76100

[fishaddict707]

Hi all! The bug has hit me!

I’ve been offered this 76100, serial 22xxx. He said he thinks he’s had it since the 80s and once the bezel came off it’s been in a drawer since. What are your thoughts on this watch and what should be a fair offer price?



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[dhknola]

Bracelet looks aftermarket, so factor that value at just about zero. Probably factor in a full service with bezel fix as well.

[vnums]

I've been looking to buy one of these for 6-8 months and have been laboriously scouring the market daily and doing as much research as possible. Only reason I came to this post is it's part of my daily "search for a 76100 online everywhere possible" routine.

In all honesty, based on nothing more than my gut feel and having seen hundreds of listings both historical and present, I wouldn't offer more than $3k for this particular one.

Blue ones are selling anywhere from $6-11.5k depending on condition. Black dials $4-9k

As dhknola pointed out the bracelet definitely looks aftermarket, the clasp is absolutely not original to the watch, and I don't think those are the right end links. Watch obviously needs a service cost factored in, thorough cleaning.

I may be wrong, but with a 22xxx serial (I've never seen anything lower than 64xxx for this reference but doesn't mean they don't exist), it would definitely be one of the earliest produced, and I'm fairly certain they didn't add the "dash" in the "T-Swiss-T" until later in '84/early 85 and most of the pieces I've seen with 64xxx-80xxx serials had no dash ("T Swiss T"), so it's a bit fishy to my eye. The lume on the dial and hands also does not look appropriately patina'd either for the supposed age and apparent wear/tear on the watch, so I'm guessing it was a service dial and not original if that matters to you (it will certainly matter for resale value). If its a 22xxxx (4 x's, as in 220,000+) that's a different story.

Something looks a bit off with the date window, date wheel, and font on the date wheel as well though it's hard to tell by the pictures.

I would either offer way under market value or completely steer clear of this one depending on what's important to you, but just my two cents. I'm not an expert by any means I just have an absolute passion for Tudor 76100 subs : )

[fishaddict707]

Originally Posted by vnums

I've been looking to buy one of these for 6-8 months and have been laboriously scouring the market daily and doing as much research as possible. Only reason I came to this post is it's part of my daily "search for a 76100 online everywhere possible" routine.

In all honesty, based on nothing more than my gut feel and having seen hundreds of listings both historical and present, I wouldn't offer more than $3k for this particular one.

Blue ones are selling anywhere from $6-11.5k depending on condition. Black dials $4-9k

As dhknola pointed out the bracelet definitely looks aftermarket, the clasp is absolutely not original to the watch, and I don't think those are the right end links. Watch obviously needs a service cost factored in, thorough cleaning.

I may be wrong, but with a 22xxx serial (I've never seen anything lower than 64xxx for this reference but doesn't mean they don't exist), it would definitely be one of the earliest produced, and I'm fairly certain they didn't add the "dash" in the "T-Swiss-T" until later in '84/early 85 and most of the pieces I've seen with 64xxx-80xxx serials had no dash ("T Swiss T"), so it's a bit fishy to my eye. The lume on the dial and hands also does not look appropriately patina'd either for the supposed age and apparent wear/tear on the watch, so I'm guessing it was a service dial and not original if that matters to you (it will certainly matter for resale value). If its a 22xxxx (4 x's, as in 220,000+) that's a different story.

Something looks a bit off with the date window, date wheel, and font on the date wheel as well though it's hard to tell by the pictures.

I would either offer way under market value or completely steer clear of this one depending on what's important to you, but just my two cents. I'm not an expert by any means I just have an absolute passion for Tudor 76100 subs : )

Thank you for the detailed responses. The serial is 22x,xxx, my mistake. He did mention that he purchased the watch in 88 or 89 when he was TDY overseas and believes he purchased this for around $700.

He also noted that he had it serviced in the early 90s due to rattling issues and had the watchmaker put on the replica Daytona band. Shortly after the bezel came off, he threw it in a drawer and forgot about it until a few months ago when he was packing up his house because he was moving. Could this cause the lume on the dial and hands to age?

I got all his information and will give him a ring to see if he has any more information on the date wheel.

Thanks again and have a great weekend! I will keep you posted.


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[Ticked_off]

I'm wearing a 94010 from 84 with a serial of 1004xx
I thought the 76100 came after the 94110 in the mid 80s

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[Ticked_off]

Sorry, for some reason I thought I had read 1981 somewhere, my mistake. I believe the lollipop hands were only made from 84 until 86 or 87. They're quite uncommon it would seem

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[vnums]

Yes, I think the lollipop hands were mainly only available in '84s, the first models in production, and maybe available in *some* of the earlier 85s. I believe the dashes were added to T-Swiss first, then the mercedes hands, and not at the same time based on what I've seen.

But if the serial is 22x,xxx, then it should be an '88, and should have the dash and the mercedes hands, so those lollipops may be after market or some rare anomaly. They are much more rare and thus more desirable... just may not be original to this exact watch.

Also, if it's an '88, then the datewheel, dial, etc. all look a lot less suspicious and would increase the value of the watch vs what I said before. The brushed silver datewheel was replaced in manufacturing early on it seems, and this watch was only made ~1984-1989, so I would not expect an '88 to have it.

So, all that said, value of the watch should be somewhere between $5-7k, subtract about $1k for lack of original bracelet and maybe $500 for cleaning/service and you're in the range of $3.5-5.5k. If you can get it for <$4k it's probably not too bad. People are asking for more, but those offers are sticking around because no one is buying them at the inflated prices. 76100 is a rare model, seems to be only going up in price, and they look great and are unique, so definitely worth considering if you can get a good deal.

Good luck, and sorry for inundating you with details : )

[vnums]

Originally Posted by Ticked_off

I'm wearing a 94010 from 84 with a serial of 1004xx

Wow, I thought the 9401 stopped being produced in '83, that's very good to know as I'm specifically looking for an '84 tudor sub and have been focusing all my efforts on the 76100, time to broaden the search a bit :) Great looking watch by the way!