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Yes, no issues | 1,059 | 69.72% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine | 62 | 4.08% | |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) | 398 | 26.20% | |
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13 May 2023, 02:17 AM | #4081 |
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my watchtracker : https://ibb.co/Zm731B8
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13 May 2023, 02:27 AM | #4082 |
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For a new watch (02/2023) your timegraher data are below what I would expect.
I am not surprised that the timekeeping is still (very) good, according to your Watch Tracker curve. The rather low amplitude values in vertical positions would be a concern for me. Here a graph from your first data. |
13 May 2023, 02:31 AM | #4083 | |
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I guess your watch loses time on your wrist (day) and gains time at rest in DU (night)? |
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13 May 2023, 03:48 AM | #4084 |
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It is my first rolex, symbolic moreover... I am rather disappointed of the data knowing that everyone puts Rolex like a very robust mark.
I will be ashamed that after a few months the watch will be repaired, we are talking about 6350€. Yes, it loses time on the range and gains time at night. |
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Do not get too much frustrated, you have 5 years of warranty. I am not so sure about your first set of data but spent some time to answer many of your questions because your watch is very interesting: new from 02/2023. I would do the following: get your watch measured by an AD watchmaker who uses a Witschi timegrapher. Ask for the timegrapher parameters (stabilisation time, measurement time), for the Witschi printout, and for his opinion. Your watch should be at ambient temperature (not on your wrist) when you give it to the AD watchmaker. I would NOT give this watch for repair to RSC! It is running very well: -2s after 18 days is very very good. |
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13 May 2023, 04:23 AM | #4086 |
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Thanks anyway Saxo, I won't bother you anymore, I'll share my measurements when it's over
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13 May 2023, 04:26 AM | #4087 |
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I agree on the -2 in 18 days which is very good. Besides, how can we explain that it is well on the wrist but given levels really average? I'm an engineer in computer science so I spend 8 hours in front of a computer, a lot of position 3H and DU I think.
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13 May 2023, 04:37 AM | #4089 | |
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I think your watch is not running "well" on your wrist because it always loses time during that period (day) and you can only gain in horizontal position (at rest) during night. You could do an interesting experiment: wear your watch 24/24 (also when sleeping) for a few days only, and continue to measure with Watchtracker. I have an idea what will happen. |
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13 May 2023, 04:55 AM | #4090 |
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Yes, I understand, but of course I'm comparing it to the timegrapher data, but I hope it won't drift more than 3 seconds because that would be my maximum
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13 May 2023, 05:10 AM | #4091 | |
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13 May 2023, 05:16 AM | #4092 |
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Yes, of course. In some forums we hear that a rolex can take some time to "settle in", what do you think ?
I don't know yet about the 24/24 experience |
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15 May 2023, 07:10 PM | #4094 |
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Saxo, here are the new measures:
FULL: DU: +0.7: 269: 0ms 6H : -3.7: 211: 0ms 9H : -5.1: 215: 0.1ms 3H : -2.2: 219: 0.2ms DD : +0.9 : 258 : 0ms Average: -1.88 / 234.4 / 0.06 10H : DU: +1.5: 270: 0ms 6H: -3.5: 210 : 0ms 9H: -3.7: 223 : 0ms 3H: -1.9: 222 : 0.2ms DD: +0.9: 254 : 0ms Average: 1.34 / 235.8 / 0.04 24H : DU: +1.5: 261 : 0ms 6H: -4.2 : 202 : 0ms 9H: -5.2 : 200 : 0ms 3H: -4.2 : 204 : 0.2ms DD: 0.0 : 242 : 0ms Average: -2.42 / 221.8 / 0.04 34H : DU: +1.2 : 251 : 0ms 6H: -5.8 : 189 : 0.1ms 9H: -4.8 : 192 : 0.1ms 3H: -5.5 : 192 : 0.3ms DD: 0.0 : 225 : 0ms Average: -2.98 / 209.8 / 0.1 48H : DU: +0.1 : 230 : 0ms 6H: -13.3 : 162 : 0ms 9H: -6.2 : 158 : 0ms 3H: -10.2 : 165 : 0.4ms DD: -1.3 : 193 : 0ms Average: -4.38 / 175.6 / 0.08 58H : DU: -0.1 : 199 : 0ms 6H: -19.9 : 143 : 0ms 9H: -9.1 : 141 : 0ms 3H: -13.2 : 145 : 0.4ms DD: -4.4 : 169 : 0ms Average: -9.34 / 159.4 / 0.08 69H: DU: -5.7 : 150 : 0ms 6H: 9H: 3H: DD: Average: Stop in full measure: 69h10min 1 month ago: it was 70h40min Strange no? |
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Not really strange.
The movement requires warranty work. Those readings are some of the worst I have seen.
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15 May 2023, 09:27 PM | #4097 |
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I would like to have Bas' opinion too
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It is only a question of time when the vertical amplitudes will drop below 200 degrees after 24 h. The power reserve (69 hours 10 min) is also too low. It is a classical example that one still observes a good timekeeping on the wrist with an already "sick" 32xx movement. Here are the graphs for test 1 and test 2. |
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Nevertheless, the average rate X is still very good until 36 hours (right graph below).
Many owners would not recognise that this watch already has an issue with too low amplitudes. |
16 May 2023, 01:59 AM | #4101 |
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Would a watch with lower amplitudes be using MORE power from the mainspring?
Or would it be using less? I'm wondering if decreasing runtimes are linked to the amplitude getting lower. I'd think that a lower amplitude would make the watch use less power, not more but I don't know the details. Maybe the added friction is the culprit of less runtime. I say this because my watch had good power reserve (over 72 hours) while keeping perfect time right after service, and now seems to stop at more like 60-65 hours - whenever I've checked it (rarely). |
16 May 2023, 05:30 AM | #4102 |
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Thank you Saxo, what would you do in my place? because the watch keeps the time on your wrist very well. The amplitudes are over 200 after 24 hours. If it stays like that for a long time, it means that there may be no problem? I know that Bas had said that the 32xx are logically designed not to have student amplitudes due to the new escapement. Maybe the watch will continue to have the same amplitudes for years? is that not possible?
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16 May 2023, 09:40 PM | #4105 |
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I understand what you mean Padi and that's what I was going to do but considering the tests and the feedback I got, it's still stressful considering the price of the watch
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I agree with Saxo & Padi to not fret - wear it - easy to say but harder to do. Maybe once a year have it checked. I always had the water resistance checked before I went to the beach and knew I’d be snorkeling, etc. just ask to have the amp & accuracy checked too. While it’s under warranty you’ll get complimentary service and that should settle any accuracy failings. Giving the Watch more time before intervention also allows for a potentially improved service procedure if Rolex finds a better one for 32xx problem(s). I always had the pressure checks done because water damage isn’t covered in the warranty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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17 May 2023, 03:24 AM | #4107 |
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The 32xx has been out for 8 years. New ones are still having the issue. I’m losing faith there will be a long term fix.
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17 May 2023, 06:51 AM | #4108 | |
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Depending on who one talks to some watches experience some initial running in while others don't and this mirrors my experience where a watch may have run 3 seconds faster than normal when brands new for the first week or so, then it would suddenly settle in to a regular rate from then on. This was mostly my experience in years gone by but not necessarily within the last 10 years or so with the exception of a brand new Speedy pro which I bought a few years ago that seemed to settle in but I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to that one Some watchmakers say there is no logical reason why a settling in period should exist and i see their logic. Consider this. A Rolex watch movement that is COSC certified has already been run at the observatory for about a 2 week period as part of it's sequence of tests before it has been cased up and tested further to see if it meets the "Superlative" standard before it's sent out from the factory. How much more running in could the movement really require? |
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17 May 2023, 07:31 AM | #4109 |
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I do not know if it can speak to you but it ran 0 seconds constant I was even obliged to alternate DU then 3H the following night to return to 0 so much it was precise and it is when I carried out the test of the power reserve which lasted a little more than 70h and that I wound it up, the it started to drift of -1sec If it speaks to someone or if you have an explanation?
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I concur, sadly.
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