Why I've decided to leave TRF

[advocatia]

Adrian: As a old friend from TURF I would urge you to directly address your concerns to either the offending party or the mods via private PM. Try that first.

I personally see no problem with General Forum posts about other hobbies such as pens, knives or guns. Its like television. If a particular show offends you, there are 300 other channels. You can even block obnoxious posters, I believe.

I am not sure what you are referring to regaring intolerance for other countries/cultures. That type of post has no place here. There's no quicker way to create problems than talk of politics or religion.

Please reconsider.

[Gaijin]

Really sorry to see you go.

[BiG JeEzY]

I'm really sorry to see you go as well. I just joined a little over a week ago and after reading Uncle AJ's post, I've started to really think about what he had said. I kinda feel guilty now since I am a new member and one of the people he could possibly be talking about could be me. I feel guilty that he is leaving the forum. But I have always been very courteous to everybody and have answered many member's questions and given them kind feedback. This is such a nice place, I have not seen any offensive comments at all whenever Im logged on here.

I remember that Uncle AJ was one of the TRF members to have given me a very warm welcome on my first post. I thank him very much always for that. I just hope that I am not one reason why he is leaving. I wish you the very best buddy and hope to see you back online soon...

[ianmedium]

Hi Adrian.
I am new here, this is only the second forum I have joined. I left the last one because of the exact thing you mention.
The rambo's of this world have got us into the position we are in now, a great deal of unrest and violence. Yet the Rambos of this world continue to bully with their words and god help you if you disagree!
Well, a message to the Rambo's(you know who you are!) decent people have had enough of your immature biggoted outlook on life, Why don't you go find somwhere else to spout your words I can assure you you will not be missed!

To the Adrians of this world. I applaud you for making a stand, from what I have read this forum is on the whole a place of good people . Let's let the good people have a say for once.
Please stay Adrian, your knowlege and humour is a great asset. and to the Rambos, well, I for one have had enough of what you spout, your desire for free speach is at a huge cost to others

Just my two cents worth.

[GrandDaddy]

WOW! Some people are painting with a very broad brush here my friends.

Just because someone is a gun enthusiast does not make him a Rambo or a psycho. Maybe he’s just exercising his rights per the 2nd amendment - that is something you cannot take away from him. I know on the “other” board, your post will be deleted if it has a picture of any firearms. I was really surprised when I saw pictures of guns here, I even asked in my earlier posts and was told it was okay. I am a gun enthusiast and have several guns and rifles (I can probably buy three more sports model Rolex if I sell some of them). I carry a pistol for protection of my family and myself. I shoot inanimate objects (read: mostly metal and paper targets) for fun and practice BUT I DO NOT HUNT/KILL ANIMALS FOR FUN NOR FOOD! Yes, there are psycho gun owners who are just waiting for any excuse to shoot someone, be it someone stealing their hub caps, beer from their pick up bed, etc.

I believe in live and let live that’s why even if someone is into pink high heels and tights I won’t hold it against him. Whatever floats your boat, YMMV.

Yes, the world is crawling with racist rednecks, but that's not gonna stop me from doing what I like doing - I like shooting and I like Rolex(es).

P.S., I have not posted any pictures of my guns and I don’t think I’ve even talked about my guns here (until now).

[ianmedium]

Originally Posted by GrandDaddy

WOW! Some people are painting with a very broad brush here my friends.

Just because someone is a gun enthusiast does not make him a Rambo or a psycho. Maybe he’s just exercising his rights per the 2nd amendment - that is something you cannot take away from him. I know on the “other” board, your post will be deleted if it has a picture of any firearms. I was really surprised when I saw pictures of guns here, I even asked in my earlier posts and was told it was okay. I am a gun enthusiast and have several guns and rifles (I can probably buy three more sports model Rolex if I sell some of them). I carry a pistol for protection of my family and myself. I shoot inanimate objects (read: mostly metal and paper targets) for fun and practice BUT I DO NOT HUNT/KILL ANIMALS FOR FUN NOR FOOD! Yes, there are psycho gun owners who are just waiting for any excuse to shoot someone, be it someone stealing their hub caps, beer from their pick up bed, etc.

I believe in live and let live that’s why even if someone is into pink high heels and tights I won’t hold it against him. Whatever floats your boat, YMMV.

Yes, the world is crawling with racist rednecks, but that's not gonna stop me from doing what I like doing - I like shooting and I like Rolex(es).

P.S., I have not posted any pictures of my guns and I don’t think I’ve even talked about my guns here (until now).

Thanks for a balanced post, much appreciated. I know though that this is an international forum so as you will appreciate in some countries there are different laws, this will I guess add to the confusion.
I appologise to anyone I may have offended in my Rambo remarks.
I do not however take back one word regarding the racsit remarks and the implications therof. Quite simply there is no place anywhere IMHO for racsist derogetory remarks about any persons homeland, culture, relgious beliefs and sexual preferences(straight or gay)

Once again, thank you granddaddy for your informed intelligent post

[Mrdi]

Oh Poop,
A fellow sailor in the drink.
Toss him a line mate.

[leopardprey]

Ian, all I did was state some facts about South Africa and what the current situation is. Speaking out against evil is never wrong. If you want to be offended go to the Jokes forums. You are the one in your post that have been degragatory and assuming. Calling and implying someone is a rascist or an immature bigot is pretty strong and you better have something to back it up. Telling someone they ought to leave the forum and will not be missed, shows yourself to be the one that is insulting. Don't be so oversensitive. If being "Rambo" is defined as someone who is a gun enthusiast, likes to hunt, and/or was in the military, then that would define probably about half the people on this forum. I think some need to remember this is the "Open Discussion" forum where "Friends" can get together to discuss various topics of interest. If you are not into guns, cars, computers, international affairs, photography, etc.. then just do not not open or participate in that thread. ANd BTW, speaking out against a moral wrong, perversion, or social injustice is not "rascist".

[mickiratt]

Geez, I have seemed to miss alot today. I am regretful to see such turmoil. The only thing I could add is that we all have to remember that the large cultural diversity of this forum is it's STRENGTH. There is room here for everyone who wants to be part of it. I've said it before, this is a great group of people and I love the personality of this board.

As we grow, we may need to try and be a little more senstive to others. I don't think there are many here who would purposely try to offend another, but sometimes in our whackiness, things could easily be misunderstood. Hopefully, we can all move forward from this!

[leopardprey]

I would really like to see someone give links to or quote these so called rascist or bigoted Post, outside of the Jokes section, that some are finding so offensive. I mean yeah, in the jokes section there is always something to offend someone (hec, recently there was a joke by a moderator about a Black guy with a 2x4 up his ass looking like a Fudgesickle). Then there are all the sheep jokes, and sexist stuff about women, or provocative photos, etc.. But where are the major insults to someone's country, culture or ethnicity - other than maybe a little jest between friends the way men tend to joke around with good friends? Where are these things that are said in this forum, that you could not say in Public? I know I personnally would have no problem repeating anything I have posted here on this forum in public.

I think some are jsut being too oversensitive and Politically Correct.

AJ and Tardis, I do hope you both stay on this forum. If there are post by members of this forum that you don't like then ignore or PM the poster directly with your concerns.

[Lol-x]

Rule 5 of the forum rules is invoked, and rule 6 applies too!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=11242

[Gedanken]

Adrian, I'm sorry to lose you as a member, and I do hope you'll reconsider. If you've made up your mind, I'll unwillingly respect that, but please do talk to any of the other mods or myself, and I hope we can work through these issues.