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iLLGT2 · 25 January 2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rr-nyc

I don't get it. He plowed right into the barrier. He downshifted late and hit the brakes late but is there that much under steer or was there not enough time for the car to settle/transfer weight from back to front ?

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Originally Posted by texex91

We have no idea how fast he was really going.

My 458 did not have much understeer at all.

When you're going around a downhill corner trying to take it at a speed that is not ideal, and let's face it this guy probably had never driven a Ferrari, that all equates to serious trouble (plus we don't know he even downshifted correctly).

Bad news all around.

#pissedoffgirlfriend

All about the weight transfer under hard braking/panic then letting off throttle, not getting back on throttle.

On the track I have to modulate some cars on and off power to rotate or else you get crazy understeer (AWD cars primarily) or just cars with street tires that are overinflated and greasy

If he were to ride it out with throttle he wouldn't have plowed

Chewbacca · 25 January 2017, 02:37 PM

sergio seems fine with this...

james1787 · 25 January 2017, 03:41 PM

I would never get behind the wheel of a Ferrari without some sort of training. That is a whole lot of car if you aren't used to it.

Dr.Brian · 25 January 2017, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLGT2

All about the weight transfer under hard braking/panic then letting off throttle, not getting back on throttle.

On the track I have to modulate some cars on and off power to rotate or else you get crazy understeer (AWD cars primarily) or just cars with street tires that are overinflated and greasy

If he were to ride it out with throttle he wouldn't have plowed

That's what I was thinking. He panicked and tried to stop when he should have perhaps accelerated and hoped the tires werent shit.

Rock · 25 January 2017, 08:18 PM

That just seems so avoidable.
I would have thought a modern Ferrari would have handled that curve just fine if he had just feathered the throttle and steered through it.

MonBK · 25 January 2017, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by iLLGT2

All about the weight transfer under hard braking/panic then letting off throttle, not getting back on throttle.

On the track I have to modulate some cars on and off power to rotate or else you get crazy understeer (AWD cars primarily) or just cars with street tires that are overinflated and greasy

If he were to ride it out with throttle he wouldn't have plowed

Agree and that goes for any car not just a Ferrari.

It would be better to say he doesn't know how to drive a car than he doesn't know how to drive a Ferrari like it requires special training.

Now if it was a Koenigsegg I would agree.

77T · 25 January 2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Agree and that goes for any car not just a Ferrari.

It would be better to say he doesn't know how to drive a car than he doesn't know how to drive a Ferrari like it requires special training.

Now if it was a Koenigsegg I would agree.

Anything done in a Ferrari gets you a headline and millions of views/tweets/retweets...anything with Koenigsegg not so much

Is that what you eat with a lattè?

bayerische · 25 January 2017, 11:54 PM

Downshift inside the curve... well there's the result of that.

Or maybe he tried to stop it suddenly?

Danny83 · 26 January 2017, 12:50 AM

I dont understand how he did that

s14roller · 26 January 2017, 04:32 AM

Should have just held throttle position...curve wasn't that sharp, 458 would have handled it fine.

GB-man · 26 January 2017, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bayerische

Downshift inside the curve... well there's the result of that.

Or maybe he tried to stop it suddenly?

I gather he did both. Big

turns are for turning not shifting or braking.

sahcivan · 26 January 2017, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

Horrible and hilarious at the same time

They rent a ton of the exotics out here in Vegas, and you can't believe what I personally have witnessed being done to these thoroughbreds! But, 3hrs for $400 and you give a guy whose never respected anything like that before in his life, good chance this is going to be the end result.

One of the best parts of Vegas haha

Lucky777 · 26 January 2017, 05:43 AM

Sucks...whether he was an idiot or not, thank God nobody was hurt. Accidents happen, not saying it was right...but it does happen.

Dyim · 26 January 2017, 08:57 AM

Did the GoPro come with the car? To monitor driving?

Wonder if the front tires are no good to begin with.

Exploradori · 26 January 2017, 09:33 AM

Look ma! No hands!

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kneedeep · 26 January 2017, 01:30 PM

That wasn't an accident. That was stupidity + incompetence = avoidable collision. Glad no one suffered bad consequence of a fool's action.

kilyung · 26 January 2017, 03:21 PM

Baka

subtona · 26 January 2017, 03:46 PM

Ouch... I have to confess, that is on my bucket list.

nobbylon · 26 January 2017, 03:56 PM

Being used to rear engine 2 wheel drive air cooled there's a voice in my head saying 'slow in, fast out'. This guy is clueless.

Abdullah71601 · 26 January 2017, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by subtona

Ouch... I have to confess, that is on my bucket list.

Crashing a Ferrari?

sahcivan · 26 January 2017, 05:01 PM

kneedeep · 26 January 2017, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Crashing a Ferrari?

subtona · 26 January 2017, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Crashing a Ferrari?

Yes
Think cannonball run

enjoythemusic · 27 January 2017, 01:12 AM

That'll buff right out and is easy to fix if he has the ultimate set of tools ;)

gav329 · 27 January 2017, 03:08 AM

Looked like he accelerated towards the bend too, decelerating towards it then slight power through the bend keeps car stable and speed constant and safe assuming the speed is right prior to entering the bend. Another example too much money too little talent. And a show off to boot!!

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gav329 · 27 January 2017, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Crashing a Ferrari?

🤣🤣🤣

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Demosthene · 27 January 2017, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

It would be better to say he doesn't know how to drive a car than he doesn't know how to drive a Ferrari like it requires special training.

Midengine cars have very different driving characteristics than regular cars. The snap oversteer on Mk2 Toyota MR2's was renowned for killing teenagers for example.

MonBK · 27 January 2017, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Demosthene

Midengine cars have ver different driving characteristics than regular cars. The snap oversteer on Mk2 Toyota MR2's was renowned for killing teenagers for example.

ok.

wantonebad · 27 January 2017, 03:21 AM

To quote American Graffiti: "What a waste of machinery"

Formulansx · 27 January 2017, 07:01 AM

It was Dietrich.......yeah that's the guy!!

25 January 2017, 08:18 PM	#35
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25 January 2017, 11:54 PM	#38
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25 January 2017, 03:41 PM	#33
james1787 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: James Location: New Providence,NJ Watch: Submariner 14060 Posts: 2,371	I would never get behind the wheel of a Ferrari without some sort of training. That is a whole lot of car if you aren't used to it.

26 January 2017, 12:50 AM	#39
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26 January 2017, 04:32 AM	#40
s14roller "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,257	Should have just held throttle position...curve wasn't that sharp, 458 would have handled it fine.

26 January 2017, 05:43 AM	#43
Lucky777 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: NJ Watch: Rolex 16610 Posts: 2,160	Sucks...whether he was an idiot or not, thank God nobody was hurt. Accidents happen, not saying it was right...but it does happen.

26 January 2017, 08:57 AM	#44
Dyim "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 2,237	Did the GoPro come with the car? To monitor driving? Wonder if the front tires are no good to begin with.

26 January 2017, 09:33 AM	#45
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26 January 2017, 01:30 PM	#46
kneedeep "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Not 2 far from u Posts: 3,457	That wasn't an accident. That was stupidity + incompetence = avoidable collision. Glad no one suffered bad consequence of a fool's action.

26 January 2017, 03:21 PM	#47
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26 January 2017, 03:56 PM	#49
nobbylon Banned Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Nederlands Watch: DSSD Posts: 365	Being used to rear engine 2 wheel drive air cooled there's a voice in my head saying 'slow in, fast out'. This guy is clueless.

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27 January 2017, 03:08 AM	#55
gav329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Scotland Posts: 355	Looked like he accelerated towards the bend too, decelerating towards it then slight power through the bend keeps car stable and speed constant and safe assuming the speed is right prior to entering the bend. Another example too much money too little talent. And a show off to boot!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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