To SubC or not to SubC? That is my question.

[kangajack]

I would save up a bit, and when ready, trade the BB and cash in for a SubC. You will never regret the SubC and will quickly forget about the BB. The Speedmaster is a tougher question. I sold off my Speedie Pro and have regretted it. But the reality is, you can always pick a used one up for a good price if you want one.

While it may offend some people, the BB for many is simply a placeholder until someone can pick up a Sub. That's not a statement about everyone who picks up a BB... just a generality grounded in reality.


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[Portland]

Great suggestions all around. I should have clarified. I am looking at the date SubC (116610), not the no-date version.

The Black Bay can go as far as I'm concerned, the Speedy is the one I'm questioning letting go. It really is a cool watch and fits my wrist even better on a leather strap. But again, little wrist time. I was thinking that between the Datejust and the 116610 I'm pretty much set.

If I make a move it needs to be soon because both the black bay and the Speedy are less than 1 year old, still under warranty, and both in spectacular condition.

I looked at the 16610 as well. Someone mentioned it above. It would actually fit my wrist better due to the case construction. My reservation on that model is the aluminum bezel partly, but mostly it's the bracelet. I really like the bracelet on the new subs. The milled clasp and the glidelock make me drool.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Portland

My reservation on that model is the aluminum bezel partly, but mostly it's the bracelet. I really like the bracelet on the new subs. The milled clasp and the glidelock make me drool.

The cool thing about the aluminum bezel insert, and the 16610 overall, is it looks good as it wears and ages, and, if you do want to replace the bezel insert, it's pretty cheap. The weight of the 16610 is also noticeably lower, which I like.

I actually used to have the same DateJust as you, which I also loved BTW...and I also live in Portland.

[MCO1]

Originally Posted by Portland

Great suggestions all around. I should have clarified. I am looking at the date SubC (116610), not the no-date version.

The Black Bay can go as far as I'm concerned, the Speedy is the one I'm questioning letting go. It really is a cool watch and fits my wrist even better on a leather strap. But again, little wrist time. I was thinking that between the Datejust and the 116610 I'm pretty much set.

If I make a move it needs to be soon because both the black bay and the Speedy are less than 1 year old, still under warranty, and both in spectacular condition.

I looked at the 16610 as well. Someone mentioned it above. It would actually fit my wrist better due to the case construction. My reservation on that model is the aluminum bezel partly, but mostly it's the bracelet. I really like the bracelet on the new subs. The milled clasp and the glidelock make me drool.

If you are questioning letting the Speedy go then don't. You are right it is better on a leather strap. I wear mine exclusively on a variety of straps the bracelet hasn't been on it for quite sometime. They can all be replaced but how much can they be replaced for? Which is always the question.

[Ruud Van Driver]

Originally Posted by Portland

Great suggestions all around. I should have clarified. I am looking at the date SubC (116610), not the no-date version.

The Black Bay can go as far as I'm concerned, the Speedy is the one I'm questioning letting go. It really is a cool watch and fits my wrist even better on a leather strap. But again, little wrist time. I was thinking that between the Datejust and the 116610 I'm pretty much set.

If I make a move it needs to be soon because both the black bay and the Speedy are less than 1 year old, still under warranty, and both in spectacular condition.

I looked at the 16610 as well. Someone mentioned it above. It would actually fit my wrist better due to the case construction. My reservation on that model is the aluminum bezel partly, but mostly it's the bracelet. I really like the bracelet on the new subs. The milled clasp and the glidelock make me drool.

I think you've answered your own question right here. Get the Sub and keep the Speedy; who cares if you only wear it once a week/month/year?

As much as this answer mildly annoys me when I read it in other threads, keep all three and add the Sub providing money isn't an issue. You can always shift the BB further down the line as I would imagine any loss in value over the next year would be academic anyway, especially if it's in A1 condition.

Good luck

[SeaDweller50]

Originally Posted by Portland

Great suggestions all around. I should have clarified. I am looking at the date SubC (116610), not the no-date version.

Either or is a no brainer.

[MCO1]

I would buy the SubC and keep everything for the time being. Let the new wear off of the Sub and then see what you are wearing when the dust settles. If something is still getting ignored like the BB might be then move it along. I have learned to just let something go vs letting one go for another. The Datejust, Sub and Speedy would make a fine collection!

[HobokenRolex]

Great collection there. If you're not wearing the Speedy much, flip it and the Tudor. SubC is a fantastic watch. If it doesn't suit you, it can be flipped for not much of a loss (esp if buying used).

[jon_jon]

You have a very nice collection already with the DJ, Speedy and the BB. Adding a Sub-C would be nice. But to sell or trade in your Speedy and BB for a Sub-C, that is a tough one.

I would keep your current collection until you are 100% fine with letting go of the Speedy and BB. The Sub-C is a dream watch for you, but it is not going away anytime soon. It will still be there for you when you are ready to pull the trigger.

[Mikegp]

I get what you're saying regarding the speedy. I've owned it twice and sold it. I love the idea of the speedy, but wasn't excited to wear it, I had to force my self to use it and after a day I went back to the others.

I would get the SubC.


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[kauffee]

If the SubC is your "dream" watch, then nothing else will do. It was my dream watch and the one I started with. I considered buying a Speedy Pro many times since I could have afforded it a while ago, but every time I tried it on next to the SubC there was no comparison.

Like you, I also love the idea of the Speedy Pro better than the watch itself. I may pick one up in the future just to see how it feels, but it's hard to imagine reaching for it in the morning instead of my Sub.

But since you live in my town, if you want to make me a great deal on the Speedy I'm all ears!

[Wcdhtwn]

Wear the Speedy more than once a week and see if it grows on you. When I wear my non-Rolex watches for a few days in a row I remember why I like them so much. If you wear it for 2 weeks straight and still feel the same then make a move.

I think you should get a Sub date. Iif you flip your BB (& Speedy) for a ND Sub you might find the BB and ND are very similar and regret parting with the BB.

[sirish19]

I would replace the BB with the SubC and keep the Speedy. As you said, your tastes will change and I'd try to give the Speedy a little more wrist time, you'll learn to love it. It is a true icon and should have a place in any collection.


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[cathy liebchen]

The SubC is superior to the older models in every way

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by cathy liebchen

The SubC is superior to the older models in every way

Yeah, if you think heavier, bigger and an expensive bezel insert that can crack is better.

Wait a minute, we have an interruption. I've just gotten word from our sources...

[landosystem]

Great collection! However, I agree with the consensus above. The SubC date is a killer watch and you will not wear the Speedy or BB if you get it. Plus the DJ and Sub is a fantastic two watch collection.

[lhawli]

Originally Posted by landosystem

Great collection! However, I agree with the consensus above. The SubC date is a killer watch and you will not wear the Speedy or BB if you get it. Plus the DJ and Sub is a fantastic two watch collection.

I agree with you that the SubC date is a killer watch, but how can you make an assumption on behalf of the OP or anyone as to whether they will or will not wear a speedy if they owned one? Surely this is your personal opinion and yours only. I own the SubC date and the speedy pro and the latter happens to be the one that gets most of my wrist time. Surely I am still missing a datejust, but that's not cause I never owned one - I sold my datejust II in hopes for an SS datejust 41 (I'm an SS kinda guy).

I also agree that the datejust and sub are a perfect well rounded duo collection, but I would never rid my speedy pro, the watch I have an intimate relationship with every morning :).

That's just my personal point of view of course.


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[landosystem]

Originally Posted by lhawli

I agree with you that the SubC date is a killer watch, but how can you make an assumption on behalf of the OP or anyone as to whether they will or will not wear a speedy if they owned one? Surely this is your personal opinion and yours only. I own the SubC date and the speedy pro and the latter happens to be the one that gets most of my wrist time. Surely I am still missing a datejust, but that's not cause I never owned one - I sold my datejust II in hopes for an SS datejust 41 (I'm an SS kinda guy).

I also agree that the datejust and sub are a perfect well rounded duo collection, but I would never rid my speedy pro, the watch I have an intimate relationship with every morning :).

That's just my personal point of view of course.

lhawli, my assumption was based on the OP's statement regarding his Speedy:

"However, I find that it barely gets wrist time. I do love it, but for some reason I just don't get excited to wear it. I've never been a chronograph guy, with the exception of the Speedy. It was the first chronograph I loved enough to buy. I now wear it literally once a week (Tuesdays) and enjoy it for what it is, but as soon as I get home I take it off and put on one of my other 2 watches."

Hope that helps!

[sensui]

The collection is pretty balanced now.....I personally like the Black Bays more than the current 6 digit Sub (date or no date) due to aesthetics and the way they wear.....but it's probably a minority opinion.....so personally I would keep your collection as is.

But someone else said it best....if you're not wearing the watch because you don't fancy it....not a bad idea to trade for something you'd like......I just think you should think it through with a sub being the solution to replace the black bay.

[AK797]

I would always have a subc in my collection.

[Portland]

The Speedy is the dilemma. If it goes, the Black Bay goes. If it stays, I'm content with how things are and can wait on a SubC date.

I'm married to my Datejust.
I'm engaged to the Speedy but getting having second thoughts thinking of her walk down the isle.
I'm in a Netflix and Chill state with the Black Bay.

I like Wcdhtwn's idea of wearing the Speedy exclusively for a while and see how I feel. Some days I love it, some days I'm just "meh" towards it. Maybe if I give it serious wrist time it will sway me one way or the other.

[helson]

Don't wear the Speedy now that you don't want to risk getting more scratches because you will be selling it for a SubC. Leave it in the box. take photos and put it up for sale. I owned different versions of the Speedy myself and they just didn't do it for me. I tried to love it but I ended up wasting my money on depreciation. Get the SubC and be happy forever.

[yannis]

To Sub-C yes!

[henrylee]

I'd say you already know what you want. Just do it already. Sell the speedy and BB and get yourself a subC date! You will not regret.

[Psmith]

Sub C + your DJ would make for a nice pair.
Easy choice for me, as I'm not a chrono fan and like to have the date.

[1William]

With the trade values of any of your watches you are still going to be short of funds when it comes to a trade if you move one or two of the watches. Keep them all for now, if funds are not an issue pick up the Sub-C Date and put them all in a reasonable rotation for several months and see what you wear and what you don't. Decide what should go and sell it. If you need the funds before you can do a deal I would move the Date Just and the Black Bay. I think you can dress up the Speedy with the right strap if you want and the Sub speaks for itself.

[F1polesitter]

Originally Posted by 1William

With the trade values of any of your watches you are still going to be short of funds when it comes to a trade if you move one or two of the watches. Keep them all for now, if funds are not an issue pick up the Sub-C Date and put them all in a reasonable rotation for several months and see what you wear and what you don't. Decide what should go and sell it. If you need the funds before you can do a deal I would move the Date Just and the Black Bay. I think you can dress up the Speedy with the right strap if you want and the Sub speaks for itself.

I think OP was pretty set on not moving his DJ. So not sure why this is being suggested.

OP, I would sell the BB towards funding a SubC. You mentioned it's been your dream watch. Once you have it, I would think the BB won't get a whole lot of wrist time.

The Speedy is a tough one. I think it's an awesome watch, and would like one in my collection one day. But having tried it on several times, it doesn't sing to me on my wrist. It's a watch that I would like to own, but not necessarily wear. I'm OK with that. Sounds weird, I know. But I think if you sell it, you might end up with seller's remorse.

DateJust, Speedy, SubC - sounds like a solid collection.

[Portland]

Originally Posted by F1polesitter

It's a watch that I would like to own, but not necessarily wear. I'm OK with that. Sounds weird, I know.

I think I get what you're saying. I like the idea of the Speedy much more than I enjoy wearing it. The one time a week I wear it, it's fantastic. But I just don't have that drive to want to put it on like I get with my Datejust. I figured if that's the case, why keep it? Even if I sell the Speedy and the Tudor at the current used market price averages, I am more than 75% of the way to a gently used or grey market 116610.

[F1polesitter]

Originally Posted by Portland

I think I get what you're saying. I like the idea of the Speedy much more than I enjoy wearing it. The one time a week I wear it, it's fantastic. But I just don't have that drive to want to put it on like I get with my Datejust. I figured if that's the case, why keep it? Even if I sell the Speedy and the Tudor at the current used market price averages, I am more than 75% of the way to a gently used or grey market 116610.

I totally get where you're coming from. Based on what you just said, I think you won't miss the Speedy too much and will be very happy with a SubC.

For me, the history of the Speedy just makes it such a special watch. Even if I don't have a desire to strap it on in the morning, I would like to own a piece of that history in my collection. Like you said "I like the idea of the Speedy much more than I enjoy wearing it."

[mattedialdoc]

I consider the Speedy the best non-Rolex SS sport watch for the Rolex collector. It really has a place in any collection for the reasons mentioned. I don't wear mine much, but when I do I realize how cool it is. Also it really is a lot of bang for the buck, and you won't make much on a sale. Doesn't make sense to sell it.


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