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Old 28 May 2015, 08:28 AM   #1
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I disagree Tom.

Without my wife's support over the past 30 years I certainly wouldn't be where I am today.

I know you are kidding.
How true.

My dear wife has besides being a rock and inspiration for me, pushed me to become more involved, work harder and complain less.

It's not my company "I own" it's "ours".
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Old 27 May 2015, 08:58 PM   #2
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Old 27 May 2015, 09:01 PM   #3
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:21 PM   #4
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Well done Ruud,

After reading post 27 I was hoping you had a game this weekend.
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:33 PM   #5
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:34 PM   #6
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Well done Ruud,

After reading post 27 I was hoping you had a game this weekend.
Nah, English Premier League season just finished 3 days ago, Eddie.

(Just kidding Ruud! )
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Old 28 May 2015, 10:41 AM   #7
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Nah, English Premier League season just finished 3 days ago, Eddie.

(Just kidding Ruud! )
Looks like most of the money was made at FIFA behind the posts.
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:26 PM   #8
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You could become an illinois state trooper, then after 26 1/2 years you retire. Your pension is 80% average of your best consecutive 4years, of your last 10. I know a recent retired seargeant getting 10k a month retired. He did work lots of overtime to pump up that salary, since it's averaged into your retirement. Then you get 3% compounded cost of living adjustment, every year after 55 years of age.
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:35 PM   #9
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You beat me to it erp095. NYS Troopers average about 100k ,get some rank and ot and you'll reach your goal. I'm not far off on the FD.

If you get on the FD good pay , pension, and the time to do plumbing on the side , easily reach that number.

I'd also be surprised if that pension is offered to new Troopers in Illinois , most states have added new tiers over the years , increasing length of service , cutting out OT counting towards it, eliminating colas and such.

When I came on in '90 there were two tiers and was like that for a long time, by 2,015 there are 6!
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Old 27 May 2015, 10:48 PM   #10
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You beat me to it erp095. NYS Troopers average about 100k ,get some rank and ot and you'll reach your goal. I'm not far off on the FD.

If you get on the FD good pay , pension, and the time to do plumbing on the side , easily reach that number.

I'd also be surprised if that pension is offered to new Troopers in Illinois , most states have added new tiers over the years , increasing length of service , cutting out OT counting towards it, eliminating colas and such.

When I came on in '90 there were two tiers and was like that for a long time, by 2,015 there are 6!
There was a change to the pension back in 2011, new troops have to wait till their 60, to get their retirement, the old system is 50 years of age. It's still not a bad deal.
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Old 27 May 2015, 11:04 PM   #11
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My plumber charges $95 / hr. + materials. So if you can bill for 8 hours a day, that's $760 / day, $15,200 / mo. If you can (a) keep your expenses below $5,200 and (b) bill for those 8 hours every day, you're there. Throw in some emergency service on the weekends and you don't have to worry about billing those 8 solid every day.

And yes, my plumber is expensive - the most expensive in town. He's also the most sought after and solidly booked because he does good work, shows up on time and cleans up when he's done. People will pay a premium for that after they've worked with the other guys a few times.
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Old 28 May 2015, 03:48 AM   #12
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You beat me to it erp095. NYS Troopers average about 100k ,get some rank and ot and you'll reach your goal. I'm not far off on the FD.

If you get on the FD good pay , pension, and the time to do plumbing on the side , easily reach that number.

I'd also be surprised if that pension is offered to new Troopers in Illinois , most states have added new tiers over the years , increasing length of service , cutting out OT counting towards it, eliminating colas and such.

When I came on in '90 there were two tiers and was like that for a long time, by 2,015 there are 6!

This. When working in law enforcement at the state or federal level (and some very large cities) you can make 100k or more pretty easy.

Now, it is a decent amount of money... Not Platona money but you can be smart and comfortable with your finances.
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Old 27 May 2015, 11:16 PM   #13
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I have family in the business you can clear 10-15k http://sweetfactory.com/franchising/
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Old 27 May 2015, 11:43 PM   #14
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Old 28 May 2015, 01:09 AM   #15
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Old 28 May 2015, 01:10 AM   #16
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So you don't think any of us here make over $10k/month
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Old 28 May 2015, 01:58 AM   #17
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So you don't think any of us here make over $10k/month


I started making a list of all the 'luxury' products that have probably made me less well-off than I should be... but then quickly stopped!
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Old 28 May 2015, 12:03 AM   #18
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Old 28 May 2015, 12:45 AM   #19
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Old 28 May 2015, 01:51 AM   #20
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What am I missing here...how did you come up with the 10k/month number? Is that your nut? If so, maybe you would be money ahead figuring how to reduce your living expenses...just a thought.
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Old 28 May 2015, 02:43 AM   #21
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What am I missing here...how did you come up with the 10k/month number? Is that your nut? If so, maybe you would be money ahead figuring how to reduce your living expenses...just a thought.
its just a goal, im sure making $10k a month is comfortable life style.
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Old 28 May 2015, 02:53 AM   #22
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Let me make one thing perfectly clear.

Nowhere in this thread did I say that the OP should pay ME $25 for advice.

I said that this method requiers a $25 initial investment and 4 days a month of work to reach the 10k goal which I would be happy to tell him.

The OP then said that he would have to dig deep into his banking account for the initial investment and this was not something he was prepared to do.
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Old 28 May 2015, 03:04 AM   #23
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Let me make one thing perfectly clear.

Nowhere in this thread did I say that the OP should pay ME $25 for advice.

I said that this method requiers a $25 initial investment and 4 days a month of work to reach the 10k goal which I would be happy to tell him.

The OP then said that he would have to dig deep into his banking account for the initial investment and this was not something he was prepared to do.
Buy a used set of golf clubs and make the pro tour? Compete in one event? Place somewhere in the money....boom 10k lol

The 12 hours a day of practice aren't technically work, it's golf... I've solved your riddle lol
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Old 28 May 2015, 03:12 AM   #24
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Let me make one thing perfectly clear.

Nowhere in this thread did I say that the OP should pay ME $25 for advice.

I said that this method requiers a $25 initial investment and 4 days a month of work to reach the 10k goal which I would be happy to tell him.

The OP then said that he would have to dig deep into his banking account for the initial investment and this was not something he was prepared to do.
im sorry i thought you were really asking me to pay for your talent fee thats why i refused
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Old 28 May 2015, 02:47 AM   #26
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LISTEN to People!

People LOVE to complain! Just LISTEN when they do.

Right AFTER you Listen, ask yourself: "is this a problem that I could solve for them?" "is this a common problem?" "what would it take to solve this problem for them?" "could I make 10k a month by helping them?"

People make 10k a month All The Time by helping people solve their problems. You don't have to be the Only one doing this, you don't have to be the biggest one doing this... just do it a little bit better, somehow. Quicker delivery, friendlier service, better quality, whatever! Only concern yourself with "cheaper" if the market commands that!

It may take a little while to get to 10k/month, but why stop there? Keep listening!

Good luck!
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Old 28 May 2015, 03:06 AM   #27
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LISTEN to People!

People LOVE to complain! Just LISTEN when they do.

Right AFTER you Listen, ask yourself: "is this a problem that I could solve for them?" "is this a common problem?" "what would it take to solve this problem for them?" "could I make 10k a month by helping them?"

People make 10k a month All The Time by helping people solve their problems. You don't have to be the Only one doing this, you don't have to be the biggest one doing this... just do it a little bit better, somehow. Quicker delivery, friendlier service, better quality, whatever! Only concern yourself with "cheaper" if the market commands that!

It may take a little while to get to 10k/month, but why stop there? Keep listening!

Good luck!
sounds like a great set up for a good consultant.
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Old 28 May 2015, 04:56 AM   #28
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sounds like a great set up for a good consultant.
Take it or leave it.
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Old 28 May 2015, 05:59 AM   #29
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LISTEN to People!

People LOVE to complain! Just LISTEN when they do.

Right AFTER you Listen, ask yourself: "is this a problem that I could solve for them?" "is this a common problem?" "what would it take to solve this problem for them?" "could I make 10k a month by helping them?"

People make 10k a month All The Time by helping people solve their problems. You don't have to be the Only one doing this, you don't have to be the biggest one doing this... just do it a little bit better, somehow. Quicker delivery, friendlier service, better quality, whatever! Only concern yourself with "cheaper" if the market commands that!

It may take a little while to get to 10k/month, but why stop there? Keep listening!

Good luck!
Great advice. I recently left a job after 20+ years and went out as a consultant. I work with application software...how to use it...and how to use it efficiently. I mainly have common sense, but after all these years working for the leading company in my industry, I have made myself available to their competitors, and they can use my general knowledge, but the kicker is that I already know how their businesses work...this is what gives me value.
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