Do you think Rolex have come up against a brick wall?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Jocke

We need a few more RUSA too, there is not enough sued peoples yet.

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

Then why produce 40mm? If its for Europeans then they must recognize we have got bigger over the last fifty years and a 40mm watch is now only suitable for Eastern customers

What about McDonald's Gold Member's?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

Then why produce 40mm? If its for Europeans then they must recognize we have got bigger over the last fifty years and a 40mm watch is now only suitable for Eastern customers

Well, 40 mm is more or less the PERFECT size for MOST wrists.........even the smaller than average ones.

It's a size which can be carried off with equal aplomb by the small and large wristed guys.

I mean, even ladies are seen sporting Subs and they do look good on them.

JJ

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I suppose so...................but then what??!! I would be very surprised if Rolex can come up with something really new and unique..........something that has a huge technical improvement to the Horological world.

JJ

Improved power reserve perhaps?

I hope they don't tamper with case sizes - 40mm is perfect for a sportswatch. Would hate to see Rolex move into the oversized PAM world or awfullness of Rado

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Puffy

Improved power reserve perhaps?

What's wrong with their current PR? Most of the new models easily top 47 hours with a full wind?

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by Puffy

Improved power reserve perhaps?

Yes 18 months will be fine so you only have to wind it at the same time you change gaskets.

[stephengreen]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, 40 mm is more or less the PERFECT size for MOST wrists.........even the smaller than average ones.

It's a size which can be carried off with equal aplomb by the small and large wristed guys.

I mean, even ladies are seen sporting Subs and they do look good on them.

JJ

Then why bother producing 31-36mm anymore?

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

Then why bother producing 31-36mm anymore?

Don't you have kids?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

Then why bother producing 31-36mm anymore?

Good question.............one which I used to ask myself very often...........until I visited Hong Kong and saw almost every other person sporting one.

In India, the 36 mm DJ is probably the most successful and sought after watch ever..............as it is world-wide.

Rolex would be DEAD without their 36 mm DJ!!!

JJ

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

In India, the 36 mm DJ is probably the most successful and sought after watch ever

JJ

Was that the reason they deport you when you say it is too small?

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Jocke

Was that the reason they deport you when you say it is too small?

You can make a mockery of even a serious thread, Jocke!!

[Jocke]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You can make a mockery of even a serious thread, Jocke!!

Sorry, it's very hard for me but I will try to behave.

[stephengreen]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Good question.............one which I used to ask myself very often...........until I visited Hong Kong and saw almost every other person sporting one.

In India, the 36 mm DJ is probably the most successful and sought after watch ever..............as it is world-wide.

Rolex would be DEAD without their 36 mm DJ!!!

JJ

And would perhaps be more complete if they produced a size for the new breed of larger customers

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

What's wrong with their current PR? Most of the new models easily top 47 hours with a full wind?

If you want to rotate between say two watches on a weekly basis which I often do then 46-48hrs don't cut it. Between running to the train and going to meetings all day i almost can't find time to properly set the time so a bit of extra PR would be great IMO

[AdrianT]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yes, but the masses that buy Rolex watches live in Asia and the Far East countries where the bone structure of these races tend to be small and more suitable for the 31 and 36 mm watches.

JJ

Hi ya JJ, I don't think Rolex will change a well proven look towards a certain market. It appears the mass market maybe in Asia but you have to take the population numbers and demographics into context. Also you will be surprise that the average wrist size in China is comparable to many Europeans. I would say Rolex may lean towards improvements in technological advances as well as experimenting with the materials they use.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

And would perhaps be more complete if they produced a size for the new breed of larger customers

Well, in all fairness, they have produced the 43 mm DSSD and the larger 42mm YM-II.

They probably feel that the 40 mm models are suitable for virtually all wrist sizes, even the very large ones.

JJ

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, in all fairness, they have produced the 43 mm DSSD and the larger 42mm YM-II.

They probably feel that the 40 mm models are suitable for virtually all wrist sizes, even the very large ones.

JJ

Yep and for those who feel eg the Sub is too small we now have the maxi/supercase

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, 40 mm is more or less the PERFECT size for MOST wrists.........even the smaller than average ones.

It's a size which can be carried off with equal aplomb by the small and large wristed guys.

I mean, even ladies are seen sporting Subs and they do look good on them.

JJ

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Puffy

Yep and for those who feel eg the Sub is too small we now have the maxi/supercase

Yep.............there you go. Rolex have been clever in maintaining the same 40 mm diameter and at the same time, getting the case all up and chunky to give us the "bigger" look.

Very clever indeed!!

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yep.............there you go. Rolex have been clever in maintaining the same 40 mm diameter and at the same time, getting the case all up and chunky to give us the "bigger" look.

Very clever indeed!!

Absolutely - my first maxicase will be the 116713 which I know you have! STUNNING watch

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Puffy

Absolutely - my first maxicase will be the 116713 which I know you have! STUNNING watch

Yes, it is a beautiful watch!!

[rxonmymind]

Here's one. How about making one that wouldn't need to be sent in to RSC for maintenance.
Least you scoff at the idea look at what Dyson did to the Eureka vacuum industry. Proved one does not need a bag AND that was a HUGE engineering accomplishment.

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Good question.............one which I used to ask myself very often...........until I visited Hong Kong and saw almost every other person sporting one.

In India, the 36 mm DJ is probably the most successful and sought after watch ever..............as it is world-wide.

Rolex would be DEAD without their 36 mm DJ!!!

JJ

Agree. These are very comfortable sizes, specially for those that don't mind our watches go unnoticed. Some of the most classic and timeless wrist watches fall under this size range, such as Patek Philippe's Calatrava models and Cartier's original Tank.

[Michael M.]

I think they should update the clasp on yacht master, come out with a GMT2c with a pepsi bezel, and a 42mm daytona.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Michael M.

I think they should update the clasp on yacht master, come out with a GMT2c with a pepsi bezel, and a 42mm daytona.

All good suggestions, Michael..............hope they happen!!

[rxonmymind]

Maybe make metals that self lubricate within the watch and by default other parts around it?

[Traveler]

Coke, Pesisi and 7up bezels for the GMT;s wider braclet for the Submariner LN and LV. SS version of the WG blue dial and bezel Submariner.

[Tools]

I think that everybody overlooks how truly progressive the Rolex Company is overall..

The latest watches have brought buyers out to line up outside waiting for one, and they've done it without producing a Limited Edition watch every year to artificially peak interest...

I don't think that we will see any major changes in those that have already been changed recently.... But there is still room for Basel surprises.. The YM, the Exp II, and even the Daytona can still provide some excitement in the watch world for the future..

To truly see their innovation, look at the Tudor line.. It has pulled away from the Rolex mother-ship with innovation, designs, current trends. It doesn't even resemble the "Rolex poor relation" styles of days gone by..

Rolex also has their hands in the engineering of Tourbillon movement technology.. As a matter of fact, if Rolex engineers had not been involved, many current watch companies would not have one in their line-up. They have also been a player in silicon technology and were teamed up to help Patek produce their silicon based hairspring ........

They are still the only watch manufacture to sponsor and pay watchmakers and watchmaking schools to turn out future repairmen for our mechanical timepieces...........

I don't think that I would put them up against that brick wall just yet...........

[Puffy]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Yes, it is a beautiful watch!!

Now we're talking

[zeuloa]

Originally Posted by stephengreen

And would perhaps be more complete if they produced a size for the new breed of larger customers

New breed of larger customer? Have we changed so much since 1945 when the DATEJUST was introduced? That's extremely fast evolution... If anything we are getting wider and heavier, specially here in the USA but that is due to actions (or lack of) rather then natural evolution. However, there is a big push against this trend therefore I see no need for Rolex to supersize all their lines to accommodate.