1680 red submariner service dial super rare

[gssl76]

Hi there, I've been hunting a red sub for a while and found one finally but I'm not sure about its dial.
The owner said the dial was the unique mark VIII service dial with "swiss-t<25" instead of just "swiss" although it was not tritium dial.
Are there really that type of dials made by mistake of rolex factory?
I'm skeptical of its authenticity and suspect its dial was changed later not by rolex service center.
Is there anyone who knows about that dial? What do you think about it?

Four pictures are the same watch and last picture is real VIII service dial.

[swish77]

I’d suggest more research on this specific dial for confirmation, but Rolex did indeed make luminova service dials with that tritium marking at the bottom. Odd, yes, but true.

[Chunky]

Why is there a letter in the serial # ?
Not sure that is correct...

[saskmh]

The triangle at the top of the dial looks too short.

I would also question the D in the serial number.

[cajuntiger]

Originally Posted by gssl76

The owner said the dial was the unique mark VIII service dial

I cant answer your specific question...but anyone marketing a service dial as a special thing should be avoided.

Finding a proper 1680 Red Sub is not that difficult...nice examples show up for sale regularly.

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by Chunky

Why is there a letter in the serial # ?
Not sure that is correct...

Was just wondering that myself....

[btinl]

The submariner text looks different than other service dials I've seen.

[saskmh]

http://www.drsd.com/watch-info/red-s...a-red-sub.html

According to DRSD.com the red service dials did come with SWISS T<25 as well (see the glowing lume shot in the lower pic) but as I said above, the dial on your watch does not look right. The triangle is not the right shape. The SUBMARINER text is too small, the SCOC text does not line up properly.

...and the D in the serial number... All of this leads one to believe that this is made up from aftermarket parts.

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by saskmh

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...and the D in the serial number... All of this leads one to believe that this is made up from aftermarket parts.

They just misread the "0" that is there if you look closely in the pics.

[Chunky]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

They just misread the "0" that is there if you look closely in the pics.

So Rolex misread their own serial # after service ?? I would run!

[Thegr8one]

Originally Posted by Chunky

So Rolex misread their own serial # after service ?? I would run!

You have a very good point! Yikes....

[Solarplant]

There are dials marked with tritium, which are very rare in service dials but are made of luminova. However, it differs in appearance from the commonly known service dials. The attached image is a commonly known tritium-labeled luminova dial.

In my opinion, it would be a good idea to check how long the dial with tritium has been supplied during the service dial.

It looks different from the service dial I know.

[phillip ridley]

Originally Posted by Chunky

Why is there a letter in the serial # ?
Not sure that is correct...

Service case, perhaps. I have seen one come through the shop with something similar.

[Solarplant]

This dial is very similar to the aftermarket dial.

[RC2]

Never saw a serial number like that for a vintage watch. And that dial - new to me.


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[saskmh]

Originally Posted by Solarplant

This dial is very similar to the aftermarket dial.

I hadn’t done the side by side comparison but the text lines up the same as that aftermarket dial.

[saskmh]

Yup...same

[Solarplant]

In my opinion, i think this is an aftermarket dial.

The problem is that the service center in Korea has overhauled even though it is an aftermarket dial.

Therefore, if the service center in Korea did not recognize it, the reliability of it is questionable.

[Biglattimer]

This is a legit dial.. I had my 1680 serviced in 2008 in toronto at rolex, they returned my serviced sub wk
With the exact same dial!!

[roh123]

It’s rare but not really desirable. It is a service dialed watch. Pay accordingly.

Meaning much, much less than an original one. If budget is limitting; buy a 5513 or a white 1680.

[athom]

don't buy a watch with such a dial imo..

[bob78h]

Not sure about that dial. I've seen white 1680 luminova dials marked both "SWISS" and "SWISS - T < 25", but never seen a T < 25 red luminova dial.

Aside from the triangle shape that others have called out, the other thing that looks off is the coronet. On the luminova dials the coronet is short and fat, not longer like your watch.

Also, I've never heard of a 1680 with letters in the serial. Even service cases for those watches were all numbers.

[roh123]

They misread the 0 for a D. Don’t expect RSC to know anything about vintage. They just wrote what they saw.

[116710er]

I thought all MK.VIII dials had larger "SUBMARINER" text (like the White dial 1680's)

Also, I've never heard of letters in Rolex serials before the "R" series in the late 80's. A service case would have a 4,4XX,XXX serial, no? I suppose RSC could have mis-typed that but that seems odd in and of itself. I think the third number is a "8" but it's hard to tell. Could be a "0" as other's pointed out.

I think that's a Yuki dial. They probably kept the real service dial and sold it and just installed the fake dial.

[1665fan]

Coronet is wrong as others have stated....probably why it’s covered up in the first 2 pics....hoping u jump on it before you notice the aftermarket dial...stay away

[Swearengen]

Alignment of the crosses in ft with = seems wrong plus too much space between ft and = would put me on guard.

[fusionstorm]

It’s not a coincidence that the time has been set to strategically obscure those parts of the dial that several posters mention have discrepancies from known legit service dials. 10 past 10 o’clock would show too much of the dodgy detail with this dial. Run, Forrest! Run!!!