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Old 8 January 2016, 02:13 AM   #1
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Lee Michaels in North Star mall San Antonio. Moretti's is the only other AD off of 281.

Now you know I am stalking you!
Is Dennis Jewelry still an AD? They've always been great to me. Don't see them listed on the rolex.com anymore though.
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Old 8 January 2016, 10:39 AM   #2
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Is Dennis Jewelry still an AD? They've always been great to me. Don't see them listed on the rolex.com anymore though.
Nope...
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Old 7 January 2016, 07:08 AM   #3
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That salesperson should be working next door...
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Old 7 January 2016, 07:12 AM   #4
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You should provide their name and number so we can call and mock them. Jackwagons.
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Old 7 January 2016, 07:14 AM   #5
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You should provide their name and number so we can call and mock them. Jackwagons.
see my post almost certain this is lee michaels fine jewelry located at north star mall in San Antonio.
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Old 7 January 2016, 04:40 PM   #6
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I wonder how that strategy is working for them
...I do not think it does..
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I've seen that piece at numerous ADs, and everyone of them would have been happy to "wrap it up" on the spot...wonderful sales strategies, oh so clever

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That's just nuts. Maybe if you offered to cook a meal for them?
So that is what I forgot!
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Baffling. Why wouldn't they want to make a precious metal sale?
Beats me!
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Where is that?
San Antonio, TX
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That line really works...makes me want to buy 2 watches min from an AD!

Lame
Agree!
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Gotta love those strong sales strategies.

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They must like having it in their display case so much they don't want to part with it.
Sooooo true!
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Same dumb response on the same model!!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...range+response

I actually wound up talking to the manager, that could not apologize enough for her "misinformed staff"...

Chicago suburbs area by chance?
TX here...
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Honestly, I do not understand this strategy at all. Even if you are hoping to set aside the piece for a "valued" client/customer, there is nothing logical about not selling a piece that you can replace in stock easily by ordering more from Rolex HQ.
I agree! Someone shows up, ready to buy, and no buyers....no brainer!!!
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Hahaha...totally crazy!!
Ohhhh yes!
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To give up a sale in hand for a perceived one is crazy!
Totally agree. Crazy indeed.
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Lee Michaels in North Star mall San Antonio. Moretti's is the only other AD off of 281.

Now you know I am stalking you!
Spooky! Yes, spot on on AD.
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That salesperson should be working next door...

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You should provide their name and number so we can call and mock them. Jackwagons.
Hmmm....not a bad idea
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see my post almost certain this is lee michaels fine jewelry located at north star mall in San Antonio.
Bingo!
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Old 10 January 2016, 06:31 AM   #7
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Ask them for a Sub, GMT, DJ or whatever Rolex. Pay for it and ask for the YM again
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Old 11 January 2016, 01:18 AM   #8
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see my post almost certain this is lee michaels fine jewelry located at north star mall in San Antonio.

Let the beatings commence lol.


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Old 11 January 2016, 03:04 AM   #9
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At this point all the regular clients have surely gotten the call or email it is available. If they wanted it they would have made their move by now one would think. Yep....not a good sales strategy.
Not at all. Lousy indeed.
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Interestingly, I had the complete opposite experience at the same AD in San Antonio, and have also visited both locations (North Star and La Cantera). At NS, I dealt with a slightly older woman (the manager jumped in as well, and I think he thought I would rather deal with him, but really she was doing a great job) and at La Cantera I dealt with one of the sales guy without issues. I wonder why they showed such poor salesmanship to the OP.

I will tell you that most of these salespeople are trained to spot certain things and (right or wrong) will make certain judgments on the spot about the likelihood of someone being able (and willing) to buy a given piece. It's a reality of life and sales and service everywhere, even if completely off/wrong.

In any case, the idea that an AD would refuse to sell a piece because they are only willing to sell it to previous customers is downright silly. Money is money, regardless of whose wallet it comes from, so I am really surprised (and, disappointed?) to hear this kind of story.
I tried both locations and got the same answer. Sad 'reading' of the customer. I remember one time at Neimans, someone shows in shorts and flip flops only to buy a pair of socks. No one is there to help. Finally someone does and the customer pays with Amex black card. The look on the sales person was priceless!
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"This is a Big Mac. But you can buy it only if you bought French fries from us in the past."

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In the San Francisco Bay Area and Silicon Valley, no sales associate would ever judge customers by how they look. That scruffy guy in the hoodie and jeans you just turned down a sale of a $32,000 Patek might have been a young CEO of a tech company that just got $90M in venture fundings.

I don't run a $90M unicorn company but plenty of time I've walked into various ADs with jeans and an old Star Wars tee-shirt and received the utmost friendliest and courteous services.

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just crazy
Sad but true.
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Yep. Reveal.

I would have asked to speak to the manager, and tell them you're not sure if you'd be a customer but now you definitely will not.
I thought about it, but to be honest, I was tired (ok, needed a drink) so I figured a glass of scotch would be a better time investment at the moment.
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For the watches that are harder to find, my AD has the same policy. He saves them for his regular customers. Makes good sense to me.
It is, but if you have some sitting there, it means all the regulars have been served....at least IMHO
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Bad sales tactics for a gold watch IMHO.
Understand that SS watches fly off the shelves but is RG that good selling in US?
It is, just because they get 1 or 2 only.
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Ask them for a Sub, GMT, DJ or whatever Rolex. Pay for it and ask for the YM again

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That's Just Wrong!
It is.
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That sounds like a really smart move on that reference lol. Guessing they must not have a strong client base with these type of policies.
...I guess so.
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I would question how could they possibly know?

Does the sales person remember every person who has purchased from them?

I think I'd of gone on the attack there "I am a previous customer and I want to buy that watch" what they going to do - go through all previous sales records? Bit awkward?

Certain AD's do seem to have an air of elitism about them which doesn't lead to the most comfortable experience. I thankfully have a rather good relationship with my AD and she is really nice.

As someone else said "money is money" doesn't matter who it comes from!
...maybe ypu have to wear your 'I am a custmer' t-shirt?

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You might ask, how do I buy my first from you if I need to have purchased one before?
Hmmm....interesting and true!
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Yeah, they must be flying off the shelves like every other PM model.

"We can only sell you one if you've bought from us before...and it had to have been a RG YM." They remind me of that rug store in TV commercial...the one that has only one rug, and it's not for sale. They must be the "Rolex" dealer, not the "Rolexes" dealer.

Good chuckle to start my day.
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Old 7 January 2016, 07:13 AM   #10
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:26 AM   #11
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Well if they have one sitting there it means none of their "regulars" wanted it and it should be up for first come at that point
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:32 AM   #12
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Very funny AD, good business model
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:38 AM   #13
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If they were really stuffy they would demand to see your watch, car keys, bank statement, and your address before letting you even look at a Rolex.
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:36 AM   #14
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Well that sucks...even for an AD.
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:41 AM   #15
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I bet they say that to all their customers on all their watches; promotes a feeling of elitism and an ever shrinking customer base.
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Old 7 January 2016, 08:47 AM   #16
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Doesn't make any sense.
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Old 7 January 2016, 09:00 AM   #17
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They should give their head a shake, they are not the only ones in town. Morons
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Old 7 January 2016, 09:07 AM   #18
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If I really wanted the watch, this is what I would have done.

I would tell the lady ok, I'll buy two watches right here right now.

She would have to sell you the one you want.

Slap it on your credit card, walk out the door, turn right around and return the one you didn't want.

Then tell her... there are so many ways to skin a cat.
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Old 7 January 2016, 12:01 PM   #19
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This kind of response just begs to have you 'take the piss' with the salesperson.
"So - this model is hard to get? They had one at X, Y, and Z recently."
"Have you been selling watches long?"
"Pity, I guess it must be tough for you to meet your sales targets - you DO have sales targets?".
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Old 7 January 2016, 12:08 PM   #20
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I actually encountered the same mentality in Cabo re: a SS Daytona. Wanted me to buy a watch for the wife before selling me a Daytona. We walked out without purchasing anything. Ironically had he sold me the Daytona I would have had to buy the watch the wife wanted as well
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Old 7 January 2016, 12:27 PM   #21
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That is just so absurd.
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Old 7 January 2016, 04:44 PM   #22
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Well if they have one sitting there it means none of their "regulars" wanted it and it should be up for first come at that point
I agree! It is nonsense! It even gets worse, went to their second location (La Cantera) and got...THE SAME RESPONSE! so it is a 'corporate answer'
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Well that sucks...even for an AD.
Ohhh it does!
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I bet they say that to all their customers on all their watches; promotes a feeling of elitism and an ever shrinking customer base.
Well, that is getting nowhere. Fast. Real fast.
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Doesn't make any sense.
Not at all!
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If I really wanted the watch, this is what I would have done.

I would tell the lady ok, I'll buy two watches right here right now.

She would have to sell you the one you want.

Slap it on your credit card, walk out the door, turn right around and return the one you didn't want.

Then tell her... there are so many ways to skin a cat.
That would be fun! I have actually played a game on situstions like these....will disclose privately...
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This kind of response just begs to have you 'take the piss' with the salesperson.
"So - this model is hard to get? They had one at X, Y, and Z recently."
"Have you been selling watches long?"
"Pity, I guess it must be tough for you to meet your sales targets - you DO have sales targets?".
Pretty Woman at Rodeo Drive comes to mind
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I actually encountered the same mentality in Cabo re: a SS Daytona. Wanted me to buy a watch for the wife before selling me a Daytona. We walked out without purchasing anything. Ironically had he sold me the Daytona I would have had to buy the watch the wife wanted as well
I know the feeling. They try to hard to push for the sale, when pulling is so much easier.
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That is just so absurd.
It is!
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Old 8 January 2016, 10:56 AM   #23
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Did you see a line of people waiting to buy one? I supposed not. Some business people are so silly, it's amazing they can even run a business. A statement like that pretty much guarantees a customer won't ever return to that store.
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Old 7 January 2016, 11:57 PM   #25
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Did you see a line of people waiting to buy one? I supposed not. Some business people are so silly, it's amazing they can even run a business. A statement like that pretty much guarantees a customer won't ever return to that store.
Both stores were empty!
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Old 8 January 2016, 12:08 AM   #26
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Two words: Trusted Sellers.

I found them and never looked back. Unfortunately they can't get the Rolex Magazines so I have to kiss a little ass.

Thank God for TRF and Trusted Sellers.
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Old 8 January 2016, 02:44 AM   #27
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Two words: Trusted Sellers.

I found them and never looked back. Unfortunately they can't get the Rolex Magazines so I have to kiss a little ass.

Thank God for TRF and Trusted Sellers.
Agreed - David SW has three for sale on his website as of two minutes ago.
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Old 8 January 2016, 12:27 AM   #28
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could maybe work if a couple walked in, would be an excuse to buy a watch each

but if that was me would just go to another AD and buy 2 watches there
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Old 8 January 2016, 01:09 AM   #29
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Let's see if I understand this correctly...

If I walked in as a new customer I would be offered zero discount and they would tell me we can't sell to you because you are a new customer.

Resulting in perhaps one of our trusted sellers walking in and being happily offered the same watch for ~20 % off.

...And the secondary market is born.

Makes perfect sense.
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Some people just don't understand business... I understand they are trying to portray exclusivity, but instead they are just pushing good customers away.
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