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Atomant · 25 July 2010, 11:58 AM

My TT Sub-C

The GMT Kid · 25 July 2010, 12:14 PM

I'm voting for the DSSD, but I have to admit that I haven't seen the new sub ceramic. I just cannot warm up to the GMTIIc bezel, the numbers are just too grotesque.

chronus · 25 July 2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

This one.............the others are Ceramic, but don't look like it!! This one does!!

Couldn't agree more

Andad · 25 July 2010, 03:52 PM

I'm with you on the TT ceramic bezel JJ.

Colnago · 25 July 2010, 05:01 PM

That's a belter of a photograph Eddie....here's one of mine

padi56 · 25 July 2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

In terms of shear beauty what do we think is the best ceramic bezel out there?

Well speaking for myself cannot call any insert a thing of beauty whether it be ceramic or aluminium. They are both functionally the same and do the same basic job but one costs a hell of a lot more to replace if needed.

EchoBlueUK · 25 July 2010, 06:49 PM

Looks like the gmt2c is starting to pull away from the competition. Keep voting!

Psmith · 25 July 2010, 07:10 PM

GMT IIC

EZZELDIN · 25 July 2010, 07:12 PM

Gmt 2 c

Gerardus · 25 July 2010, 08:24 PM

Nice pic JJ, i have the same view now

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

This one.............the others are Ceramic, but don't look like it!! This one does!!

i5475p · 25 July 2010, 08:55 PM

Although not a fan of the overall watch...I think the GMTIIc wins this hands down.

EchoBlueUK · 26 July 2010, 12:04 AM

Are there any particular reasons for the way people are voting? Is it that the GMTIIC has a ore symmetrical appearance or is it that it's routed more than the SubC?

rfknauss · 26 July 2010, 12:11 AM

Voted for the DSSD.

andrew79 · 26 July 2010, 12:27 AM

GMT ii c and I'm biased LOL

IT-guy · 26 July 2010, 12:37 AM

Sub! GMT's one is a little too busy.

EchoBlueUK · 26 July 2010, 03:20 AM

Is the process for making the GMTIIc's the same as making the Subs? Does anyone know?

JJ Irani · 26 July 2010, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

Is the process for making the GMTIIc's the same as making the Subs? Does anyone know?

Good question. On the Rolex website, they do have a short video on how the GMT-IIC bezel is made. Not sure if the same process is used for the SUBs and DSSD bezels.

JJ

MagedMS · 26 July 2010, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

Is the process for making the GMTIIc's the same as making the Subs? Does anyone know?

Yes, it's the same process.. Referring to the Rolex website.. The same explanation (for how the ceramic bezels are made) applies for both GMTs & SUBs..

TheDude · 26 July 2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MagedMS

Yes, it's the same process.. Referring to the Rolex website.. The same explanation (for how the ceramic bezels are made) applies for both GMTs & SUBs..

Well, not exactly the same since there is no routing on the Sub/SDDS bezels. I'd be curious to see how they apply the PVD gold/platinum on the bezels where it's "inside" the ceramic.

EchoBlueUK · 26 July 2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

Well, not exactly the same since there is no routing on the Sub/SDDS bezels. I'd be curious to see how they apply the PVD gold/platinum on the bezels where it's "inside" the ceramic.

How does the routing work? The Sub's look cut out to me. Is it different on the GMT?

Maxseven · 26 July 2010, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

Are there any particular reasons for the way people are voting? Is it that the GMTIIC has a ore symmetrical appearance or is it that it's routed more than the SubC?

Indeed. I echo your question. Has anyone supplied reasoning for their decision?

In my opinion, I think people are voting for the watch, rather than the bezel.

While I like the GMT best as a whole watch, I still think both the Sub and the DS have a superior ceramic bezel. The GMT does not have the little luminous orb and collar on the triangle marker, which is a huge demerit if we are just talking about the bezels.

TheDude · 26 July 2010, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

How does the routing work? The Sub's look cut out to me. Is it different on the GMT?

If you watch the Rolex ceramic bezel video, it shows the routing drill making the numbers on a GMT bezel. The Yacht 2 is routed as well on models that are ceramic.

The SDDS and Sub are flush bezels and the precious metals are PVD'd at some layer underneath the outer layer. Not sure how this is achieved, but the result is a smooth insert.

TheDude · 26 July 2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Maxseven

Indeed. I echo your question. Has anyone supplied reasoning for their decision?

In my opinion, I think people are voting for the watch, rather than the bezel.

While I like the GMT best as a whole watch, I still think both the Sub and the DS have a superior ceramic bezel. The GMT does not have the little luminous orb and collar on the triangle marker, which is a huge demerit if we are just talking about the bezels.

I fail to see how a luminous pip would help you do anything with a GMT. With a sub, knowing the position of the pip in relation to the minute hand is of value.

On a GMT, knowing where "zero" is on the bezel would be pretty useless if it were dark and that's all you could see. Only a fully luminous bezel would be of value.

Maxseven · 26 July 2010, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDude

I fail to see how a luminous pip would help you do anything with a GMT. With a sub, knowing the position of the pip in relation to the minute hand is of value.

On a GMT, knowing where "zero" is on the bezel would be pretty useless if it were dark and that's all you could see. Only a fully luminous bezel would be of value.

True, but the the question is: "Which is The Best Looking Ceramic Bezel?"

So, I am not considering functionality, only aesthetics.

:)

George Ab · 26 July 2010, 06:33 AM

YM II with blue bezel and WG Sub with blue.

Deep sea of course!! Why, because I own one, and its bigger.

Great to see pictures of the new Sub C in the wild. Congratulations to you owners for owning the coolest sub available. I say this as I'm trying to get on your good side, as I hope to buy it off of you two years from now

.

ersnyder · 26 July 2010, 06:38 AM

If the economy keeps circling the drain, I may PM you well before 2 years!

EchoBlueUK · 26 July 2010, 08:54 AM

I'm quite surprised the dssd hasn't got more votes considering it's simply bigger than the sub's and has more detail with the minute ticks. Looks like gmt is the favourite so far though.

MagedMS · 27 July 2010, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

How does the routing work? The Sub's look cut out to me. Is it different on the GMT?

Well I think the exact term here is (CARVING) not (ROUTING) as the Router is used to cut in a material - from both sides - to open a groove.. Not the case of Ceramic bezels.. As Rolex is using the term Carved which means engraving a specific design (Numbers) in a material (Ceramic) to create this 3D shape that will be filled with Platinum or Gold...

Referring to the Rolex brochures concerning this issue.. And back to the OP why should it be 2 different process to create a same Bezel ? The only difference is the (FONT) carved in GMT / SUB & DSSD..

View Poll Results: Which Has The Best Looking Ceramic Bezel?
SubC	49	30.25%
GMTIIC	81	50.00%
DSSD	32	19.75%
Voters: 162. You may not vote on this poll

25 July 2010, 11:58 AM	#31
Atomant "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fernwood Posts: 3,455	My TT Sub-C __________________ 116613LN 16600SD 16610LV 116710 16710 16570 Speedy 3570.50 PAM25 Oris TT1 and a bunch of G-Shocks. Flipped: Daytona 116520 Seamaster 2231.80

25 July 2010, 03:52 PM	#34
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,534	I'm with you on the TT ceramic bezel JJ. Attached Images __________________ E

25 July 2010, 05:01 PM	#35
Colnago "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bill Hart Location: Richmond, NY, UK Watch: Rlx=3, Tdr=3, Om=3 Posts: 3,053	GMTIIc That's a belter of a photograph Eddie....here's one of mine Attached Images __________________ Bill "There's only three kinds of people in this world....those that can count....and those that can't" TRF's "JJ's" Bar & NightClub Patron

25 July 2010, 07:10 PM	#38
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	GMT IIC __________________

25 July 2010, 12:14 PM	#32
The GMT Kid Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: S.F. Peninsula Watch: what you say! Posts: 815	I'm voting for the DSSD, but I have to admit that I haven't seen the new sub ceramic. I just cannot warm up to the GMTIIc bezel, the numbers are just too grotesque.

25 July 2010, 06:49 PM	#37
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Looks like the gmt2c is starting to pull away from the competition. Keep voting!

25 July 2010, 07:12 PM	#39
EZZELDIN Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: EZZELDIN Location: EGYPT Watch: 116718 GMT MASTER Posts: 89	Gmt 2 c

25 July 2010, 08:55 PM	#41
i5475p "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: US Watch: 116600 Posts: 68	Although not a fan of the overall watch...I think the GMTIIc wins this hands down.

26 July 2010, 12:04 AM	#42
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Are there any particular reasons for the way people are voting? Is it that the GMTIIC has a ore symmetrical appearance or is it that it's routed more than the SubC?

26 July 2010, 12:11 AM	#43
rfknauss 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Richard Location: Macungie, PA Watch: 5513 Sub, LV Sub Posts: 14,497	Voted for the DSSD. __________________ *"Few things in life give man as great a pleasure as wearing a Rolex!"* TRF's "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Patron

26 July 2010, 12:27 AM	#44
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	GMT ii c and I'm biased LOL __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

26 July 2010, 12:37 AM	#45
IT-guy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: DC Watch: SD 126600 Posts: 195	Sub! GMT's one is a little too busy.

26 July 2010, 03:20 AM	#46
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Is the process for making the GMTIIc's the same as making the Subs? Does anyone know?

26 July 2010, 06:33 AM	#55
George Ab "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: George Location: Seattle Watch: One of Them Posts: 6,924	YM II with blue bezel and WG Sub with blue. Deep sea of course!! Why, because I own one, and its bigger. Great to see pictures of the new Sub C in the wild. Congratulations to you owners for owning the coolest sub available. I say this as I'm trying to get on your good side, as I hope to buy it off of you two years from now. __________________

26 July 2010, 06:38 AM	#56
ersnyder 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Eric Location: Long Beach CA USA Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 4,102	If the economy keeps circling the drain, I may PM you well before 2 years!

26 July 2010, 08:54 AM	#57
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	I'm quite surprised the dssd hasn't got more votes considering it's simply bigger than the sub's and has more detail with the minute ticks. Looks like gmt is the favourite so far though.

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