The Rolex Submariner (current model Pre-2010)

[3266]

The two lines of writing on the dial is for the Non COSC (Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified - Rolex talk for Swiss Chronometer).

While the 4 lines of text is for the COSC Version - Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres, the Official Swiss Chronometer Testing Institute, which is the institute responsible for certifying the accuracy and precision of wristwatches in Switzerland.

The four lines of text is just a marketing ploy really, since the Explorer I uses the same movement (3030) as the 14060M Non Date Sub and is an Official Swiss Chronometer.

Proving the fact that any Rolex can be made into an Official Chronometer with a bit of tweaking. Not to mention the Fact that this is 'Rolex' we are talking about - So premature failure of the movement is something you need not be to concerned about.

I myself prefer the cleaner and more classic look of the Non COSC - Looks more 007!!!

[greekbum]

Submariner

[Autobot]

Originally Posted by greekbum

Submariner

Is there anywhere where I could find something like this (the 3-4 pages of stats) for the 16610 version of the Sub? Thanks

[mustangbrad]

Great writeup. That black sub lools nuts. Almost want to buy over an older blue face.

[JohnnyT]

Thanks for the info, I am planning on buy a sub for my first Rolex.

[paultran]

the all gold sub is very nice!!!!!!!!!

[04mach1]

Originally Posted by paultran

the all gold sub is very nice!!!!!!!!!

+1 Very sharp looking Sub...

[yipidee]

Good day sirs...
I have a question regarding my 2010 sub 14060M......the serial number starts with the letter X.... which i learned from researching that the series X started around early 90s......im confused......
I hope to hear from you guys soon.....thanks a lot in advance

[krbarnes]

This is what I want for my 2nd Rolex!!

[miamiman]

Im glad to hear that the nd sub is gonna be a collector ,im glad i kept mine. i remember when nobody wanted them including the dealers...

[geoff_rolex]

Nice photo's.

The submariner is my favourite model. I am looking to buy one, but cannot decide on the LV or the regular black bezel date model. I think the LV is a bit more eye catching and the green is a bit different, and i much prefer the maxi hour markers and the larger minute hand - but im not sure if the green will go out of fashion over the years and the black bezel would be a safer bet?

I'd be interested to hear the opinions of fellow sub fans.

Im new to this site so excuse my crude use of terms!

[sexner]

Originally Posted by geoff_rolex

Nice photo's.

The submariner is my favourite model. I am looking to buy one, but cannot decide on the LV or the regular black bezel date model. I think the LV is a bit more eye catching and the green is a bit different, and i much prefer the maxi hour markers and the larger minute hand - but im not sure if the green will go out of fashion over the years and the black bezel would be a safer bet?

I'd be interested to hear the opinions of fellow sub fans.

Im new to this site so excuse my crude use of terms!

Welcome to TRF, Geoff.

You should probably try the different models on and see which you like best.

[Dent]

Originally Posted by geoff_rolex

Nice photo's.

The submariner is my favourite model. I am looking to buy one, but cannot decide on the LV or the regular black bezel date model. I think the LV is a bit more eye catching and the green is a bit different, and i much prefer the maxi hour markers and the larger minute hand - but im not sure if the green will go out of fashion over the years and the black bezel would be a safer bet?

I'd be interested to hear the opinions of fellow sub fans.

Im new to this site so excuse my crude use of terms!

I too am new to TRF, welcome aboard! I was drawn to the 16610 LV but wasn't quite certain so I had a local AD transfer one to their inventory for only $100 refundable deposit. I can tell you that by experiencing the feel of the watch on your wrist and comparing them side by side (LV and LN) it was a no brainer for me to choose the LV (green bezel). The green bezel and the maxi-dial just really appealed to me. Go and experience the watch in real life to further intice yourself. It's a great feeling!

[deserted]

Great info....Thanks for sharing

[joeychitwood]

I'm new to this site and am trying to research my watch. I've owned my gold and stainless Submariner since 1992. The serial number begins with an "X." I have no paperwork for the watch, just a 2008 appraisal done at the Rolex jeweler.) I have it regularly cleaned and polished.

My question is this: how do I ascertain the model number (at least I assume these are models numbers) of my watch? I see references to 16610, 16613, etc. and their relationship to weight and jewels, but is there an easy way to find out what my watch is? Can anyone tell just by looking at a photo? Thanks for any information you can give me.

[Iron Dealer 1]

Remove the bracelet. The model number is stamped on the watch, at the 12 or 6 position

[joeychitwood]

Originally Posted by Iron Dealer 1

Remove the bracelet. The model number is stamped on the watch, at the 12 or 6 position

Thanks. That was easier than I thought. Two minutes and a toothpick at the 12 o'clock end reveal that it is a 16613.

[inLine4]

Originally Posted by joeychitwood

Thanks. That was easier than I thought. Two minutes and a toothpick at the 12 o'clock end reveal that it is a 16613.

Love the bling!

[JRA21]

Nice Pictures by all !!!!!!!

[trophy]

i've bought my first rolex last sept. 6, and of course its a long time dream a sub. i chose SUBMARINER LV, v series, with the rolexrolexrolex engraving at the rehaut. i really like the green bezel signigfying the 50th anniversary of this wonderful watch. i also love the black maxi dial , which makes it easy for me to tell the time because of the big hands and green dots that exudes in the black dial. i also have a Tudor Hydronaut, the one with the black carbon fiber dial and black bezel. when i bought this, i said to myself that sub will be my next watch... and thanks God i am wearing it right now. im looking forward on my next crown, it maybe a YM platinum or Submariner bluesy TT, whatever it is only TIME can tell.

[ArcticMoose]

I just bought my first Rolex, after spending about four hours at the dealer over two days.

At first I was sceptical of the more royal blue, not to mention the gold, compared to what I've been wearing for the last 13 years, a titanium Eco-Drive with navy dial. I am quickly getting used to it.





I was surprised to not find any etching on the glass, or any markings on the back of the case, and also that the bracelet squeaks. Should I be concerned?

This was a bit of an impulse purchase, which is uncharacteristic for me. Before I purchased my latest car I spent a year trolling forums, and another couple months lamenting over options and colors.

[Pablo Escobar]

Originally Posted by ArcticMoose

I just bought my first Rolex, after spending about four hours at the dealer over two days.

At first I was sceptical of the more royal blue, not to mention the gold, compared to what I've been wearing for the last 13 years, a titanium Eco-Drive with navy dial. I am quickly getting used to it.



I was surprised to not find any etching on the glass, or any markings on the back of the case, and also that the bracelet squeaks. Should I be concerned?

This was a bit of an impulse purchase, which is uncharacteristic for me. Before I purchased my latest car I spent a year trolling forums, and another couple months lamenting over options and colors.

There is the standard etching on the glass at 6 O'clock. However there are no markings or holographic stickers on the V series. I am yet to see a counterfeit 2010 V Sub TT

[ArcticMoose]

Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar

There is the standard etching on the glass at 6 O'clock. However there are no markings or holographic stickers on the V series. I am yet to see a counterfeit 2010 V Sub TT

I can't see any etching at all on the glass, or did you mean the V series does not have that either?

Are there any photos available of the box, certificates, manuals, etc that should have come with it?

[luvsub]

Great information, thanks for sharing.

[TSW]

Awsome write up & great pics!!

[Jason Judd]

Why are the 'RED' subs so much more expensive? What is the difference between those and the non-Red model?

I'm just learning about the Subs, and haven't been able to figure this one out!

Thanks,

Jason

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Jason Judd

Why are the 'RED' subs so much more expensive? What is the difference between those and the non-Red model?

I'm just learning about the Subs, and haven't been able to figure this one out!

Thanks,

Jason

The only difference is that little bit of red paint.........

[Iron Dealer 1]

That is a beautiful piece...enjoy it!

[icnbne]

hey guys, my 16613 has a SEL, with TT clasp, yet it has lug holes.. is this normal?
the watch is 2001/2002

[Tools]

Originally Posted by children

hey guys, my 16613 has a SEL, with TT clasp, yet it has lug holes.. is this normal?
the watch is 2001/2002

Yes, quite normal........ the changeover was in the 2003/2004 time frame.....