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Old 13 May 2019, 01:17 AM   #1
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It's all a scam

Sorry to say but this is old news- but I wouldn’t generalize what this AD said to all ADs, nor would I attribute these practices to Rolex the company . I suspect there are more ADs holding hot SS models in the back (nothing sleezy about this IMO- why put out a watch that is already basically sold) than there are those with overt policies of bundling (which IS sleezy IMO). Was in my AD A few days ago just to chat and there was nothing “hot” in the safe- anything hot that comes in has either been allocated ahead of time or sold to someone on a list within days. This also includes some PM prof models. That’s just the reality of the current situation of supply vs demand. Sucks to be a casual or first time Rolex SS buyer unless you want a datejust.


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Old 13 May 2019, 01:31 AM   #2
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ADs have to bundle otherwise they won't make Rolex happy. No good stock if they don't sell out from their other lines of selection. Also these aren't breaking the rules... No rules against bundling. No rules against discounting either.
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Old 13 May 2019, 01:41 AM   #3
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Why do people make such a big deal out of the dealers? There are plenty of new watches on the grey market. Pay the premium and done deal.


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Old 13 May 2019, 02:24 AM   #4
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So far I've been offered a hulk and a batman. I've purchased 4 watches from my AD so far. Holding out for the Daytona!
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Old 13 May 2019, 02:56 AM   #5
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...and yet with patience I have managed to still get almost every reference I want without a bundle!
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Old 13 May 2019, 02:58 AM   #6
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I'm moving on frankly. I have my name at the AD for the two models I'd like, but am wearing and purchasing other brands now.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:05 AM   #7
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Why is it a scam? many other watch companies to choose from.

Rolex doesn't need you or your money.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:22 AM   #8
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Went to an ad in the tri state, of course no ss sport models on display

After a bit of chit chat they admitted that the ss models are being held in the vault, it's all available but you need to purchase a PM and you can then pick your ss of choice, all with no discount
i'm sure some are held some aren't

and its not like at every moment all sought after models are in the vault.

depends on the AD....some of the more upstanding don't play the game of bundling with PM. but then it's not like they will put the hot SS on display either. AD will size up the potential to see if he/she is a potential flipper
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:30 AM   #9
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Fine, then ask for a 519, or green yg Daytona and your blue sky
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:44 AM   #10
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When street price is cheaper than retail:
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Don't go to that AD. They stick to MSRP, so they don't deserve your business. Go to an AD that understands the actual value of the watch.
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What a rip-off! Why won't they sell me the watch for MSRP even though it's clearly worth more than that on the open market?!?!
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:44 AM   #11
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I would love to see the “vault” I don’t know your relationship with this AD but that sounds like major BS.

I know what I would do, buy a WG Daytona or BLRO then buy the SS Daytona that is in the “vault” sell it and make a ton of cash. Then tell the AD thanks for the incredible discount on the PM watch.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:49 AM   #12
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I too was very disappointed to learn from an AD they do have hard to get models in the safe for the right buyer.
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Old 13 May 2019, 03:50 AM   #13
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Went to an ad in the tri state, of course no ss sport models on display

After a bit of chit chat they admitted that the ss models are being held in the vault, it's all available but you need to purchase a PM and you can then pick your ss of choice, all with no discount
at least they are honest about it... I can respect that than tell me BS waitlist with zero intention of calling me.
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Old 13 May 2019, 05:00 AM   #14
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Trusting an AD is like trusting a stripper with love.

I’ve been feeling this way for a while but the only honest relationship worth maintaining in this hobby is with a decent Grey Dealer. He gets me the watches I want at q decent price. Most recently he got me a Blue DJ41, fluted bezel, brand new with my name on the card for msrp.


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Old 13 May 2019, 05:12 AM   #15
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Buy PM and forget all about steel
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Old 13 May 2019, 05:27 AM   #16
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Scammmmmmm
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Old 13 May 2019, 05:38 AM   #17
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from my limited experience (had the Rolex bug for 20+ years but have only visited AD's for the last 6 months) the implicit understanding from the AD's I encounter is be a regular customer (don't think they mean buy more than 1 PM) let them see you're local and it goes from there....unsure what regular means is it two purchases a year? so I will follow that by giving that AD first consideration if I need to buy an item for a relative...hopefully it will work out
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