Would you buy new or used Explorer II

[Bluesy]

Hi Guys!

What is your opinion on the Explorer II?

Do you recommend the Explorer II and would you pay full MSRP for the watch at AD or would you go gray? Are there waiting list on the model at ADs?

[dori]

AD and does this answer your question?




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[beshannon]

It would depend on who had the model I wanted at the price I wanted to pay

[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by dori

AD and does this answer your question?

Very nice polar!

[mineral]

I think the big orange Gmt hand on the current modern explorer 2 is nice and only can be found on vintage 1655 explorer 2. Go for it if you can find one.


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[Saaci]

If you want a 216570 it can be had new with a little persistence from an AD. Also could go grey. A nice 16570 runs a little cheaper but then you will need to go pre-owned. 16550 is niche and can be expensive (cream dial especially). 1655 is the true vintage model and requires more expertise to find the version that suits you at a fair price.

With regards to the newer models I think the crux of the issue is how big do you like a watch to be and how maxi do you like a dial to be?




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[Bluesy]

Wow, thank you all very much for your helpful replies! I really appreciate your help!

Do you guys think it is possible to negotiate the price on this model at AD? Or should I expect months of waiting? Would like to know before I contact my local AD.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Wow, thank you all very much for your helpful replies! I really appreciate your help!

Do you guys think it is possible to negotiate the price on this model at AD? Or should I expect months of waiting? Would like to know before I contact my local AD.

First rule of almost anything... The answer is always NO unless you ask.

Just ask and get your new watch.

Everyone's experience is different.

[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

First rule of almost anything... The answer is always NO unless you ask.

Just ask and get your new watch.

Everyone's experience is different.

Thanks! You are right dear friend!

[Bluesy]

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

[Rado63]

This watch is one that can be had on the secondary market for a discount because pre owned models are plentiful. I would buy pre owned on this one and save some money. Plenty out there still under factory warranty. Otherwise, I doubt the wait time is too long and you can be the original owner and put your name on the card.

[wigdog63]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

I love mine.

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[crazymcmichael]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

Yes very happy with mine!
Go grey or AD if they have one.. They not so easy to find no more so retail or slightly above retail is the way to go for..
It still is a bargain an extremely cool adventurous watch .. Strong reliable readable by the blind gmt function+data flies under radar but still recognizable 100mt WR and can be worn anything from suit to bathing wear. Go for it a true Rolexfreak watch !!!

[rl168]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

Absolutely! Just got mine a few weeks ago. Love the white dial and the orange, it is my designated traveling watch.

[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes very happy with mine!
Go grey or AD if they have one.. They not so easy to find no more so retail or slightly above retail is the way to go for..
It still is a bargain an extremely cool adventurous watch .. Strong reliable readable by the blind gmt function+data flies under radar but still recognizable 100mt WR and can be worn anything from suit to bathing wear. Go for it a true Rolexfreak watch !!!

Yes. Guess I will go to my AD and see if I can get on the list here in Europe.

[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by wigdog63

I love mine.

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Very cool. I really love your picture!

[58junior]

If you can find one at an AD it will be cheaper than a used one from a Grey. Big IF on the AD. They both wear smaller on the wrist due to the bezel. A 26570 looks smaller than a 40mm sub

[Bluesy]

I am not familiar at all with the current market.

Do you think it would be realistic to get 5 or even 10 percent off?

[77T]

For a new Expl.II, most AD’s - if not all - will decline discounting MSRP.

Maybe 3-5% off bottom line for cash vs. credit card.

But to answer the first question, I would suggest pre-owned.

Maybe look for “A” serial number Expl.II’s in average shape. They are the oldest 5-digits you’ll find with a Luminova dial and lug holes.

Then get an RSC overhaul.


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[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by 77T

For a new Expl.II, most AD’s - if not all - will decline discounting MSRP.

Maybe 3-5% off bottom line for cash vs. credit card.

But to answer the first question, I would suggest pre-owned.

Maybe look for “A” serial number Expl.II’s in average shape. They are the oldest 5-digits you’ll find with a Luminova dial and lug holes.

Then get an RSC overhaul.


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Thanks. I like the old model but the newest model sings most to me so i will go for that.

How much do the preowned newest model typically sell for? 7k?

[77T]

They go for less if some work is needed.


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[Harry-57]

I love mine. It was my first Rolex and the novelty has not worn off.

It's coming up on two years since I bought mine from my local AD. They had it in stock and gave me a discount which made it about the same price as a used one with visible marks from Watchfinder. So it was a no brainer.

I expect that getting a discount today will be impossible. But you should always ask, because you'll never know until you ask, and if you don't ask you don't get.

I love the retro look coupled with a distinctly non retro 42mm case. The big hands and lumes are very easy to read and strikingly beautiful when they glow blue against the white dial.

I have a couple of non Rolex GMT watches which can, depending on the light intensity and how it falls, be difficult to read. They can be misread, and, the GMT hand can be hard to see. The Polar never fails to be easy to read, including in pitch darkness after a night's sleep. It's a good mixture of style and functionality.

[Andrejb]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

Yup





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[ThatExplorer]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Thanks. I like the old model but the newest model sings most to me so i will go for that.



How much do the preowned newest model typically sell for? 7k?

Most newer used Exp II I have seen upper 7s

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[Bluesy]

Originally Posted by Andrejb

Yup

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Cool pic and cool tattoo!

[Pentameter]

I love the Exp. II and I really want to own one at some point.

They're not in as high demand as other SS models, so you can usually get them for lower than MSRP on the secondary market - that's probably the route I would go if I was going to buy one. In fact I was close to buying one at one point, a guy had just received one as a gift but he didn't want it and was offering it locally for 7K cash (maybe even less, that was the advertised price). I was very close to doing it but literally my AD called me that day and had a Batman to offer me, so I did that instead.

You can't really go wrong here it's just a question of do you want to save some money buying used or not. It's never bad to buy a Rolex at an AD.

Waitlist I think it depends on your area but I have definitely seen them in the display at my local AD's. They aren't as hard to find as other models are.

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Are you guys who own the watch happy with your Explorer II?

It is a beautiful watch that feels great on my wrist. I will treasure it and hand it down to my grandson.

[Pentameter]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Do you guys think it is possible to negotiate the price on this model at AD? Or should I expect months of waiting? Would like to know before I contact my local AD.

It is very unlikely that they will negotiate on price, but you can try. If you have a good relationship with them they may humor you, but I seriously doubt it. These days it's almost impossible to negotiate on SS Rolex, unless you are special or buying more than one watch.

Originally Posted by Bluesy

I am not familiar at all with the current market.

Do you think it would be realistic to get 5 or even 10 percent off?

I wouldn't use the word realistic, I'd use the word likely - and it isn't likely. SS Rolex are not hard to sell, so they have no reason to offer discounts. They aren't desperate to sell these things.

If price is such a concern for you you should look at buying used, because you can probably get more than 10% off on the secondary market, with this particular model.

[djgallo]

I would buy a used one, and would wear the heck out of it.

[faz]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

Hi Guys!

What is your opinion on the Explorer II?

Do you recommend the Explorer II and would you pay full MSRP for the watch at AD or would you go gray? Are there waiting list on the model at ADs?

It is a beautiful watch, and with GMT functionality it is also very useful. But always buy the watch that you feel connected to, not something that others recommend.

As far as pricing goes, a few months ago (still at the height of SS shortages) I saw one of these at my nearby AD that I could buy at MSRP+tax, but I wasn't interested. Not sure if these are also now a shortage model or not, if things have gotten worse. If the grey pricing is basically MSRP+tax plus a few extra bucks, don't wait for AD and just go with grey market to get the watch sooner and enjoy.