The reason why Rolex was unable to create a blue & red bezel

[IAN1]

Rolex....please make a Pepsi GMT!!!!!!!

[waQstar]

Pepsi is jut not going to happen, however coke is on it's way!

[jctrolex]

Originally Posted by kilyung

Not to mention Hublot released a red ceramic bezel last year.

http://www.ablogtowatch.com/hublot-c...ly-watch-2013/

Ouch Mike, I made the mistake of clicking on the link and my eyes are still hurting.

[77T]

The Rolex patent filing has something more to keep one awake pondering Baselworld 2014...

My highlights...

"The major objective of the invention is to propose an alumina-based opaque ceramic, similar to ruby and having mechanical properties, in particular toughness, which are good enough to enable it to be used in watch and clock making, for example for producing parts constituting the outer parts of a watch, such as a bezel, a case or a bracelet, which are exposed to the elements and to impacts."

Could there be more Red than a bezel insert coming???

[RolexDivers]

I do not think it is true.. They can make blk/blue insert so why not red/blue? I am sure they can make, they probably made it but it got voted down as resurrection of something old. The new management at Rolex wants to go in a new direction and abandon old color schemes... that's what I am thinking based on what I see.

[SUBversive]

Red and blue make purple.

[RolexJNJ]

Just like they brought back the orange hand on the Exp II, I am certain we will see the resurrection of the pepsi.

[laphroaig007]

They can make Blue/black because they can have the blue becoming black through industrial process. That is not possible with blue/red......
So they could make only red, but they're still searching for the way they can have both red and blue on a bezel...

[Dan Pierce]

No matter how many color combinations Rolex comes out with in the future it will be cost prohibitive as well as much more complicated to change the inserts, or complete bezel assembly, compared to the classic and super versatile 16710.
dP

[Clutch Cargo]

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they develop a manufacturing process to produce Coke and Pepsi bezels. If they can do it now, it would be a good business decision to wait a year or two to introduce them, so it wouldn't cut into the sales of the BLNR.

[mgent]

How have sales of the BLNR been? They may stop production of Blk/Blue, and introduce Blk/Red for a few years, then stop and introduce Blu/Red... keep demand for each high through somewhat limited production....

[Ru4scuba]

Originally Posted by 77T

The Rolex patent filing has something more to keep one awake pondering Baselworld 2014...



My highlights...



"The major objective of the invention is to propose an alumina-based opaque ceramic, similar to ruby and having mechanical properties, in particular toughness, which are good enough to enable it to be used in watch and clock making, for example for producing parts constituting the outer parts of a watch, such as a bezel, a case or a bracelet, which are exposed to the elements and to impacts."



Could there be more Red than a bezel insert coming???

Why not? Everybody else is doing it...but that seems kinda drastic for a company where change comes slowly.


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[rmfnla]

Us bloggers tend to make a big deal out of the things we like...

That should be We bloggers...

[77T]

Originally Posted by rmfnla

Us bloggers tend to make a big deal out of the things we like...



That should be We bloggers...

"Me agree"

--- Bizarro Superman's way...

[improviz]

Originally Posted by imran16520

The blue black is created by starting with a blue ceramic bezel and adding particles to half the bezel to turn it black


This is "easy" as black is a dominant colour and to illustrate if you take blue paint and add enough black it if course goes black


Now think about Pepsi
If you tack blue , you can not turn into red or vice versa as both are prime colours, here lies the problem


However now that Rolex have made a ruby red ceramic the same process as the blue black can be done

So a coke is most likely

Imran

This.

[Nidal]

Originally Posted by Fiery

I don't think it's true...



http://www.ablogtowatch.com/hublot-c...ly-watch-2013/



Plus, IMHO Rolex is holding off with the red-blue bezel until they figure out in which form would they release it. My tip would be it would come as exclusive to a WG GMT IIC or Pt GMT IIC.



Edit: Mike was faster

Amen to that. Agree 100%

[Nidal]

[zama]

I'd rather have a root beer..........

These are always such emotive threads, i think all the colour combos work, and I would be happy to have any of them old or new.

[ocabj]

I'm more likely going to believe the statements of the author of the article in question. I actually had a conversation with him at Westime in Hollywood before Christmas and he had mentioned the issue of red ceramic and if I remember his exact words correctly, Rolex *is* working on red ceramic. It's not that Rolex isn't going to do it because red is too hard to make. They're just trying to get the process perfect such that they can make the red ceramic without any flaws in color consistency.

Considering he does have more access in the industry than most people, I'm going to put some faith in that he's being journalistically truthful in conveying the information he has been privy to, and therefore have some belief in what he's stating.

[laphroaig007]

The main issue is not manufacturing red ceramic, but rather combine both red and black (or red and blue)...
IMHO

[RolexDivers]

Maybe rolex already made it, but waiting for the 50th Anniversary
of the GMT?

By the way, when is the 50th anniverssary of the GMT or is it long past?

Is this green/blk insert shown above the real deal or photoshop?

IF it is real, then Rolex is just playing around with the GMT color combos.
They need to stop all this nonsense color combos and stick to the orgiinal
PEPSI...

[RolexDivers]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

No matter how many color combinations Rolex comes out with in the future it will be cost prohibitive as well as much more complicated to change the inserts, or complete bezel assembly, compared to the classic and super versatile 16710.
dP

Very very true... the more I see modern ceramic Rolexes, the more I want the classic ones for their ease of use. This ceramic insert nonsense I just do not like...

[RolexDivers]

Originally Posted by laphroaig007

The main issue is not manufacturing red ceramic, but rather combine both red and black (or red and blue)...
IMHO

They can combine blk/blue and from the image aboe, blk/green so why not red/blue? or red/blk? color is color... why should the colors behave any differently?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

No matter how many color combinations Rolex comes out with in the future it will be cost prohibitive as well as much more complicated to change the inserts, or complete bezel assembly, compared to the classic and super versatile 16710.
dP

X2 On that one Dan, and in the real world ceramic inserts have not got a real advantage over the aluminium ones.Sure some will say they have more scratch resistance and less fade perhaps that's true but what a extra price to pay.And in my experience with Rolex watches over the past 30 odd years the only inserts to show some sort of fade over many years were mainly the blue red.But if they did fade or get scratched so easy and cheap to replace myself used two as proper tool watches for many years yet only one insert replaced cost then just 30 odd pounds.

[Casey VP-26]

Thanks for the Article.

[improviz]

Originally Posted by RolexDivers

They can combine blk/blue and from the image aboe, blk/green so why not red/blue? or red/blk? color is color... why should the colors behave any differently?

This has been mentioned in this thread a few times previously and in every other thread that has come up on this topic, but here goes: the problem is the color mixing. The way the blue/black is made is that they start with a solid blue bezel and darken one side. That is eminently doable, because you can start with any color and make it black (which is why, eventually, I believe there will be a Coke model of the GMT).

But blue and red are both primary colors. This means that no other colors can be mixed to make them, but rather they are what are mixed to make other colors. So you cannot start with a red bezel and make half of it blue, or vice versa, it's physically not possible. To do red and blue you'd need to have two different pieces of ceramic in each color and hold them together, pretty much impossible to do with ultra-thin ceramic as is put in these bezels and ensure longevity.

[laphroaig007]

GMT 50th anniversary is over...
GMT was launched first in 1954, as reference 6542.
50th anniversary saw the new GMT with larger case and ceramic bezel, launched in 2004-2005...

[strafer_kid]

I am sure a company as innovative and creative as Rolex could turn out a blue and red ceramic is it chose to!

[114FE]

Enamel ( ceramic) has been used in Jewelery for centuries.
Multi colour enameled pieces exist which endured hard usage and abuse.
It no doubt is just a case of not wanting to upset a winning marketable item

[RolexJNJ]

Simply irrestible