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Old 21 August 2018, 10:36 PM   #1
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go for it...great trade...
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Old 21 August 2018, 11:10 PM   #2
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No way I would make that trade. The SD is not more versatile in my opinion (due to bulkiness) nor does it really give you a different look than your sub. You already have two icons, keep them and enjoy. If you want to get the SD, I would save and get later.
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Old 21 August 2018, 11:20 PM   #3
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It's definitely a personal choice... for me, my 16610 isn't going anywhere, ever. So I wouldn't make it, but if your mind is hinkering for the SD it's probably only a matter of time.
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Old 21 August 2018, 11:46 PM   #4
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I would also NOT do this deal. As some others have said, you already have two icons so I wouldn’t trade both in for one watch. While the SD4k may appreciate a little, I don’t think it will be a better investment piece (especially if you wear as a one and only), and will be less versatile than the Sub due to the bulkiness. Also, while technically a superior dive watch, it is really over spec for anything that anyone would really need to dive in.

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Old 22 August 2018, 02:10 AM   #5
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This is probably the toughest “should I trade or not” threads I’ve ever contemplated.

A Sub of some variant or other and a Speedy Pro is pretty much the perfect two watch sports watch collection. That being said I’d trade either of those watches for an SD4K without a second thought, and I’m having a tough time rejecting the idea of trading both for an SD4K. If it’s at all feasible I’d try to sell the Sub keep the Speedy and get the SD4K. If you can pull that off you have upgraded your dive watch situation and still have the perfect two watch rotation.

If it is not economically feasible I’d probably do the trade, and save up for a used Speedy in the future.

One thing to consider is that if you view the SD4K as an investment as a lot of guys here do, wearing it as a daily is going to cause a lot of stress every time you bang it off a doorknob or one of your kids grab onto and pull the bracelet.

For what it’s worth I don’t find the SD4K to be any more awkward or uncomfortable than the other two it would be perfectly suited for a daily watch.
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Old 22 August 2018, 05:17 AM   #6
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This is probably the toughest “should I trade or not” threads I’ve ever contemplated.

A Sub of some variant or other and a Speedy Pro is pretty much the perfect two watch sports watch collection. That being said I’d trade either of those watches for an SD4K without a second thought, and I’m having a tough time rejecting the idea of trading both for an SD4K. If it’s at all feasible I’d try to sell the Sub keep the Speedy and get the SD4K. If you can pull that off you have upgraded your dive watch situation and still have the perfect two watch rotation.

If it is not economically feasible I’d probably do the trade, and save up for a used Speedy in the future.

One thing to consider is that if you view the SD4K as an investment as a lot of guys here do, wearing it as a daily is going to cause a lot of stress every time you bang it off a doorknob or one of your kids grab onto and pull the bracelet.

For what it’s worth I don’t find the SD4K to be any more awkward or uncomfortable than the other two it would be perfectly suited for a daily watch.
Thanks for your detailed response. I did think I had the perfect duo with my favourite submariner and the Speedmaster but then I got the sd4k bug. 40mm, satin dial, helium escape etc. My concern is whether the sd4k will make for a comfortable daily wear for all occasions. Given I missed the boat, it will be almost impossible to try one at an AD.
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Old 22 August 2018, 07:29 AM   #7
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Thanks for your detailed response. I did think I had the perfect duo with my favourite submariner and the Speedmaster but then I got the sd4k bug. 40mm, satin dial, helium escape etc. My concern is whether the sd4k will make for a comfortable daily wear for all occasions. Given I missed the boat, it will be almost impossible to try one at an AD.
It will make a comfortable daily wear watch. I guess it’s heavier and slightly taller than your Sub, but having an appropriate number of links and the flexibility of the glidelock clasp will ensure the fit is perfect no matter how swollen your wrist is from heat or cold, and if you just feel like wearing it really loose for a while you can pop open the diver extension.

I doubt the slight extra weight will do anything more than remind you that you are wearing your grail watch. It might be a tiny bit tougher to get it under shirt sleeves, but not much of an issue.
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Old 22 August 2018, 02:16 AM   #8
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Life is too short to live with a watch that doesn't float your boat. My 116600 is my favorite watch. I'm certain none here would have approved of my trade but I love the watch far more than the two I traded away (got cash out of the deal as well).
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Old 22 August 2018, 05:19 AM   #9
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Life is too short to live with a watch that doesn't float your boat. My 116600 is my favorite watch. I'm certain none here would have approved of my trade but I love the watch far more than the two I traded away (got cash out of the deal as well).
Hey Lee,

Thanks for your response. How comfortable do you find the sd4k. Could this be your one and only?
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Old 22 August 2018, 08:27 PM   #10
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Thanks for your response. How comfortable do you find the sd4k. Could this be your one and only?
No doubt I could easily live with the SD4K as an only. It is my favorite.
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Old 22 August 2018, 11:14 PM   #11
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No doubt I could easily live with the SD4K as an only. It is my favorite.

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Old 22 August 2018, 09:32 AM   #12
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Are you open to an alternate idea?

Keep both of your current watches for smaller watches that each put a foot into chronograph and diver world. ADD an Omega Planet Ocean Chronograph, which will give you a larger, modern movement, ceramic, GMT, etc. Diver and which can be bought at huge discounts. Costs not much, and doesn't get rid of your potential collectibles.
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Old 22 August 2018, 04:09 PM   #13
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Keep both of your current watches for smaller watches that each put a foot into chronograph and diver world. ADD an Omega Planet Ocean Chronograph, which will give you a larger, modern movement, ceramic, GMT, etc. Diver and which can be bought at huge discounts. Costs not much, and doesn't get rid of your potential collectibles.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have already had the 42mm planet ocean 8500. Lovely watch but wasn’t very well balanced and was somewhat heavier than the sd4k. The 9300 is a different beast altogether at nearly 18mm thick.

Ultimately, I think the only watch that settles the sd4k itch is going to be the sd4k
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Old 23 August 2018, 02:12 PM   #14
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have already had the 42mm planet ocean 8500. Lovely watch but wasn’t very well balanced and was somewhat heavier than the sd4k. The 9300 is a different beast altogether at nearly 18mm thick.

Ultimately, I think the only watch that settles the sd4k itch is going to be the sd4k
Then you have your answer. Dump both of the others. Watches can always be replaced. Buy the SD4K, and later you'll get the call to re-acquire one or the others of those you traded/sold, or something else will call out to you. Sounds like the SD4K is calling to you now. Good luck with whichever way you go, and post photos
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Old 22 August 2018, 06:02 PM   #15
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Life is too short to live with a watch that doesn't float your boat. My 116600 is my favorite watch. I'm certain none here would have approved of my trade but I love the watch far more than the two I traded away (got cash out of the deal as well).


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Old 22 August 2018, 06:36 PM   #16
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I don't like the SD's proportions, nor am I a fan of the bezel print.

I say keep what you already have.
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Old 22 August 2018, 02:19 AM   #17
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Love that trade.. that SD is amazing
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Old 22 August 2018, 05:50 AM   #18
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Do it. The SS black dial sub is boring. Not even a seadweller fan.
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Old 22 August 2018, 06:05 AM   #19
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The Speedy can be easily replaced, and prob at a decent price too.

The SD4k is going to be harder and harder to come by as time goes on.
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Old 22 August 2018, 07:20 AM   #20
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I will make that trade
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Old 22 August 2018, 09:12 AM   #21
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Hi folks,

Welcome your thoughts on a trade I am considering.

I currently have a late 2010 G serial pre ceramic submariner date and a 2017 hesalite moonwatch. I have a rubber b and easylink clasp to switch up the sub and I have the moon watch on bracelet with the omega leather and deployant.

This gives quite a lot of variety with the two watches.

I do however have a real hankering for the Sd4k and my budget does not allow me to add so I am considering trading the sub and moon watch.

Welcome your thoughts on moving the two watches to become a one watch Sd4k owner.

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Old 22 August 2018, 09:38 AM   #22
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Tough call You have to think about how many watches do you have in your collection. Can you live without the Moonwatch. The Sea-dweller can replace the Sub.

If it was me, i would keep the moonwatch and offer money and sub for the SD
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Old 22 August 2018, 10:45 AM   #23
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One more vote here to make that trade.

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Old 22 August 2018, 10:48 AM   #24
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My personal preference would be to keep the sub and speedy for reasons already listed. But, as also mentioned, do what makes you happy.
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Old 22 August 2018, 11:44 AM   #25
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I wouldn’t trade the G series 16610T.

I finally purchased a 5 digit series Sub today and the later produced ones can be difficult fo find. The original owner of my Sub purchased it in 2009.

Starting with the M, 16610T got the engraved rehaut. Then later ones got the anti- reflective coating on the crystal which is really nice and random serial #s.

While these late manufacturered Subs may or may not generate more interested / demand down the road, who knows. Currently 5 digit series GMTs seem to be getting all the attention.

I also like the ability to change bezels and honestly there is something about the 16610. Dial, bezel and case just “pop” more than most other models (including ceramic Subs).
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Old 22 August 2018, 04:21 PM   #26
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I wouldn’t trade the G series 16610T.

I finally purchased a 5 digit series Sub today and the later produced ones can be difficult fo find. The original owner of my Sub purchased it in 2009.

Starting with the M, 16610T got the engraved rehaut. Then later ones got the anti- reflective coating on the crystal which is really nice and random serial #s.

While these late manufacturered Subs may or may not generate more interested / demand down the road, who knows. Currently 5 digit series GMTs seem to be getting all the attention.

I also like the ability to change bezels and honestly there is something about the 16610. Dial, bezel and case just “pop” more than most other models (including ceramic Subs).
Thanks for your response, I totally get where you are coming from with the later 16610s. They are becoming more difficult and costly to source should I decide I want to pick one up in the future.
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Old 22 August 2018, 05:24 PM   #27
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Thanks for your response, I totally get where you are coming from with the later 16610s. They are becoming more difficult and costly to source should I decide I want to pick one up in the future.


The collector/hoarder in me says keep both, add the SD. As you rightly say, the last of the 5-digit subs are difficult to come by. For certain 5-dig models, these are the cream if you’re looking for something pristine, IMO.

Oh the other hand, I’m not a fan of any sub date (save the matte dial 16800 perhaps). The SD4K is a personal favourite of mine (my father has one, alongside the aforementioned subs). Ultramodern with modest proportions - really beats the SubC and basically everything else in the dive watch market.


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Old 22 August 2018, 09:58 PM   #28
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The collector/hoarder in me says keep both, add the SD. As you rightly say, the last of the 5-digit subs are difficult to come by. For certain 5-dig models, these are the cream if you’re looking for something pristine, IMO.

Oh the other hand, I’m not a fan of any sub date (save the matte dial 16800 perhaps). The SD4K is a personal favourite of mine (my father has one, alongside the aforementioned subs). Ultramodern with modest proportions - really beats the SubC and basically everything else in the dive watch market.


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If only I could keep them all and add the SD

Thanks again for all the reponses here. Can’t believe how divided opinion is on this trade.
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Old 22 August 2018, 09:59 PM   #29
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If only I could keep them all and add the SD



Thanks again for all the reponses here. Can’t believe how divided opinion is on this trade.


Very divisive indeed. This has been a constructive thread with some good opinions shared!


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Old 22 August 2018, 03:41 PM   #30
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I sort of have what you are willing to trade... and I was interested in the SD4Kc as well, because I wanted the date w/o the cyclops. But the thickness and busy bezel was what drove me away.

My thoughts are that the SD4K is the best from a value standpoint, and can easily replace the sub. But nothing is going to replace the speedy, it's just a iconic, easy to read, fun to play with watch (it has buttons!!). But it can be had for below $3K easily. So you will probably buy back the speedy at some point, just a warning to your wallet.
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