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Old 13 September 2019, 03:45 AM   #1
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Rolex sub fat four need help

Hi everyone,
New to Rolex and need an expert opinion on this one:
https://www.chrono24.nl/rolex/submar...id10853741.htm

Appreciate your potential help.

Thank you in advance!

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Old 13 September 2019, 03:55 AM   #2
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Nice, but 23.000 ... wow, that's a lot of money.

Do you plan on wearing it? If so, I would try to find one that's not NOS. This one is a safe queen.

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Old 13 September 2019, 04:02 AM   #3
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Looks pretty good to me....

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vint...nn-t11697.html
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Old 13 September 2019, 04:03 AM   #4
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I would buy one which was originally sold in the US with the paperwork stating 16610LV instead of only 16610.
With this one you will never know if all is original or if it is cobbled together.
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Old 13 September 2019, 04:11 AM   #5
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why the price
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Old 13 September 2019, 04:27 AM   #6
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Paperwork is everything on these pieces. If this is what you want to spend your money on, then price doesn't bother me if it's a genuine MKI sub LV. Flat 4 Oval O f serial, need LV on that paperwork number. That's all I know.
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Old 13 September 2019, 04:33 AM   #7
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Total collector piece. The dial also looks correct but I'd get an experts opinion on its authenticity as being an original lv. Tough one to wear. Warranty papers too I hope..

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Old 13 September 2019, 05:23 AM   #8
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Paperwork is everything on these pieces. If this is what you want to spend your money on, then price doesn't bother me if it's a genuine MKI sub LV. Flat 4 Oval O f serial, need LV on that paperwork number. That's all I know.


“LV” does NOT have to be on paperwork at all


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Old 13 September 2019, 05:27 AM   #9
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Thank you every one. Much appreciated
Well i am not really planning to wear it. Just want to buy it and put it in the safe for my kid. When he’s grown up, he can decide for himself what to do with it.

I have no idea about Rolexes, my realm is vinage breitling

Just trying to learn some about these watches.

Thanks again for your input


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Old 13 September 2019, 05:28 AM   #10
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U.K. or European LVs don’t have LV on the paperwork
The USA LV’s have a V after the 16610 model designation



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Old 13 September 2019, 05:33 AM   #11
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Well i am not really planning to wear it. Just want to buy it and put it in the safe for my kid. When he’s grown up, he can decide for himself what to do with it.
Your kid will be wearing an Apple Watch when he grows up (or have some neural implant).
Put the money towards a college fund instead
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Old 13 September 2019, 05:40 AM   #12
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Here's words to live by, that have served me well over the years...

If you are worried about it at all, for any reason, just move on. There are plenty of kermits in the sea
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Old 13 September 2019, 05:43 AM   #13
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Can everybody agree it’s flat four not fat four....the font is no larger than pointed 4....it is however FLAT on top....nice watch though
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Old 13 September 2019, 05:46 AM   #14
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I hope i can raise him in a way that he will appreciate what is been the roots of the digital world.
Things that are made to be there forever
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Old 13 September 2019, 07:31 AM   #15
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It’s a NOS Kermit, buddy. What else do you need to know?!
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Old 13 September 2019, 10:34 AM   #16
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“LV” does NOT have to be on paperwork at all


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It doesn’t but if you don’t run it by RSC and at least get a service estimate to run the serial number in there database u cannot be 100% sure it was born an LV.

I just went through the same thing on a nos flat four set with Italian punched papers. The serial checked out after a service estimate thankfully.

This is an issue with early European punched papers that have no LV or V on then.
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Old 13 September 2019, 10:35 AM   #17
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Can everybody agree it’s flat four not fat four....the font is no larger than pointed 4....it is however FLAT on top....nice watch though
Fat four is the European designation.
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