When its theirs they can do the same.

[CRM114]

Good, it's about time someone addressed the high-speed road insanity linked to farmer's markets, James Taylor concerts, and sandal stores advertising 40% off Birkenstocks. Traveling between Martha's Vineyard and the Berkshires just got safer.

Now, if Subaru would only follow suit the carnage in Vermont and Aspen could be lessened as well, saving many racks of of skis and expensive bicycles.

[Star Ferry]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

corporations are people too.... remember. The supreme court said so.

So a person (Volvo)can decide that they want to put a safety measure in their own product. Demanding they cant do what they want to do to their own product is what is anti-democratic.

Its their product before its yours. Once you own it, then you can do what you want with it. When its theirs they can do the same.

Citizens United didn't say corporations are people. It said the first amendment applies to both individuals as well as associations of people (e.g. corporations)

But to address the post you were quoting, I agree, there's nothing un-democratic about what Volvo is doing. It's a competitive market, and anyone who can afford a Volvo can afford a dozen other brands. Someone who wants to drive their mid-priced family car above 180 kph (perhaps to avoid an incoming tsunami, or a motorcycle gang of killer clowns) can buy elsewhere

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Acceleration and speed are two different things. Acceleration you need, speed not so much (within reason).

I needed both in the situation described. There was a chance of a road rage type incident with these two trucks, not only did I need to acceleration to pass, I also had to put distance between me and trucks going 75mph (the limit).

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the anecdotal stories are similar to the airbus vs Boeing debate on automation.

Generally speaking the philosophy seems to be Boeing wants the pilot in control at all times, airbus wants the computer to override a pilot input if they do an unsafe maneuver. Almost all accidents are pilot error, not automation error.

There is an exception to the rule but speed is more harmful than the instance when it can save you. On the whole, it's dangerous...IE more lives are saved by limiting speed than not.

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the issue presently facing Boeing.

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by CRM114

Good, it's about time someone addressed the high-speed road insanity linked to farmer's markets, James Taylor concerts, and sandal stores advertising 40% off Birkenstocks. Traveling between Martha's Vineyard and the Berkshires just got safer.

Now, if Subaru would only follow suit the carnage in Vermont and Aspen could be lessened as well, saving many racks of of skis and expensive bicycles.

very good!