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Old 30 November 2012, 11:46 PM   #31
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The serial number No8520 is a known fake (poor SOB who has that real number).
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Old 30 November 2012, 11:48 PM   #32
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Also judging by the chewed up screws on the back, the opened it up for some reason. This is owned by an AD???
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Old 30 November 2012, 11:55 PM   #33
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Guilherme, this is the second time you've posted a fake AP ("from a friend") on TRF. May I kindly ask that you refrain from posting such garbage anymore? At the very least you may want to rethink buying anything from your friends in the future as they seem to be peddling trash.
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Old 30 November 2012, 11:55 PM   #34
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yup it's a fake. aside from the date. if you take a close look, the AP logo ain't in the right position as against the tapisserie dial.
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Old 30 November 2012, 11:59 PM   #35
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Also judging by the chewed up screws on the back, the opened it up for some reason. This is owned by an AD???
No, this is a dealer in the gray market. I've bought some watches from him and never had any problems... I really don't know what is going on. If this is really a fake one I will be extremely disapointed and will never buy anything from him!

I'll talk to him right away and ask for explanations!
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Old 1 December 2012, 12:09 AM   #36
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No, this is a dealer in the gray market. I've bought some watches from him and never had any problems... I really don't know what is going on. If this is really a fake one I will be extremely disapointed and will never buy anything from him!

I'll talk to him right away and ask for explanations!
I'd avoid him in the future. I hope you didn't buy your RC from him and would get anything you bought from him checked for authenticity. The problem with dealing in fakes is a question of credibility.
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Old 1 December 2012, 12:14 AM   #37
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Guilherme, this is the second time you've posted a fake AP ("from a friend") on TRF. May I kindly ask that you refrain from posting such garbage anymore? At the very least you may want to rethink buying anything from your friends in the future as they seem to be peddling trash.
I'm trully sorry about that. This watch is from the same "friend", as I judged him till now. Actually he deal watches. The reason I post here is just to know your opinions and learn more.

This is my second post of a "fake" AP wich you noticed and thaks TRF and God I didn't buy any, because if I wasn't a member I would probably own a fake watch for the price of a real one.

Just hope you understand my position. If I was an expert, I would teach you guys how to spot a fake one from the real one, but I'm not. That's why your opinions are important to me. Unfortunatly in Brasil whe have some "smart ass" wich wants to fool you.

And at last, but not least, if i knew the watch was garbage, I wouldn't consider buying it, don't you agree?

Thanks again for all the polite anwers and opening my eyes concerning this dealer!
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Old 1 December 2012, 12:22 AM   #38
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I'd avoid him in the future. I hope you didn't buy your RC from him and would get anything you bought from him checked for authenticity. The problem with dealing in fakes is a question of credibility.
Fortunatly I bought my RC from a real friend! I would stick to my RC, cause I know that is real! One day I'll buy a Panda, but a real one!!!

Thanks again to all of you and I'm really sorry if I've caused someone any kind of disturb!
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:09 AM   #39
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I'm trully sorry about that. This watch is from the same "friend", as I judged him till now. Actually he deal watches. The reason I post here is just to know your opinions and learn more.

This is my second post of a "fake" AP wich you noticed and thaks TRF and God I didn't buy any, because if I wasn't a member I would probably own a fake watch for the price of a real one.

Just hope you understand my position. If I was an expert, I would teach you guys how to spot a fake one from the real one, but I'm not. That's why your opinions are important to me. Unfortunatly in Brasil whe have some "smart ass" wich wants to fool you.

And at last, but not least, if i knew the watch was garbage, I wouldn't consider buying it, don't you agree?

Thanks again for all the polite anwers and opening my eyes concerning this dealer!

Glad we can help, I am also glad you did not get fooled and lose money...

If I may ask can I see some more pictures of the RC also? Sides and back.. Something doesn't seem right with the dial.
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:16 AM   #40
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Glad we can help, I am also glad you did not get fooled and lose money...

If I may ask can I see some more pictures of the RC also? Sides and back.. Something doesn't seem right with the dial.
It seems to me that it could also be a FAKE based on the color of the luminova on the numbers and the shape of the number 2.
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:16 AM   #41
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Biggest clue is the datewheel position, look at the first pic of the two ROOs and you can see the problem. The RC looks OK to me but case back thickness will confirm.
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:19 AM   #42
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It seems to me that it could also be a FAKE based on the color of the luminova on the numbers and the shape of the number 2.
Exactly why I am asking.... The dial is wrong, coloring, numerals and lume application.

Unfortunately, I think this also happens to be a fake.

I truly hope you are posting out of sincerity and not trying to fool any of us here!
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:24 AM   #43
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Old 1 December 2012, 03:25 AM   #44
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Considering that the OP has posted other FAKES in the past, if he doesn't post the additional pictures then we will know there's something weird!!!

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Old 1 December 2012, 03:28 AM   #45
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Considering that the OP has posted other FAKES in the past, if he doesn't post the additional pictures then we will know there's something weird!!!

I don't even think we need additional pics. Something is not right with that RC. They are both fakes, that dial is 100% not AP nor is the bezel and its material.

Time to go!
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:37 AM   #46
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I don't even think we need additional pics. Something is not right with that RC. They are both fakes, that dial is 100% not AP nor is the bezel and its material.

Time to go!
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Considering that the OP has posted other FAKES in the past, if he doesn't post the additional pictures then we will know there's something weird!!!

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Exactly why I am asking.... The dial is wrong, coloring, numerals and lume application.

Unfortunately, I think this also happens to be a fake.

I truly hope you are posting out of sincerity and not trying to fool any of us here!
Ok wise guys, there you go the pics of my RC! I just want to remind you all you have been judgeing a "fake" or "real" watch from pictures, and I've already seen you made huuuuuuuuuge mistakes. But I'll wait for your judgment!

THE JUDGMENT DAY!







I don't have time to waist posting fake watches pics...

If you need any more pics, please let me know!
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:38 AM   #47
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:44 AM   #48
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If you have judged right or wrong, I heard your opinions and since I'm not an expert, I've made my decisions based on what you've said.

That's why I didn't buy the White Themes nor the Panda, but did buy the RC in the pictures since I got it from a friend, with all docs!
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:48 AM   #49
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^That is a different watch and also a different strap.
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:59 AM   #50
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I've chaged the straps to see how the Panda looks in rubber.
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^That is a different watch and also a different strap.
AND a different camera!

The dealer lives in another city, has one Panda, one RC and I have my RC. I told him to change the straps so I can look at it in a real way, not just imagine.

My RC is the one in the last pic's. The others are my dealers, or my ex dealer!

By the way, waht is your judgement in the E serial AP???

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Old 1 December 2012, 05:16 AM   #51
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Why wouldn't you disclose this info prior to being called out? IBTL!!
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Old 1 December 2012, 05:35 AM   #52
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Why wouldn't you disclose this info prior to being called out? IBTL!!
Because it was not in question... The topic was about wich one I should stick to. That's why I posted the picture. Then someone started the discussion about the fake watch and ended here...

I disclose these pics and info now because some guys were telling I should be banned... I had to defend myself, so I sent pics of MY watch and fully explained what happened.

Since I posted the pics of my watch, no one said anything about being a fake or not. I'm still waiting for that.
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Old 1 December 2012, 05:39 AM   #53
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AND a different camera!

The dealer lives in another city, has one Panda, one RC and I have my RC. I told him to change the straps so I can look at it in a real way, not just imagine.

My RC is the one in the last pic's. The others are my dealers, or my ex dealer!

By the way, waht is your judgement in the E serial AP???

Something smells

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around here!!!

Mods, I think this thread should be locked please. Thanks.
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Old 1 December 2012, 05:44 AM   #54
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Maybe the expertise have gone too far!

The information I wanted, I get it: Panda is the one! And much, much more!

I think this thread should be locked too!!!
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Old 1 December 2012, 06:54 AM   #55
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Good catch!

The Panda in the pics is 110% fake.
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Old 1 December 2012, 11:10 AM   #56
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I'll tell you what Gcampagnone - you send me via PM the full details of this dealer...name, address, ....all info immediately. They are a faker...and need to be dealt with. Do this ASAP - if you do not PM me this info I will have no option but to remove you without warning.

I will then take the matter further and will make all information available as this community deserves protecting from the type of scum that flog this crap. It makes me sick.

As far as I'm concerned your posts here do not make sense at all.

You're posting two watches and asking us which one you should stick to....The clear inference being that the Panda is the one that's not yours....but you own the other.

You tell us that you have changed the straps on the Panda.

The Panda is subsequently identified as being a fake by our fantastic community here.

Then...they both are.....

Now neither of them are yours or in your possession and you post another watch altogether. How convenient.

All in all this adds up to BS as far as I and others here are clearly concerned.

So - do as I ask and it will be investigated.

If you do not then I'll show you the door.
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Old 1 December 2012, 04:49 PM   #57
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Hmmm I missed this thread, I 100% agree with Dalip and others. Your actions on this forum do not suggest legitimate intentions.
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Old 2 December 2012, 12:58 AM   #58
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Ok wise guys, there you go the pics of my RC! I just want to remind you all you have been judgeing a "fake" or "real" watch from pictures, and I've already seen you made huuuuuuuuuge mistakes. But I'll wait for your judgment!

THE JUDGMENT DAY!

I don't have time to waist posting fake watches pics...

If you need any more pics, please let me know!
I call bullshit.

Your first pic and "your" second pic.

Out of respect to my fellow mod, you're banned when he returns. Otherwise I'd clip you now.

Shame on you for passing your crap for good.

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Old 2 December 2012, 01:03 AM   #59
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And that's the final nail

Thanks Paul
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Old 2 December 2012, 01:24 AM   #60
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Holly molly !!!! Another good job from the TRF squad
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