How "Rare" Tudor Black Bay State of Qatar is?

[sillo]

How would you compare these to the Oman dial vintage pieces?

[214270Explorer]

Originally Posted by ras47

Pretty obscure thing to put on a watch face. I don't think it increases the value at all for anyone but a Qatari watch collector. I don't see it increasing the value or collectibility at all. In fact, IMHO it mars the watch face and ruins it for me. I would only buy one if it was offered at a very steep DISCOUNT.

In my opinion there are too many watches made that have too much distraction going on with the dial. Too many lines of text, oversized company logo's and other "unnecessary" information.

[Crown & Shield]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Rotor Self-Winding

[R!$]

Seems like nobody is want to pay crazy premiums for Tudor with arabic letters.

[aurenas]

Got another message. He is also offering brand new with stickers. Seems like is not so hard to find in Qatar

P.S if anyone is interested i could give you a phone number. He is located in Doha, Qatar






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[lecorsaire]

Unless you’re a Qatari, I don’t see why anyone would pay for this. There are royal Qatar and Oman versions of nearly every Rolex made from Subs to Day-Dates to GMTs, etc.

[Crown & Shield]

That dealer wouldn't have a Qatari Sub or Daytona instead?

[edyu]

Originally Posted by k1985

They did one for the Vegas Golden Knights as well


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I totally read that Vegan Garden Knights. :)


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[garyfromleeds]

Originally Posted by aurenas

Hello guys,


Just wanted to ask, how rare is Tudor BB State of Qatar? I have seen one here on TRF for $8,000 and few on Chrono24 from ±10,000 € to 15,000 € ++. I managed to find one from Qatar dealer brand new with stickers, etc for 5,000€.

Seems like nobody is want to pay crazy premiums for Tudor with arabic letters.

What is your opinion on this?

P.S Does anyone knows approximate production numbers?

Thank you

They made 85 in total , nice if you have one of them

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by garyfromleeds

They made 85 in total , nice if you have one of them

Cool to own but crazy pricing!


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[efthi]

I am getting one tomorrow! I am based in Qatar for now so I thought it is a good chance to have something to remember if I leave after a couple of years. I was in Oman before that and have read about the rare Omani dials, so it is good to grab one during my age and time!

[Verdi]

Rolex stopped stamping logos on the dials in the 90s.......Tudor took over.

They are valuable on the long run. A 4digit DJ with an arabic logo/writing is double the price of the same watch with a normal dial.

[In-Cog-Neeto]

I read recently the state of Qatar was a run of 75

[APPRF]

It just says State OF Qatar in Arabic. Nothing special, these are ordered by Arab Gulf States to give as gifts to visitors or close people to the rulers. You have them on Rolex, VC, etc with names of all the Gulf States and Kingdoms. I wouldn't buy one at a high premium unless you like Arabic writing, because they are not popular. It gives an impression that a person was given the watch as a gift, or bought it at a cheap price from someone who was gifted one. These are not special editions, unless Harrods which is owned by Qatar convinced Rolex to make a special addition for Qatar on a Tudor. I would think that if the State of Qatar wanted to associate its name with a brand it would go with Rolex, provided Rolex would agree to do that as a special edition in the first place. I think there is a difference between special editions, and watches commissioned by countries and rulers with their logos to be given as gifts.

[playford]

Ermm...

Few others I've seen.

Royal engineers commando one (uk military)
Royal protection service (UK police)

I'd imagine there are more of the British military ones given the SBS, SAS etc Rolex Limited editions.

That French special forces one, the Italian forum one, Harrods and Qatar.

I would imagine there is more than this as well, 200 runs seem to be the minimum- ish.

[APPRF]

Originally Posted by Verdi

Rolex stopped stamping logos on the dials in the 90s.......Tudor took over.

They are valuable on the long run. A 4digit DJ with an arabic logo/writing is double the price of the same watch with a normal dial.

Mostly in Gulf states and the writing would be Arabic numbers on dial, I don't think states names go double price. Watches with logos are still being given as gifts from 6 countries in the Gulf to a lot of people. I have a VC with Khalifa the previous ruler of Qatar, and State Of Qatar as a logo. Are you willing to pay double price for it? I'm open for offers.

[unknown]

This black bay is Tudors FIRST EVER real limited edition, the rest are nice but just special orders for somebody or something

I have the Bucherer and Harrods

But this chrono is imo MUCH more special than a little logo on a dial

[efthi]

Originally Posted by unknown

This black bay is Tudors FIRST EVER real limited edition, the rest are nice but just special orders for somebody or something

I have the Bucherer and Harrods

But this chrono is imo MUCH more special than a little logo on a dial

Why “the first ever limited edition”? Because of the low number production?


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[unknown]

Originally Posted by efthi

Why “the first ever limited edition”? Because of the low number production?


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one of the best blogs out there

https://watchesbysjx.com/2019/09/tud...d-edition.html


"Tudor’s latest watch is major – beyond the watch itself – for it is the first publicly available limited edition in its 70-year history. In an industry where limited editions usually emphasise “edition” rather than “limited”, the Black Bay Chrono Dark is limited to just 1181 pieces at time of writing (though the number will creep up each year; more on that below)."