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Old 1 May 2012, 11:12 PM   #1
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That's so ! So no one should buy a ROO because the chrono movement isn't a "ground up" chrono? Blahhh!

I would guess even here in the WIS dom world you would be hard pressed to find a potential buyer who wouldn't purchase a ROO beause the movement in an AP ROO isnt engineered enough!

Poppycock I say!!



David, I assume you are responding in good humor, otherwise I must say you misinterpreted my post, which was--by the way--merely intended to give the OP a possible technical perspective he may or may not have considered: specifically, the choice between an integrated chronograph movement (Daytona) versus a modular ("piggyback") one (AP ROO chrono).

Far from saying the movement in the ROO was poor or lacking, I praised the AP 3120 base caliber--but it's simply fact that the 3120 was conceived by Audemars first as an engine driving 3 hands and a date. The Rolex 4130 in the Daytona and the FP 1185 in the AP ROC are both highly acclaimed chronograph calibers that are fully integrated and meant to power a chrono from the first imagining. Just simple technical facts, which may or may not be of interest to someone measuring these two fine watches as contenders for their collection.

Snotty "purist" that I apparently am (ok, guilty I guess ), I personally prefer a fully-integrated chronograph (and *sniff* one with a column wheel instead of slideway switching, while I'm at it) when prices go north of 10K but admit a modular one can work perfectly well too: ya spend's yer dinero and makes yer choices, yes? For me, that'd be a Daytona or AP ROC instead of a ROO chronograph. But someone else might not care about such technical blather, and find the ROO's style and swagger irresistible. And ya know, no one would be wrong.

Well, I suppose that's enough poppycock and rubbish from me. Time to go admire the 3120 in my 15300 RO, lest I be accused of excessive hatin' on Audemars Piguet. Heavens forbid!


PS: Ever wonder why PP--who many here would drop down on both knees and praise as "The Most Prestigious Watchmaker in the World", has never employed or manufactured anything other than a fully-integrated chronograph caliber controlled by a column wheel for their chronograph watches? (And VC....and the resurrected A. Lange & Sohne brand....and Richard Mille....and, *gasp* even lowly Rolex...) Damn purist snobs!!
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Old 2 May 2012, 12:14 AM   #2
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David, I assume you are responding in good humor, otherwise I must say you misinterpreted my post, which was--by the way--merely intended to give the OP a possible technical perspective he may or may not have considered: specifically, the choice between an integrated chronograph movement (Daytona) versus a modular ("piggyback") one (AP ROO chrono).

Far from saying the movement in the ROO was poor or lacking, I praised the AP 3120 base caliber--but it's simply fact that the 3120 was conceived by Audemars first as an engine driving 3 hands and a date. The Rolex 4130 in the Daytona and the FP 1185 in the AP ROC are both highly acclaimed chronograph calibers that are fully integrated and meant to power a chrono from the first imagining. Just simple technical facts, which may or may not be of interest to someone measuring these two fine watches as contenders for their collection.

Snotty "purist" that I apparently am (ok, guilty I guess ), I personally prefer a fully-integrated chronograph (and *sniff* one with a column wheel instead of slideway switching, while I'm at it) when prices go north of 10K but admit a modular one can work perfectly well too: ya spend's yer dinero and makes yer choices, yes? For me, that'd be a Daytona or AP ROC instead of a ROO chronograph. But someone else might not care about such technical blather, and find the ROO's style and swagger irresistible. And ya know, no one would be wrong.

Well, I suppose that's enough poppycock and rubbish from me. Time to go admire the 3120 in my 15300 RO, lest I be accused of excessive hatin' on Audemars Piguet. Heavens forbid!


PS: Ever wonder why PP--who many here would drop down on both knees and praise as "The Most Prestigious Watchmaker in the World", has never employed or manufactured anything other than a fully-integrated chronograph caliber controlled by a column wheel for their chronograph watches? (And VC....and the resurrected A. Lange & Sohne brand....and Richard Mille....and, *gasp* even lowly Rolex...) Damn purist snobs!!
I was replying in good humor...

My point was while you are correct in your evaluation of the functional construction, 99.5 percent of potential buyers would;

A) Have no idea what a column wheel or any other technical features of the movement may be or

B) if they do know, would care.

I consider myself pretty well informed about horology and do understand the functionality but it was never a thought when considering purchasing my ROO. Not saying as you mentioned there may be a few "purist snobs" out there who would, but IMHO they are a fraction of the population who would purchase an AP was all I was saying.

I would go one step further and guess 99.5 percent of salespeople at an AD wouldn't even know what kind of chrono function any watch has or the difference in them.

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Old 1 May 2012, 01:54 PM   #3
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I would trade. I prefer it over the Daytona. The no date kills me.
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Old 1 May 2012, 02:01 PM   #4
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Well, there is a reason I personally back a black dial Rubber Clad, Deepsea and GMT II C lol... Wanted a Daytona, but just way too small for me, always loved them however.

Rubber Clad? Just classic, nothing feels like one on the wrist ! Go for it, you can always get a Daytona, and dare I say, for a good deal...

Rubber Clad's are going up, and well AP's in general.. They are solid piece's and you can always get another Daytona
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No way!

If I really wanted another watch that I couldn't afford without giving up something from my current collection, the Daytona would be one of the last to go. The lack of a date initially annoyed me, but you easily get use to that. And it's slimmer profile, lighter weight, and more rounded edges make it far more comfortable on the wrist than all my other Rolex's. And with a white dial, it's comfortable in any situation. I'd prob trade in my green Milgauss or Hulk Sub before I traded in my Daytona for another watch.
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Old 1 May 2012, 03:10 PM   #6
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Old 1 May 2012, 03:39 PM   #7
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No way! This is all down to personal taste but the AP R-C is not my scene! You have to like the watch in the first place.
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How can you just come up with this question ,of course not.
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Thank you guys for your opinion, after make up my mind I think I won't trade my daytona for rubber clad. I will save some cash to buy it without sacrifice my daytona.
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Old 1 May 2012, 04:56 PM   #11
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Thank you guys for your opinion, after make up my mind I think I won't trade my daytona for rubber clad. I will save some cash to buy it without sacrifice my daytona.
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Thank you guys for your opinion, after make up my mind I think I won't trade my daytona for rubber clad. I will save some cash to buy it without sacrifice my daytona.
Hey, an even better option!
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Hey, an even better option!
Thank youu, I'll try to save my pocket money when I get back to my univ.
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Old 1 May 2012, 05:00 PM   #14
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That's so ! So no one should buy a ROO because the chrono movement isn't a "ground up" chrono? Blahhh!

I would guess even here in the WIS dom world you would be hard pressed to find a potential buyer who wouldn't purchase a ROO beause the movement in an AP ROO isnt engineered enough!

Poppycock I say!!
Me for instance...
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Gabriel, just sent you a private message. Thanks.
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Old 1 May 2012, 07:26 PM   #16
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I would keep the Daytona....just don't care for the Rubber Clad...howver the standard RO chrono with black or brown dial is AMAZING!! Still no trade, but I know what I'll be buying myself for Christmas!!
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Seems to be a proper load of pocket money ;)

But the investment seems sensible enough, more power to you!
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Old 3 May 2012, 09:03 AM   #18
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Seems to be a proper load of pocket money ;)

But the investment seems sensible enough, more power to you!
I want to spend some of money that I save frm my pocket money for watch. I'm truly like watches, too bad in my age.
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Nice, I would!
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Im gonna have to go with the Rubber Clad . Just tried one on the other day, and the daytona doesnt compare IMO.
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