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Old 22 May 2008, 02:34 PM   #31
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...Hummmm...

...If... Rolex S.A, Geneva, CH.-... had this dial especially made/written for Hafez Assad the "dearly" departed ex-president of Syria.???
- I will dress...as a transvestite...and walk the streets of Tokyo....eternally...lol.
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Old 23 May 2008, 02:31 AM   #32
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...If... Rolex S.A, Geneva, CH.-... had this dial especially made/written for Hafez Assad the "dearly" departed ex-president of Syria.???
- I will dress...as a transvestite...and walk the streets of Tokyo....eternally...lol.
Err buddy Anastasios...please clarify what you really wanted to say...or implying...?

or perhaps would you have a better translation to the Arabic Scripts printed on that SD Dial...?

or perhaps you might wanna imply that the SD Dial with NO ( - ) is...not right...?

or perhaps there could be something else which you have in mind...to say...?

Please tell...in your honest opinion.
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Old 23 May 2008, 04:19 AM   #33
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Err buddy Anastasios...please clarify what you really wanted to say...or implying...?

or perhaps would you have a better translation to the Arabic Scripts printed on that SD Dial...?

or perhaps you might wanna imply that the SD Dial with NO ( - ) is...not right...?

or perhaps there could be something else which you have in mind...to say...?

Please tell...in your honest opinion.
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Hey Orchi :

I see a real McCoy there....
The more I look, the more I become sure of, I am looking at a real dial seemingly inscribed by mfg for a head of state.!!!
Notice the "RED" lettering used resembles what is inscribed by MFG on the GMT II Master dials.
Lack of (-) may be a subtle sign...you figure....

Now, about the Transvestite dude, If he decides to come out of closet, "ROPPONGI" not all Tokyo streets, is recommended for likes....
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Old 23 May 2008, 04:24 AM   #34
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Err..buddy Orchi... After many days and nights of research...I believe I have the actual meaning of the red writing on the dial...

I may be a little off, but it translates to:

"Send just to it JJ"

or, JUST SEND IT TO JJ...........

now the countdown to a JJ post "How did I get dragged into this one..."
Exactly!! How the hell did I get dragged into this one?

But that "Made in China" comment was hilarious!!
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Err buddy Anastasios...please clarify what you really wanted to say...or implying...?

or perhaps would you have a better translation to the Arabic Scripts printed on that SD Dial...?

or perhaps you might wanna imply that the SD Dial with NO ( - ) is...not right...?

or perhaps there could be something else which you have in mind...to say...?

Please tell...in your honest opinion.
I'm guessing Anastasios is saying that Rolex didn't put the red text on there. It was probable done afterwards, but it is a real Rolex, which still goes to say that your dial is most likely real!
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Old 23 May 2008, 05:15 AM   #36
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Very interesting face. I hope you get to the bottom of the mystery and share with us.
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Old 23 May 2008, 07:00 AM   #37
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Hey All....this is the dude...LOL
The dial is 100% real.......the red writing is home made.
Let's assume that Rolex did indeed "write" this dial it would have been in the
Riqa script which is normal for Europeans when they depict Arabic writing
and not in the Ta'liq or Thuluth scripts.
............NEXT
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Old 23 May 2008, 01:34 PM   #38
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Hey All....this is the dude...LOL
The dial is 100% real.......the red writing is home made.
Let's assume that Rolex did indeed "write" this dial it would have been in the
Riqa script which is normal for Europeans when they depict Arabic writing
and not in the Ta'liq or Thuluth scripts.
............NEXT
Err buddy Anastasios...thanks for this clarification of your previous comments...

As Orchi pointed out earlier that...minus the Arabic Script(in RED) on that SD Dial...n when you say...the Dial is 100% real...it would mean that Rolex has in fact produced...in rarity...such SD Dials with NO Hyphen ( - ) between the "SEA DWELLER" plots...could you also mean to say that this particular Dial that Orchi has now...would be 100% real n correct also..?

Please tell...TQ.






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The red letters says: Don´t forget to pull off the pyjamas before you jump in the water.



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Old 23 May 2008, 02:02 PM   #40
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The red letters says: Don´t forget to pull off the pyjamas before you jump in the water.



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Old 23 May 2008, 02:21 PM   #41
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Shedlock concurrs with the third person adressing, and feels that its sufficient for me, myself and i as it is, and any attempt to speak in the fourth person, would just be plain silly.!!

Carry on!

Excellent and interesting thread by the way.
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Old 26 May 2008, 05:43 PM   #42
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Hey All....this is the dude...LOL
The dial is 100% real.......the red writing is home made.
Let's assume that Rolex did indeed "write" this dial it would have been in the
Riqa script which is normal for Europeans when they depict Arabic writing

and not in the Ta'liq or Thuluth scripts.
............NEXT
Err buddy Anastasios...appreciates further feedbacks from you...

The next picture show a DateJust Dial which has Arabic Scripts in RED as well..

Would you say whether...this is in Riqa Script...or Taliq...or in Thuluth...? Please advise...
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Old 27 May 2008, 12:03 PM   #43
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Orchi,

The scripture is "NOT in Farsi" as erroneously stated earlier.
Not to beat a dead horse, but I never said the quotation was in Farsi. If you read my post again you will see that what I actually said was that it is written in Arabic, but not in traditional Arabic script, more in the Farsi style of writing. That is what script means. It is not about language, but style...and also has absolutely nothing to do with scripture whatsover...scripture implying religious writing.
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Old 27 May 2008, 12:07 PM   #44
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The next picture show a DateJust Dial which has Arabic Scripts in RED as well..

It says "Mohammed bin Rashid Al-Maktoum" translated as "Mohammed, son of Rashid Al-Maktoum". I believe this is the name of the current ruler of Dubai.
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Old 27 May 2008, 05:13 PM   #45
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It says "Mohammed bin Rashid Al-Maktoum" translated as "Mohammed, son of Rashid Al-Maktoum". I believe this is the name of the current ruler of Dubai.
Err buddy Badr... thank you very much again for the translation...

Could you also identify whether the style of that scripts or calligraphy is in Riqa...Tariq or Thuluth...?

Orchi read that Riqa scripts is the common Arabic easy style of writing or printing...while Thuluth or Tariq would be the old style of writing or calligraphy which is more complex n beautiful...

It would appear that both these dials(shown in pics) were printed in Riqa scripts or style of writing...

The Arabic Scripts printed on the DateJust Dial...which you have translated to belong to the current Ruler of United Arab Emirates(UAE)...is said to be the Original Service Replacement Dial...that comes with the DateJust watch...

Oh btw...Orchi just received an email which is believed to be sent from the current owner of the Sea Dweller who lives in Italy...that has the Arabic Scripts in RED...named after the Former Ruler of Syria...Commander Hafez Al-Assad...

The email stated that the SEA DWELLER(without Hyphen) n its Arabic Scripts plot was originally produced by Rolex Factory on precise request of the Petitioner in Syria.

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Old 28 May 2008, 12:12 AM   #47
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I'm guessing Anastasios is saying that Rolex didn't put the red text on there. It was probable done afterwards, but it is a real Rolex, which still goes to say that your dial is most likely real!
Err buddy Mik...Orchi is pleased to inform everyone in here...that Orchi has just received another very important email which would shed the brightest light onto this pending issue that is related to the specific Ref 16660 "SEA DWELLER"(note: without "-" Hyphen) Dial...which has the RED Arabic Scripts...named after the "Commander Hafez Al-Assad" who was the Former President of Syria.

The very important email is originally sent to Orchi from the kind & generous...Mr. James Dowling himself...or popularly known as "Mr. Rolex" to the many Rolex Vintage watches enthusiasts...worldwide...

Is there anyone in the house...who would be keen to know what the email says...?

Orchi shall be back...
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Old 28 May 2008, 01:22 AM   #48
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Old 28 May 2008, 04:33 AM   #49
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Err buddy Badr... thank you very much again for the translation...

Could you also identify whether the style of that scripts or calligraphy is in Riqa...Tariq or Thuluth...?

Sorry Orchi, I am not familiar with the technicalities of Riqa or Tariq, etc. I am sure there will be others on this board more knowledgeable.

Also, the ruler of Dubai is not the same as the ruler of UAE. Dubai is just a part of UAE.
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"Made in China"
I almost spit out my Tootsie Roll on that one!
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the dial is not a fake i have sen it in Padova Italy at a specialist shop under the name Tempus the tel is 0039 049 8711578 the adress via savonarola 158 check with him he can give you detials and an estimate!
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the dial is not a fake i have sen it in Padova Italy at a specialist shop under the name Tempus the tel is 0039 049 8711578 the adress via savonarola 158 check with him he can give you detials and an estimate!
Err buddy Chirvan...thanks for your kind feedback...

Please advise whether the Specialist shop which you mentioned...could it be...
TEMPUS DOMINI - Orologi da Collezione(located in Padova Italy)...?

Please advise...
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Err buddies...sorry for the delay...

In his kind email reply to Orchi...Mr. James M. Dowling says...

"Hi Orchi,

I have seen the SD without the hyphen before.

The arabic script is done by Rolex, I have images of a 16550 with the same text that does not have any other text on the dial, so it must have been done by Rolex.

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Err...a special note of thanks in here also to...Mr. James Dowling for helping Orchi out...on this matter...
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I thought at first the red letters translated as "tosser".. but I could be wrong...
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It says: Rais Hafez Al-Assad. In Arabic, Rais or Raees would loosely be translated as "leader" or in this specific case "President". So the translation would be: "President Hafez Al-Assad".
Yup, right on the money.
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...Hummmm...

...If... Rolex S.A, Geneva, CH.-... had this dial especially made/written for Hafez Assad the "dearly" departed ex-president of Syria.???
- I will dress...as a transvestite...and walk the streets of Tokyo....eternally...lol.

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Err buddies...sorry for the delay...

In his kind email reply to Orchi...Mr. James M. Dowling says...

"Hi Orchi,

I have seen the SD without the hyphen before.

The arabic script is done by Rolex, I have images of a 16550 with the same text that does not have any other text on the dial, so it must have been done by Rolex.

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Err...a special note of thanks in here also to...Mr. James Dowling for helping Orchi out...on this matter...

Anastasios, my friend, I did not bring this thread back from the dead.

BUT I find it very amusing

I now have conflicting statements from two Rolex Gods...

I am imagining a wristwatch duel between James and Anastasios in the streets of Tokyo, and we know what the loser must do

I'm suggesting a Tokyo GTG complete with hi-def video to be posted on YouTube of said duel... Stasios, exactly how long does a Greek define eternally to be???
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I am voting for JJ to be the referee in the historic duel.. With a Haka War dance from him at the begining..

it is nice to see such an interesting dial in a post.
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Could anyone guess the value of that watch from the original post?
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