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Old 20 September 2019, 12:19 AM   #31
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No pain, no gain. I would start by "fetching" your own lunch. Unless you're work is so damn important that you can't sacrifice leaving your desk for your health. Shaking my damn head. Seriously.
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Old 20 September 2019, 01:20 AM   #32
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Since you’re in NJ, weather can control your access to outdoor exercise options. And put you back indoors where stationary bikes, treadmills, etc May bore you.

You don’t like to sweat - so maybe take up swimming? Lane workouts will actually cause you to sweat but you won’t be noticed


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Old 20 September 2019, 06:13 AM   #33
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Old 20 September 2019, 06:22 AM   #34
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(Prefacing this by saying most of this was written in a very tongue and cheek way, not 100% meant to be taken seriously)

My job basically entails sitting at my desk all day. I barely move much. I come into work, and my assistant has my iced coffee waiting for me at my desk. Lunch time comes and my assistant fetches it for me. Most of my work stuff is strategically placed within arms reach.

Now, I'm not the size of a house, but I have gotten thicker than I'd like, and I've always been blessed with a body type that mitigates my weight well, so I never looked overly "hefty".

But serious heart problems run in my family. Over the past 2 years I've noticed my BP has gone quite high which meant I needed to start seeing a cardiologist (I'm 31 years old). Over the past year I've lost some weight about 45 pounds. My cardiologist recommends exercising more, now this is where things get hairy...

I hate exercising, I hate moving. It makes me feel like I'm dying, and I hate sweating. Any form of movement makes me sweat, and very self conscious. So over the years I've minimized any movement from the car to wherever, AC every place I go!

I went to Hawaii last February, and in a cruel turn of events, my partner tricked me into hiking up Diamond Head. I was so out of breath, so winded, so tired. I hated them for the WHOLE WAY UP. But then I got to the top... and it was magical- all that hatred went away. But still, it was awful. And getting down was just as terrible!

Anyway, I've been doing weight watchers on and off, and I fell off the wagon really bad once summer came. I gained some weight back, but this time around I'm looking to focus on my diet, and exercising.

How the heck do you guys run? How the heck do you guys exercise without wishing death upon everyone mid workout? I did Hot Yoga once or twice because everyone said it was so "peaceful", but all it did was make me burn with hatred for the instructor making me contort into these ridiculous poses that were "easy", but not so easy when you're sweating bullets with a large tire around your waist.

I'm in NJ, and the fall is coming, maybe Hiking would be nice, but not sure if there are any decent trails that will have a nice view, without making me feel like I'm climbing Mt Everest.

Anyone else in a similar spot?
Firstly you have to separate fitness from what your diet is. 80% of your weight is controlled by what you pump into your body. Things like weight watchers can work but almost never long term because someone else is doing your thinking for you.

You have to decided for yourself you want to eat better and start by cutting down on carbs, packaged foods, junk foods, sodas, and other industrial garbage masquerading as food. Start by getting that crap out of your house. Then buy real food, real vegetables, real grass fed meat, etc. Try reading Primal Blueprint for ideas. It will also help you learn what is the difference between carbs, proteins and fats and how they affect your body when you eat them. Once you understand the macros ( carbs, proteins, fats) you will then be in charge of your diet and can begin to make informed choices on what to eat and what to steer clear of. After you get your diet/lifestyle food choices in a good place you will have no desire to eat junk anymore.

Then comes fitness. You need heart and lungs first, then muscle tone second. As others have said exercising for the sake of exercising is boring and usually unsustainable especially since you hate doing it. So do things like walking or bike riding which gets your heart and lungs going, and can be pleasurable just because it out in nature and will also lower your blood pressure.

There is no need to be jogging, just walk. It clears your head and enhanced your life.

If you hate weights, just start doing simple sit-ups and pushups every morning and perhaps evening. Start with 10 and soon you’ll work your way up to 25 or 50.

Once you get into a rhythm with the real food and exercise soon you’ll add more things just naturally on your own because you’ll feel great.

Controlling your food and movement is not dieting and exercising, it’s lifestyle and it takes over your life in a positive manner.
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Old 20 September 2019, 06:38 AM   #35
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No pain, no gain. I would start by "fetching" your own lunch. Unless you're work is so damn important that you can't sacrifice leaving your desk for your health. Shaking my damn head. Seriously.
I guess you missed the part where I said my post was tongue in cheek.

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Old 20 September 2019, 06:49 AM   #36
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Firstly you have to separate fitness from what your diet is. 80% of your weight is controlled by what you pump into your body. Things like weight watchers can work but almost never long term because someone else is doing your thinking for you.

You have to decided for yourself you want to eat better and start by cutting down on carbs, packaged foods, junk foods, sodas, and other industrial garbage masquerading as food. Start by getting that crap out of your house. Then buy real food, real vegetables, real grass fed meat, etc. Try reading Primal Blueprint for ideas. It will also help you learn what is the difference between carbs, proteins and fats and how they affect your body when you eat them. Once you understand the macros ( carbs, proteins, fats) you will then be in charge of your diet and can begin to make informed choices on what to eat and what to steer clear of. After you get your diet/lifestyle food choices in a good place you will have no desire to eat junk anymore.

Then comes fitness. You need heart and lungs first, then muscle tone second. As others have said exercising for the sake of exercising is boring and usually unsustainable especially since you hate doing it. So do things like walking or bike riding which gets your heart and lungs going, and can be pleasurable just because it out in nature and will also lower your blood pressure.

There is no need to be jogging, just walk. It clears your head and enhanced your life.

If you hate weights, just start doing simple sit-ups and pushups every morning and perhaps evening. Start with 10 and soon you’ll work your way up to 25 or 50.

Once you get into a rhythm with the real food and exercise soon you’ll add more things just naturally on your own because you’ll feel great.

Controlling your food and movement is not dieting and exercising, it’s lifestyle and it takes over your life in a positive manner.
Again you and I are exactly on the same page. You need to commit to a lifestyle change and stick to it. Its all about what and how much goes in the mouth plain and simple. I am not fat free 10 years with not putting on 1 single LB the entire time I made the change and commitment .. It does just not magically happen I can assure you. You need to decide for yourself how bad you want to do it and go for it..This is me cycling last year in DUBAI with temps in excess of 110F and I am 65 1/2 years old weighing 152 lbs. 10 years ago I was 265+ lbs..

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Old 20 September 2019, 07:13 AM   #37
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I guess you missed the part where I said my post was tongue in cheek.

Nope. I didn't miss that, I guess I just don't see how it was tongue and cheek... but on a more thoughtful note, I too had/have a fairly sedentary job (video editing) but I also shoot and produce, so some days are on my feet all day...

I used to ride bicycle a lot, but my latest thing is rowing. I joined the local rowing club, and after learning how, I joined a competitive team where we traveled to local regattas to race. In the winters we train on rowing machines (called ergs) in the evenings because of the time change, but still on the water on Saturdays.

Training is 3x a week, and it's seriously the most intense brutal exercise I have ever done. A while back we have started incorporating a 4th night of cross fit at a local gym.

I'm glad I decided to join the team/club because it's much easier to stay motivated in a group than to do it on your own...

However... I have since temporarily quit the team because I have moved away for the spring, summer and fall (to the beach) and even though I have joined a gym (a really nice one) with erg machines, I feel way less motivated to workout.... I can feel myself sliding a bit back into old habits of not eating well and making excuses to skip the erg workout at the gym... drinking beer on the beach is way more fun than killing myself on the erg, right?

That being said, I'm heading to the gym in a little while... This thread has motivated me.

Oh, and as others have said... start small. When I first started on the erg, I thought rowing 1000 meters was effing crazy... Now my warm up is at least 1-2 K meters. It gets easier, especially if you stick with it... and even though I hate every second, it's all worth it. I bitch and moan (internally) when it's time to work out, but when I'm done, I always feel great.


Make the time for a routine, and just make yourself do it. You'll be glad you did. And don't be afraid of a little sweat (or lots).
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Old 20 September 2019, 07:28 AM   #38
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I suggest going "whole food, plant based" with your food.
Find a movie called Forks over Knives and also a brand new release worldwide this week called The Game Changers.
I've been eating no meat, no dairy now for two + years and couldn't be happier. You can eat HUGE meals and lose not gain weight if you exercise. I'm 73 kg now [not sure in pounds]. You get used to the veggie lifestyle in a few weeks. I used to love steak, chicken, fish, chocolate etc. I don't miss them at all now.
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Old 20 September 2019, 12:54 PM   #39
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Exercising or losing weight is like quitting smoking. Everyone and their dog can tell you why you should do it, but you have to have your own reason to actually succeed.

No one can make you get up at 6am and run 5 miles, it has to be in you.

You need to find your own reason to do it. That's what will drive you.
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The trick is starting out slowly, then making exercising part of your lifestyle.

Don't start with a long hike or a one hour walk. Start with a 15 minute walk, 3 times a week. Then after two weeks go to 20 minutes, etc, until you can comfortably go for 30-60 minutes. Then add another day, or go every other day.

Next don't make it so after work you have to figure out IF you are going to walk. Commit to M, W, F and just do it. It becomes a habit like any other habit.

Then you can eventually move on to running only if you want to when you body is primed for it. And you would start running the same way. Very slowing increasing your time.

Most important thing is developing a habit, and any habit takes several weeks to make. So make yourself walk for a few weeks and habits will take over. Good luck!
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Don't start with running unless you already like exercise and have a good baseline, you'll end up very demotivated otherwise.

Honestly though, get moving and push through that mental barrier, you're not too late to get started and you have to do hard physical exercise at least a few times a week.
Once you have some stamina and are used to it you will find you feel much better during your day to day life and also sweat much less from small things.

Exercise isn't always fun, even for people addicted to it like me. You'll definitely get days where you just don't want to go, but you still go. Discipline is everything and don't ever feel sorry for yourself.
Can’t add a whole lot....I agree with these gentlemen, great advice here!
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Old 21 September 2019, 11:37 AM   #40
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All diets come down to one thing....caloric deficit. It doesn't matter which diet, they all work on simple physics. Eat often, but small portions, eat twice a day, it doesn't matter, just restrict your caloric intake.

Exercise really does a body and mind good. I was getting a bit pudgy, even though I am the thin type build, so I started to run. It SUCKED for the first 2 weeks, winded after 2 laps around the neighborhood, joint pain, etc... But after 2 weeks, I didn't get so winded and it felt good to run (kind of, I am basically not an exercise person). BUT, for me the big part was immediate feed back. After running for just 2 weeks I felt better when I woke up. I was less tired mid-afternoon. I moved better. So I still run, only 3k a night, with 2 day off for rest (wed and sun), and I can see tangible results. Almost forget, I got a blood and blood pressure test for work. My blood pressure dropped to like 120 over 55 I think, I can't remember exactly, but it was about 10-15 points lower than the year before.

Forget about sweat. That's like saying you want to swim without getting wet. Wear proper fitness clothes and sweat, it is part of the game. After a while though, you will sweat less. My sweat from running dropped over 50% once I got used to it. Who knows, maybe you sweat more because of health issues, and it will get better over time.

If you don't take care of your health and body, it will go down from there. I see what will happen and want to prevent it while I can.
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Old 21 September 2019, 02:49 PM   #41
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To add to my previous post.

Diet and exercise are super important, however, sleep is just as important and probably even more so.
Make sure you have a solid 8hrs every single night, you'll feel better, perform better and recover better (from exercise or illness).

If you sleep well you'll have more motivation to train and stick to your diet.
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Old 21 September 2019, 08:25 PM   #42
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To add to my previous post.

Diet and exercise are super important, however, sleep is just as important and probably even more so.
Make sure you have a solid 8hrs every single night, you'll feel better, perform better and recover better (from exercise or illness).

If you sleep well you'll have more motivation to train and stick to your diet.
Friday night. Went to bed at 10:00. Up at 6:00 to start my workout. Agree completely Bas. For the moment, I’m off the sauce again and sleeping better than ever.

Love keeping my sleep patterns mostly regular on the weekend (lately up at 4:30 weekdays).

The health and fitness thing have gotten important enough to me that most days revolve around it.

Now if I could just stop periodically stuffing my face, that would be super.
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Most will say abs aren’t made in the gym, meaning your weight has to do with what you’re putting in your body.

I’m a big believer in moderation. Eat a healthy balanced diet, and watch your portions.

Unfortunately a body is meant to be in motion (if you don’t move it you lose it). Find an activity you like and get into a routine around it.

You don’t have to become a gym rat or ultra marathoner (not slagging you Bas) to see results.

A healthy body will require some effort though.
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Friday night. Went to bed at 10:00. Up at 6:00 to start my workout. Agree completely Bas. For the moment, I’m off the sauce again and sleeping better than ever.

Love keeping my sleep patterns mostly regular on the weekend (lately up at 4:30 weekdays).

The health and fitness thing have gotten important enough to me that most days revolve around it.

Now if I could just stop periodically stuffing my face, that would be super.
Awesome. I go to bed at 10 and get up at 6 every day as well, weekends included (I never go out), usually I can skip an hour of sleep in the weekends but I never get less than 7hrs.

Not only does it make you more productive and makes you feel better. I've read that consistent sleep deprivation can significantly increase your risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes and Alzheimer's.

Sleep is very very important.

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Most will say abs aren’t made in the gym, meaning your weight has to do with what you’re putting in your body.

I’m a big believer in moderation. Eat a healthy balanced diet, and watch your portions.

Unfortunately a body is meant to be in motion (if you don’t move it you lose it). Find an activity you like and get into a routine around it.

You don’t have to become a gym rat or ultra marathoner (not slagging you Bas) to see results.

A healthy body will require some effort though.
Lol, I don't have the beach body that one might think with this much exercise Running ultramarathons and having a fast metabolism makes a very skinny body
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People eat way too much....american portion sizes are mind boggling...if you have a calorie deficit u lose weight...simple as that
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People eat way too much....american portion sizes are mind boggling...if you have a calorie deficit u lose weight...simple as that
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Friday night. Went to bed at 10:00. Up at 6:00 to start my workout. Agree completely Bas. For the moment, I’m off the sauce again and sleeping better than ever.

Love keeping my sleep patterns mostly regular on the weekend (lately up at 4:30 weekdays).

The health and fitness thing have gotten important enough to me that most days revolve around it.

Now if I could just stop periodically stuffing my face, that would be super.
Haha, same game plan here. Everyday I NEED to do something gym related. But its the food part that is a challenge to keep tabs on. At least I know my cardio and heart are in great shape!
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Awesome. I go to bed at 10 and get up at 6 every day as well, weekends included (I never go out), usually I can skip an hour of sleep in the weekends but I never get less than 7hrs.

Not only does it make you more productive and makes you feel better. I've read that consistent sleep deprivation can significantly increase your risk of heart disease, cancer, diabetes and Alzheimer's.

Sleep is very very important.



Lol, I don't have the beach body that one might think with this much exercise Running ultramarathons and having a fast metabolism makes a very skinny body
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