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Old 21 January 2011, 12:10 PM   #31
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Uh no, its not a debate. Just because you disagree makes it a debate? I care about the market price. Fact that a BNIB 3186 just sold for 8000 twice on TRF and another BNIB is 8900 means there is demand. I dont see a premium on the white milgauss... I don't see a hefty premium on the LV or SD... One day maybe, but market is the king, and the 3186 is already winning. As for people who dont buy it, cool, no one is making you. But the fact that many people do, to your astonishment, is a fact that makes this no debate at all. The day that you find a 3000 premium over MSRP over any of the models listed here beside the 3186, then come and talk to me.


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Some sellers have been pushing this combination as a future "collectible" and asking prices $1500+ over MSRP. While I'd personally love to have a GMT with a 3186 movement, I've seen several skeptical posts on TRF about these holding their value due to minimal differences between the 3185 and 3186 movements. So, yes, it is a debate.
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Old 21 January 2011, 12:25 PM   #32
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The Zenith Daytona would be my pick followed by the non lug hole SD.
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Old 21 January 2011, 12:30 PM   #33
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Doubt any will be truly collectible. However, if you want to try, pick the Rolex that no one wants to buy, the one that sits on the shelf year after year. Only a truly unpopular model could ever be collectible in the future.
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Old 21 January 2011, 02:02 PM   #34
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Old 21 January 2011, 10:41 PM   #35
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Quite frankly, I can't believe we are really guessing this. Based on my limited knowledge, I'd say the most collectible one becomes the one you buy only if and when you destroy all of the thousand others from the same series, making yours the only one.
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Old 21 January 2011, 10:44 PM   #36
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The SD maybe.
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Old 22 January 2011, 01:47 AM   #37
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I would say none but if I had to pick one I would go with the Y serial LV Sub.
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Old 25 February 2011, 04:21 PM   #38
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Probably would have to say the following 2:

Y-serial Sub LV
M-series black bezel non-ceramic GMT 3186
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Old 26 February 2011, 01:20 AM   #39
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Old 26 February 2011, 01:27 AM   #40
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Collectible and valuable are two very different things:

I'd say the SD will likely be collectible but because of production volume not so much valuable.
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Old 26 February 2011, 01:34 AM   #41
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Collect what turns you on.
I agree, Collect what you truly like, not what others tell you to buy just because it is a "good investment"
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Old 26 February 2011, 02:37 AM   #42
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I am betting it is the Rolex Ref 16710 GMT Master II with 3186 movement.

As stated... Who knows until 2030...

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Old 26 February 2011, 02:49 AM   #43
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The Platty YMI... not hugely popular, more expensive than Sub, not changed since release and I've got one!
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Old 26 February 2011, 03:10 AM   #44
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I would say the 16610 LV

imo the only special Rolex in decades

That watch was made to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Rolex icon, being the submariner.

People say non of the Rolexes made the last decades because they are mass produced.

I can't agree here

In Asia (India , China, ...) people are getting richer. The average chinese citizen won't stay poor forever. One day they will be in the same situation as Europe or the US
That means that 50% of them will earn enough to buy a Rolex

I won't say they'll all buy one but if only 1% buys one this will give us 30 MILLION new clients.
Well, if these would want to buy something special like a 16610LV .... hmmm the 50.000 or 70.000 green subs are suddenly VERY rare and not mass produced.
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Old 26 February 2011, 03:11 AM   #45
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Probably would have to say the following 2:

Y-serial Sub LV
M-series black bezel non-ceramic GMT 3186
Y and early F !!! it is the same watch, as long as it has the flat four
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Old 26 February 2011, 04:01 AM   #46
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the COSC Sub No-Dates. Submariners have proven to be the most collectible Rolexes along with Daytonas. I guess it depends when the Sub ND will go to Ceramic, but these have not had a very long production run thus far and sell far fewer than the date model. In 50 years, I can see the certified no-date subs being highly collectible because there won't be that many of them and collectors love differences on the dials. Again this is assuming that they change the no-date to the ceramic model soon, which has to happen at some point in the near future.
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Old 26 February 2011, 04:34 AM   #47
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Just buy what you want, and pre owned.
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Old 26 February 2011, 04:38 AM   #48
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the COSC Sub No-Dates. Submariners have proven to be the most collectible Rolexes along with Daytonas. I guess it depends when the Sub ND will go to Ceramic, but these have not had a very long production run thus far and sell far fewer than the date model. In 50 years, I can see the certified no-date subs being highly collectible because there won't be that many of them and collectors love differences on the dials. Again this is assuming that they change the no-date to the ceramic model soon, which has to happen at some point in the near future.
Wise words.
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Old 26 February 2011, 04:47 AM   #49
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Doubt any will be truly collectible. However, if you want to try, pick the Rolex that no one wants to buy, the one that sits on the shelf year after year. Only a truly unpopular model could ever be collectible in the future.
I second this thought. look at all the collectible vintages..they were not so popular when they were new. eg. vintage daytona
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Old 26 February 2011, 05:28 AM   #50
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the sea dweller, distant followers, ym and white gold subs...
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Old 26 February 2011, 05:36 AM   #51
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the COSC Sub No-Dates. Submariners have proven to be the most collectible Rolexes along with Daytonas. I guess it depends when the Sub ND will go to Ceramic, but these have not had a very long production run thus far and sell far fewer than the date model. In 50 years, I can see the certified no-date subs being highly collectible because there won't be that many of them and collectors love differences on the dials. Again this is assuming that they change the no-date to the ceramic model soon, which has to happen at some point in the near future.
Totally agree, my kids will be loaded!
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Old 26 February 2011, 05:48 AM   #52
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I think that there are more wishes here than there is reality....

16800's and 168000's were hardly produced at all and nobody is climbing over themselves to find one....... as well as 16700's....

Any of these watches will hit the "real collectors" watch list way before any of the other models being discussed will.....
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Old 26 February 2011, 07:08 AM   #53
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the COSC Sub No-Dates. Submariners have proven to be the most collectible Rolexes along with Daytonas. I guess it depends when the Sub ND will go to Ceramic, but these have not had a very long production run thus far and sell far fewer than the date model. In 50 years, I can see the certified no-date subs being highly collectible because there won't be that many of them and collectors love differences on the dials. Again this is assuming that they change the no-date to the ceramic model soon, which has to happen at some point in the near future.
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If the 14060 cosc is replaced this year with the ceramic jiggery pokery, which is a big possibility, then it will only have been in production for 3.5 years, which is not very long in Rolex production terms.
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