DSSD vs. 14060M comparison pics.

[KingTafari]

I've had both.. I'm a big guy and always like the 14060M more... on a NATO strap

[harrishc]

nice father and son

[le_baroudeur]

Love classic case sub !

[z32turbo]

Great comparison shots!!!!!

[capote]

Rolex has really taken a weird path with the DSSD. Can't believe the same company has produced these two watches. ND sub is great looking.

[Mutlu]

Originally Posted by capote

Rolex has really taken a weird path with the DSSD. Can't believe the same company has produced these two watches. ND sub is great looking.

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

[Paracentesis]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

They did that already with the Sub and SeaDweller. The DSSD is an answer looking for a question: IOW, it's completely redundant, especially these days with dive computers in almost universal use. Aesthetically, it's a bit of mess as well, IMO.

The 14060 looks as good as ever.

[Mutlu]

Originally Posted by Paracentesis

They did that already with the Sub and SeaDweller. The DSSD is an answer looking for a question: IOW, it's completely redundant, especially these days with dive computers in almost universal use. Aesthetically, it's a bit of mess as well, IMO.

The 14060 looks as good as ever.

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

[Grumpy Badger]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

In your original post you talked about a "true divers watch"...

In your second you are speaking about aesthetics and your preference for bigger watches.

I agree with James that the Sub and old SD were all a diver would even need and are true tool watches.

The DSSD may be an impressive piece of engineering but does not serve any purpose as a divers tool watch that isn't already covered by the Sub or the old SD.

[Paracentesis]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

http://www.scubarecords.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_diving

Sub or SD is more than adequate for any diver, and not too bulky.

If you think these watches are "girly", I suspect you are in a very tiny minority of TRF members, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. ;-)

[SeamasterGMT]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.
If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

Don't worry about people like him. The Deepsea is engineered to a greater depth than the SD4000 and the Sub. Does any diver need 12,800 ft? No.
Does any diver need 4000ft? No. The SD4000 was overkill for any diver. The Deepsea also has a lot of improvements over the old models. Don't get me wrong - I love the SD4000 and would have bought one if the Deepsea had not been launched but a few things would have always bugged me:

The crystal sticks out above the bezel - this makes it prone to chips.
The bezel insert is metal and scratches.
The clasp is crappy compared to other brands.
I would not buy a sub - they're everywhere.
As for looks - I can't see much difference except:
I like the minute markers going all the way to 60.
I like the ceramic bezel.
I like the lack of AR when it's in sunlight.
I LOVE the size including the thickness.

Give me the Deepsea any day - far less common and without a cyclops most people don't know it's a Rolex (this is a plus for me - less show).

[conrail]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

The SD and the Sub did that already....really??? Couldn't disagree more.

The DSSD proves that Rolex has not lost its ability to create something truly inspiring.

Not sure what is so inspiring about it... Its just a chunky Sub

Aesthetically, the DSSD is the best looking and most modern Rolex to date.

Yikes But I guess its nice that everyone has different tastes, makes the world go round.

If it wasn't for the DSSD, I would not have bought a Rolex watch, because the designs are very stale and have not changed in much too long.

This is exactly what has made Rolex the appreciated watch brand it is today - they've made a style that works and stuck with it. Perhaps you should try Invicta, they have over 100,000 different watch styles (or some overly necessary number like that).

The 40mm and smaller sizes are not very appealing either. They just look too girly, IMHO.

The most "manly" of all Rolexs, IMHO, are the vintage Subs from the 1950s-1960s or 70s. Like the Steve McQueen pic above. Theres nothing manly about wearing a 5 pound doorstop on your wrist. Bigger != better.

[capote]

Originally Posted by Mutlu

Strange comment, as Rolex has proven that they are not just all about show but about ability to create a true diver's watch.

I still don't understand why Rolex owners would not like the DSSD, especially when it makes all of the other Rolex watches look much better now.

Come to think of it the DSSD is really a step backward.

[landroverking]

Cool pics. I would take the ND Sub over the paper weight seven days a week.

[TSW]

Great comparison pics!

[Oldwilsonian]

Just find the " original gas escape valve/ring lock system" inscription totally unneccessary - think it detracts from what otherwise would be a real rugged beauty. In fact because of this I am seeking a SD instead of a DSSD... Do love the new style clasp though...

[zeppe19avr]

DSSD is very nice but I can see very few people wearing a 5 pound alarm clock on their wrist,
ya know wat I mean

[Deepsea Florida]

Originally Posted by zeppe19avr

DSSD is very nice but I can see very few people wearing a 5 pound alarm clock on their wrist,
ya know wat I mean

Cool ! Didn't know that my DSSD came with an alarm clock.......how do I use that feature pray tell ?

I do like the glidelock, I tried on a sub-c and thought the DSSD glidelock seemed more robust.

However the DSSD hovers relativly high above the wrist---trying to be careful not to bang it into anything.

[CharlieSF]

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, the wife accompanied me to try on the DSSD at an AD here in SF today. I love the DSSD, it's pleasing to look at, I love the size, I love the aggressiveness, but man, this thing is just TOO thick (for my tastes). At 6'2 250 w/ over 7.5 + inch wrist I thought this would be the perfect fit. I love the 44m diameter but the thickness (and weight) are just too much for daily wear. It felt like a paperweight with a beautiful bracelet attached to it. On paper I love this watch, just doesn't work for me personally after trying it on today. Going to continue saving for my GMTIIc. To each his own - the DSSD is still beautiful though.

[Power Play]

Really great comparison shots!

And they're both really great watches. I'm sure that they are not both for everyone but I love and wear both on a regular basis. You know, like bermuda shorts one day and twill shorts the next.....

[Megalobyte]

I don't dislike the 43-44mm size, I like the overall design of the DeepSea, but, I think it's just far too thick, enough that it looks kind of weird, silly almost, and the relatively thin, strongly tapered bracelet certainly doesn't help.

My Pam 24 is very thick but the DS is noticeably thicker still, as it must be to go down 3900m + 25%. Also, the Pam's 24mm lug width helps it where the deepsea's fairly narrow lug/bracelet width accentuate how thick/tall the watch is.

Which brings me to this: Maybe 3900m wasn't quite necessary.

I wish Rolex had made the DeepSea a 2000m watch, only slightly thicker than the Sub, perhaps 42-43 mm diameter case, less tapered bracelet. Until something along those lines comes to pass, I'll happily wear my girlie Sub C. :)

The pre ceramic Subs did strike me as just a hair too small, for me, I'm 6'8, size 17 feet, so I'm a larger watch kind of guy, but the Sub C surprised me when I tried one on, it didn't look small, not large either, as Goldie Locks might say, it was just right. If the Sub C didn't exist and I had to choose between a 16110 or a DS, i'd probably get the DS and live with the height, but the Sub C does exist, and to me, it's the best of both worlds, and divers.

[blackout]

I Love my DSSD! As I do my Sub! Cant wait to get my wrist in one of the new "42mm" EXPII's!

[dooder202]

Yeah , the DSSD is a HUGE watch, makes the 14060 look like a toy for a child.

[Megalobyte]

Originally Posted by dooder202

Yeah , the DSSD is a HUGE watch, makes the 14060 look like a toy for a child.

How many Chuck E. Cheese tickets is a Sub C anyway?

[zak98]

nice! the 43mm size is perfect. could be a little thinner for my taste, but still love it!

[OneMoreSi]

I love how passionate people get about the DSSD - positives and negatives.
You could draw parallels with a Bugatti, a totally over engineered car, struggles with speed bumps, carrying passengers, two tone paint job etc, but you still admire what it is capable of.

Each to their own.

[conrail]

WOW that DS is really a monster - I had no idea it was that much chunkier than a Sub. Too chunky for my taste, I'll take the classic-shaped Sub (pre maxi case) all day long.

[vukotab]

These pictures are great reminder for me why I love 14060M so much.
Perfect watch with perfect looks and perfect size.
There`s nothing wrong with DSSD, it`s great piece of engineering, but too bulky and thick for my taste.

[RJK]

The bracelet taper could definitely be improved, but the downside is the clasp would have to be thicker too. I can tell you that my Sinn has less taper to their U-1000 and thicker & overall larger clasp and the Rolex’s version is a bit more comfortable. Since the Rolex version is thinner, the clasp doesn't get in the way as much. With that said, I don't like the taper much either, but it is so nicely finished. The workmanship is very nice to look at.

As for complaints about weight or "wall clocks"...seriously??? The measure of weight is in grams/oz, not kilos/lbs. If @ 215 grams is too much weight than I would suggest getting in better shape and HTFU...it's not heavy. It's like complaining that your different brands of shoes are too heavy.

A good friend of mine injured his left arm/shoulder serving & protecting our country overseas. He cannot lift anything heavier than 5 lbs with his left arm anymore. He wears a Brietling Emergency everyday on his left arm. I know the specs don't necessarily show it, but I had both my DSSD and his EM in my hands and his felt significantly heavier than the DSSD...so if somebody that can't even lift 5 lbs anymore can do it without issue....I'm just sayin'.

[Megalobyte]

I'll agree the DS isn't too heavy to wear. You want heavy, wear a UTS 2000m diver, yikes! But, while the weight isn't all that bad, it's that height I can't seem to warm up to. It's funny, I always used to prefer the larger, chunky type divers, was certain the DeepSea was the only Rolex I could wear, and I tried to get one, but the right deal never quite happened, then I tried on the Sub C in the Caribbean and was very surprised I liked the size, I never would have thought it would be big enough for me, given that I always felt pre ceramics were just too small, so when the right deal for a C came up I took it and I'd have to say, the C has helped me see the wisdom of watches that are a bit thinner and more wearable, and I seem to now be less interested in the large chunky hard core diver's, and more interested in watches that are a little more subtle and wearable. When I think of that UTS 2000m I wore, and sold, I smile, and wonder how it was that I actually used to like that over the top sort of diver.

I dont hate the DS, I just prefer the Sub, and if anybody can pull off a DS it's me, size 17 feet, imagine how big my hands are, and yet, the Sub looks just right on my 7.75" wrist. I guess everything's relative, because now my 44mm vintage collection Aquatimer and my Pam 24, also 44mm seem large-ish to me, my B&M Capeland S Chrono I wouldn't wear as it seemed too small, now oddly seems just fine. :)