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Old 11 February 2009, 08:07 AM   #1
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swiss-T<25

i looked at a new GMT Master II 16713 P series at an A/D. so technically the watch is around 8 years old.
it has slate dial & T/T. instead of "swiss made" written on the 6 o'clock mark, it has "swiss-T<25" on it.
what does that mean?
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:08 AM   #2
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That represents a tritium dial rather than the super luminova designated by "swiss made".
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:11 AM   #3
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It refers to the amount of tritium activity in the markers. T<25 means activity less than 25 millicuries. A millicurie is a measurement of radioactivity.
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:15 AM   #4
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My sea dweller from 1987 had "t<25" on it...and when the lume wore out, and I had it serviced, it got switched to "swiss made"...

I would have preferred the original tritium dial.
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:16 AM   #5
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so, is it good or bad?
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:17 AM   #6
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Neither, Tritium does not need to be "charged" by a light source, but it will eventually lose the glow.
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:19 AM   #7
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I think Tritium has a short half-life, 12.5 years I think.
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Old 11 February 2009, 08:23 AM   #8
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Super-Luminova can be re-charged indefinitiely, but can degrade if it comes in contact with moisture. Also, Tritium produces a constant brightness, whereas Luminova will fade gradually after being charged.
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Old 11 February 2009, 09:41 AM   #9
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i looked at a new GMT Master II 16713 P series at an A/D. so technically the watch is around 8 years old.
it has slate dial & T/T. instead of "swiss made" written on the 6 o'clock mark, it has "swiss-T<25" on it.
what does that mean?
That's about 2000 or so. Might be a couple posibilities. Either you got a very late tritium dial as tritium generally went out about 97-98 or you have a transitional dial.

For a period of time Rolex used dials already marked with the tritium distinction that had yet hade luminous compound applied. Rather than throw them away, they simply applied luminova. Some feel it's a bit of a collectors item. Generally used around 98-03 give or take. Any glow at all?
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That's about 2000 or so. Might be a couple posibilities. Either you got a very late tritium dial as tritium generally went out about 97-98 or you have a transitional dial.

For a period of time Rolex used dials already marked with the tritium distinction that had yet hade luminous compound applied. Rather than throw them away, they simply applied luminova. Some feel it's a bit of a collectors item. Generally used around 98-03 give or take. Any glow at all?
didn't really pay attention. i mean, it's a beautifull watch and i'm seriously considering it. what i don't like is the price...$10250!!!! that's too much for a watch that's almost 10 years old, eventhough it's brand new. i asked for a really deep discount, 25% off and no tax. let's see what happens. it's ben bridge.
just wonder why no one bought it all this time???
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Old 11 February 2009, 11:03 AM   #11
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didn't really pay attention. i mean, it's a beautifull watch and i'm seriously considering it. what i don't like is the price...$10250!!!! that's too much for a watch that's almost 10 years old, eventhough it's brand new. i asked for a really deep discount, 25% off and no tax. let's see what happens. it's ben bridge.
just wonder why no one bought it all this time???
Yeah, That's pretty stiff.
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Yeah, That's pretty stiff.
Agreed.
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Old 11 February 2009, 12:24 PM   #13
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Old 12 February 2009, 07:25 AM   #14
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It is like Panerai...all the pre-vendome (previous Richemond group) The Panerai use to be identified T-swiss-T at 6 o'clock.
Those Panerai are very ewxpensive today and worth almost double of there price!!!
Ex: The modern Pam112 worth about $5000.00 the identical called 002-A ( older 112) is now worth abouth $13,000.00 on the actual market.
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