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Old 23 May 2016, 08:31 AM   #31
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BTW - for someone who is paranoid and suspicious, why would you buy the watch first and then ask for opinions later?
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Old 23 May 2016, 09:02 AM   #32
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BTW - for someone who is paranoid and suspicious, why would you buy the watch first and then ask for opinions later?
Yeah, we've been seeing a lot of this sort of thing lately...
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Old 23 May 2016, 07:21 PM   #33
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BTW - for someone who is paranoid and suspicious, why would you buy the watch first and then ask for opinions later?
I guess we can call it Uncontrolled spontaneity...
Will keep you guys posted.
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Old 24 May 2016, 12:14 AM   #34
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I can't believe wherever you bought it they have the guts to sell this watch.

IMHO this is on borderline unsellable. No one in their right mind will put a such hideous rubber bezel on such a valuable watch, it's not a freaking g-shock for god's sake. Who knows what else the previous owner has "modified" on this watch.

If I were you I'll return it to the shop and ask for a refund, even if it means you need to pay a penalty. The time and money you're going to spend on it to make it "right" could probably get you a brand new one, hustle free.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but trust me it's coming from a good intention.
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Old 24 May 2016, 02:37 AM   #35
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Yeah, we've been seeing a lot of this sort of thing lately...
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Old 24 May 2016, 02:39 AM   #36
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I can't believe wherever you bought it they have the guts to sell this watch.

IMHO this is on borderline unsellable. No one in their right mind will put a such hideous rubber bezel on such a valuable watch, it's not a freaking g-shock for god's sake. Who knows what else the previous owner has "modified" on this watch.

If I were you I'll return it to the shop and ask for a refund, even if it means you need to pay a penalty. The time and money you're going to spend on it to make it "right" could probably get you a brand new one, hustle free.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but trust me it's coming from a good intention.
AP put the rubber bezel on as it is an AP Ruberclad
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Old 24 May 2016, 03:09 AM   #37
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Ok so first update. I got answare from ap customer service and they simply said that the bezel is worn out and would need to be changed... The authenticy they didnt question due to serial/fullset and detials of pics but they recommended me to visit ad for verification if i felt insecure.
New bezel around 1.5k. Then there is the watchmaker fees so i guess around 1.8-2k.
Little more then i expected but not way of...
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Old 24 May 2016, 03:58 AM   #38
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AP put the rubber bezel on as it is an AP Ruberclad
I know, I meant the shape of it is hideous. The most iconic feature and it looks like a Michellin now.
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Old 24 May 2016, 04:22 AM   #39
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bezel looks off but the watch with all the proof looks like its real.
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Old 9 June 2016, 06:32 PM   #40
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It's a real matching numbers watch with papers and comes with a "worn out" bezel and having said that, the screw on the RC bezel looks funny too.
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Old 9 June 2016, 10:03 PM   #41
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I'm no expert either even though I own 3 AP's (all bought from reliable sources and ADs) but the condition of that bezel would scare me off unless I were getting the deal of the century and knew exactly what a replacement would cost me. (that is after the authenticity were verified) That watch was either worn very hard or run over by a mack truck and I would be somewhat concerned about what else could have been damaged on the watch in the process of getting the bezel to look like that.
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Old 10 June 2016, 01:58 AM   #42
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OP, might just as well do à complete service while you're at it. Will surely set you back 3K or more with the bezel change. Hope you got it cheaper than the added costs and wait for service.
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Old 10 June 2016, 12:36 PM   #43
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I'm no expert, but I'm not at all convinced that this is legit. Besides the bezel, two other things look off to me.
  1. The "AP" logo at 3:00 should have black space between the "A" and "P." This looks different than every picture I've seen on the web.
  2. The seconds hand of the chrono looks stainless in the picture and I believe should be white.
Look at the side with the chrono buttons and see if the crown is lower than the pushers. If they all line up then it's not genuine.
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Old 10 June 2016, 01:28 PM   #44
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...and some people think Rolex's ceramic bezels are expensive! $1500 for a rubber bezel -- but with AP, that is to expected.
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Old 10 June 2016, 04:45 PM   #45
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I'm no expert, but I'm not at all convinced that this is legit. Besides the bezel, two other things look off to me.
  1. The "AP" logo at 3:00 should have black space between the "A" and "P." This looks different than every picture I've seen on the web.
  2. The seconds hand of the chrono looks stainless in the picture and I believe should be white.
Look at the side with the chrono buttons and see if the crown is lower than the pushers. If they all line up then it's not genuine.

I don't think it should have a black space between A and P. None of my AP's have a black space, I guess it can look black at certain angles while photographing them though.

The chrono hands was changed at later production to be metal in color, as was the sub hands to become a mix of black and metal...?
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Old 10 June 2016, 09:00 PM   #46
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I don't think it should have a black space between A and P. None of my AP's have a black space, I guess it can look black at certain angles while photographing them though.



The chrono hands was changed at later production to be metal in color, as was the sub hands to become a mix of black and metal...?


Sure photographs can be a little misleading because of angles and lighting but I also seem to recall reading that somewhere that the lack of space between the letters was a telling sign. I guess we will find out soon enough.


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Old 10 June 2016, 09:13 PM   #47
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After looking at the pics of the dial, why does each pic have a different date showing on the date dial? I also thought that the chrono hands were white on this model?

As said the only way to tell for sure is to take it to AP or open the case and look at the movement. Seems odd that a watch in such terrible shape you would not want to check it to be 100% sure its legit.
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Old 10 June 2016, 10:02 PM   #48
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The AP does look wrong. There is a groove in metap between the A and P but no actual gap, but on the ones I've seen for sale there is a distinct gap:
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Old 10 June 2016, 10:43 PM   #49
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Guys this model has been in production for a long time, this is a fairly new one being an H-serial number watch.

This model has been around for 10+ years if I'm not mistaken. I see nothing wrong with the AP logo on the dial. It's exactly what it looks like nowadays. No actual space between A and P.
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