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Old 15 August 2018, 10:50 PM   #31
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Looks fine to me. Your photo has a tiny bit of parallax.
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Old 15 August 2018, 11:02 PM   #32
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Looks fine to me. Your photo has a tiny bit of parallax.


I agree.

If you look at the 12 o’clock inverted triangle hour marker, and compare its relative position to the printed minute hashes, it also looks skewed to the left. So IMHO it’s the angle of the picture that is fooling you.



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Old 15 August 2018, 11:05 PM   #33
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It definitely appears a gnat's hair to the left in that picture. Like someone said above, once you've seen it, you cannot unsee it.

Conclusion: take another macro head on and if you can still see it, send it back to Rolex and get the bezel replaced. Assuming it's from an AD, there's no need to get the authenticity checked.

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Old 16 August 2018, 12:41 AM   #34
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That's a never ending game... Just enjoy the watch and that's all! Cheers


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Old 16 August 2018, 12:42 AM   #35
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I wonder how the timekeeping performance is?
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Old 16 August 2018, 12:46 AM   #36
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I wonder how the timekeeping performance is?
What Rolex watches actually tell the time,I thought now they were only alignment point watches to be checked with high magnification for every miniscule detail.
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Old 16 August 2018, 12:48 AM   #37
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So this is the 3rd submariner I got in the past 14 months, the first one which I gave to my dad was flawless (visually at least) then my 114060 has misaligned pearl (they replace the bezel and all happy) and I got a hulk in Jan this year, did not noticed the misalignment until today, am I just seeing things or it is really misaligned?




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it is an optical illusion the side closest to the camera will appear bent. it isnt it is a straight line.

i dont think it is a steady picture either, just look at the top of the triangle above the pearl. it doesnt even look even.
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Old 16 August 2018, 12:52 AM   #38
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It does appear to be a tad off, I suppose it depends on how it bothers you.
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Old 16 August 2018, 12:58 AM   #39
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totally fine, come on man!
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:10 AM   #40
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You have found a rare orchid and now you are looking for imperfections with the petals? I think you’re missing the bigger picture.
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:14 AM   #41
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The pic is crooked, not the pearl
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:20 AM   #42
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I think that hulk is a replica. I can buy it from you for $500
In all the seriousness, the pearl is perfectly aligned. Relax and sleep well
The date is missing though
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:25 AM   #43
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Looks fine to me. Your photo has a tiny bit of parallax.
My observation also. Photo was not taken straight on.
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:35 AM   #44
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Looks great! Enjoy!
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:54 AM   #45
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All of your photos are from the 3 O'clock side of the watch ... take some straight on or from the 9 O'clock side ..
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:54 AM   #46
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3rd Submariner - from Rolex Boutique in Japan (2 has pearl not centered issue)

Today’s phone cameras are capable of amazing zoom shots and magnification that will make anything look terrible, things that to human eye would be perfect.

I bought a like new Tudor BBR from a trusted seller here. Upon inspection when I picked it up from fedex it was fantastic. Then I took some photos of it and left it in the car when I arrived at work. During my break I looked at the photos and OMG, huge dent on the case where bracelet meets the logs, a spring bar scratch of sorts. Sent the pic to the seller who immediately said he would take it back and apologized for probably missing it. I said I will check out the actual watch later in the day as I didn’t see it either and will let him know.

Went back to the car later and no matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t find the ding/scratch with naked eye. I took out the phone and zoomed in and took a picture, and it was there. Even knowing where it exactly was, I couldn’t see it with my naked eye. Let the seller know that I was completely satisfied by the purchase and would be keeping he watch, and also really appreciated his immediate confidence inspiring response. I was embarrassed a bit for scrutinizing a used watch under such magnification when the watch looked and was absolutely perfect in real life.

At these zoom levels and powerful pictures, a slight rotation of the hand holding the phone and misalignment of the camera lens vs photo subject can make things look misaligned. Shadows also play a big role in perception.

Even if I found a slight misalignment on the perl under that level of magnification, it wouldn’t bother me. I know dials are hand made (based on Rolex factory videos on YouTube) and a slight misalignment of hour index placement or Perl on bezel only seen under zoom wouldn’t bother me one bit.


The perl is a raised piece, so slight angle of view tilted to the right will make the top edge of the perl look like it is sitting beyond the triangle on the left side.

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Old 16 August 2018, 02:00 AM   #47
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It does look off. A Daytona as compensation is the least Rolex can do.
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Old 16 August 2018, 02:14 AM   #48
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I read these threads all the time and frankly was a bit nervous that my new Sub might have one of these defects.

Picked up the Sub about a month ago and compared it to some of the photos I see on here. Take this one for example. That is zoomed in massively. Look at the pearl as it sits on your wrist, you just don't see the detail that you do in that photo.

There was another thread on here looking at gaps between bracelets and cases. In the photos the gaps can look terrible. Then you look at your own watch with your own eye and realise anything will look terrible under 10x zoom.

If you're going to sit and look at your watch under a microscope then I think a mechanical watch may not be for you. Just accept that there will be some fine differences between watches and enjoy that yours is individual.
Pick out any "pretty" gal you find attractive and then look at her face under 10x loupe.....same thing....put away the loops.....use your own eyesight....this rule changed my life forever and made me wear and enjoy my smurf/WG blro everyday without worry....
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Old 16 August 2018, 07:05 AM   #49
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On the left is faulty pearl alignment, and on the right, it's perfect!


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Old 16 August 2018, 07:44 AM   #50
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On the left is faulty pearl alignment, and on the right, it's perfect!


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The one on the right looks high maintenance and expensive. I'll pass.
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Old 16 August 2018, 09:02 AM   #51
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It looks like it is a tiny little bit off towards the left.

On the plus side though, the crown on your rehaut looks to be centered (either that or pretty damn near centered)
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Old 16 August 2018, 09:08 AM   #52
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Old 16 August 2018, 09:25 AM   #53
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It looks fine. Anyone can find a flaw on anything if they look hard enough.
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Old 16 August 2018, 09:05 PM   #54
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Thanks all, I am pretty OCD about it - took it back and the service center people were so nice (you expect nothing from Japanese services) - picked it up again and it is perfect! Might sound silly but man that was a mistake to look into every single details of your watch trying to find flaw... this is a “disease” type hobby ... sigh ..yet we all keep coming back





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Old 16 August 2018, 09:50 PM   #55
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But now it looks like your bezel triangle doesn't line up with the 12 o'clock marker. ;-)
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Old 16 August 2018, 10:21 PM   #56
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Wow. Looks even worse now. How did the manage to mess that up?

Just kidding.
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Old 16 August 2018, 10:24 PM   #57
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If it's truly off, swap it.

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Old 16 August 2018, 10:27 PM   #58
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This reminds me of some photography forums I've been on where people zoom in 800% checking the "sharpness" of their $10000 lens wondering if they got a good "copy".
For $10,000 wouldn't you?

Regardless if this is an optical illusion, I definitely don't agree with the comments about letting it go. If something's not right, I'd get it resolved. I'd do the same with a $10k lens, a Rolex or even an Orient, but that's me, Mr. OCD.
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Old 16 August 2018, 10:35 PM   #59
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Wow. Looks even worse now. How did the manage to mess that up?

Just kidding.


Hahahh now I have to go back again lol!! Darn


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Old 16 August 2018, 10:39 PM   #60
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For $10,000 wouldn't you?

Regardless if this is a photo playing "tricks" I definitely don't agree with the comments about letting it go. If something's not right, I'd get it resolved. I'd do the same with a $10k lens, a Rolex or even an Orient, but that's me, Mr. OCD.
No. I own several 6 digit Subs, and could never spot something so insignificant as that purported "flaw". Certainly not with my 55 year old eyes and glasses. Guarantee the OP could not see this with his naked eye until he either used a loupe or smartphone camera and expanded the pics. Your OCD must really hinder your life activities.
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