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Old 24 June 2019, 12:36 PM   #31
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The spread is simply too much for ADs not to seek some sort of quid pro quo for it. After all, there are so many ways to get around Rolex rules no matter how strict they are about it.
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Old 24 June 2019, 03:04 PM   #32
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I hope they don't leave. And if they do so with agreements that are good for everyone.
I fear the arrival of Boris Johnson. He will ruin everything.
That person Boris Johnson .... honestly how could anyone vote for him? He’s holding top place in terms of charade. How could that be possible? To all people there in UK, how could you? How could you build a wall there, when world became so small? What for?
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Old 24 June 2019, 03:43 PM   #33
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We won’t leave. Give it another 18 months and this will be resolved. But that won’t help with the supply of sports Rolexes. That’s a more intractable problem.....
Agreed, it is obvious to everyone that if the UK politicians do not get a grip of this current situation it will turn very ugly, there will be riots on the streets! Thousands will march to parliament square chanting "I don't know what Rolex I want, but I want it now"!
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Old 24 June 2019, 05:19 PM   #34
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Offered to swap the dial for a white one while you wait? Never heard of that before.

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The dealer in Amsterdam airport offered to do the same for me one time , I'm not sure if that's even allowed by Rolex ?
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Old 24 June 2019, 05:28 PM   #35
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Just a friendly warning (before the storm):

Discussion of politics is against the rules......
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Old 24 June 2019, 05:41 PM   #36
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In Mykonos right now and nothing to see unfortunately.
Nothing to see in Mykonos seriously?? That place is full of hot...oh wait you mean watches, ok.
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Old 24 June 2019, 05:42 PM   #37
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I was in my AD on Friday and I’ve yet to see such a sorry sight! Not a single solitary pro steel model in sight, no precious metal pro models either. The one and only pro model on display was a TT Yachtmaster 37.

Even the non pro lineup was rubbish - only one steel Datejust 41 and a couple of OP 36 - absolutely everything else was TT Datejust.

It’s just making Rolex look silly really (though they certainly aren’t!)
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Old 24 June 2019, 05:44 PM   #38
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The SS pieces are not sold anymore to tourist anywhere in the world. Local AD servers local customers only. New common policy.

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Old 24 June 2019, 05:47 PM   #39
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a very honest ad in Italy told me they had what I wanted but it would be like handing me a bag of free money (regardless of whether it was my life's goal to own that watch forever or I was a flipper).

the watches are there but they have to know and want to sell it to you. $$$$
Yep, very true. A friend of mine texted his friend/old colleague (who is close to the person in charge of the watch department at one of the big jewellers here in town). He was looking to buy the BLNR (just before it was discontinued). The answer was; "Sure we have it. Can he come by tomorrow"?

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Old 24 June 2019, 05:55 PM   #40
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The situation has been pretty much similar for two years in my experience..
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Old 24 June 2019, 07:05 PM   #41
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a very honest ad in Italy told me they had what I wanted but it would be like handing me a bag of free money (regardless of whether it was my life's goal to own that watch forever or I was a flipper).

the watches are there but they have to know and want to sell it to you. $$$$
Yes, I had the same info from my AD.
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Old 24 June 2019, 07:24 PM   #42
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Yes, I had the same info from my AD.
I have a hard time believing that an AD would not turn high demand pieces to revenue because of this. If it makes them feel any better, 99% of their models do not have this "problem".
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Old 24 June 2019, 07:27 PM   #43
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I saw a Rolex Yacht-Master 40 with a blue face in one of the AD in Prague yesterday.
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Old 24 June 2019, 07:41 PM   #44
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Been touring Europe, Barcelona, Gibraltar, Marseille, Rome, several Greek Islands and now Athens, not a SS sports model in sight.

Found a used SS Daytona, prior to the ceramic bezel, complete with papers and boxes priced at €18,000. Passed on it lol.

Guess I shall have to wait until I get to the top of my AD’s list for my SS Daytona.

There was a TT Daytona in Gibraltar with a black dial and they offered to swap the dial out for a white one while I waited! I left the store, with a polite “no thank you”
SS are all gone to grey or VIP customers, just not sitting in windows
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Old 24 June 2019, 08:57 PM   #45
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Yesterday’s AD’s in Milan only had 36, 31 datejust and day dates on cases.
Not a single SS sports model, not even 41 date just.
On the positive side, tried on the new 36 Datejust and looks great.


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Old 24 June 2019, 09:21 PM   #46
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Travel a bit further and go to Brazil, smaller ad's outside Rio/SP. No daytonas,blro's,hulks ofcource but subs,explorers 1/2 even white/black skydwellers are available if you walk in at the right moment. Saw a case last month with sub no date, 2 explorers, white/black skydweller, polar,milgauss black/blue. All in the case ready to be picked up. http://danglar.com.br/
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Old 24 June 2019, 09:24 PM   #47
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There was an Explorer I in an AD window in Marbella when I was there a few weeks ago. Regret not going in to get it...

If your talking about the hot SS sports like Subs, GMTs and Daytonas, then it's not just Europe that has none...
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Old 24 June 2019, 09:33 PM   #48
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That person Boris Johnson .... honestly how could anyone vote for him? He’s holding top place in terms of charade. How could that be possible? To all people there in UK, how could you? How could you build a wall there, when world became so small? What for?
Sorry for kidnapping the thread a bit!
It’s a watch forum mate,,
You may want to nip over to Quora,,
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Old 24 June 2019, 09:35 PM   #49
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Same in US. Making things worse is that the DJs they do have on display are not very appealing. I guess the blue dial, fluted bezels on a jubilee are in the same category as SS sport watches now.





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Old 24 June 2019, 10:18 PM   #50
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Travel a bit further and go to Brazil, smaller ad's outside Rio/SP. No daytonas,blro's,hulks ofcource but subs,explorers 1/2 even white/black skydwellers are available if you walk in at the right moment. Saw a case last month with sub no date, 2 explorers, white/black skydweller, polar,milgauss black/blue. All in the case ready to be picked up. http://danglar.com.br/
The WL for those watches isn't all that big in ADs in Europe/NA anyway and the premiums aren't crazy. If you were talking Daytonas, BLROs, Hulks, blue dial SkyDs, it'd be worth it. Otherwise buying from a reputable grey would be simpler, cheaper and faster.
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Old 25 June 2019, 03:01 AM   #51
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Been touring Europe, Barcelona, Gibraltar, Marseille, Rome, several Greek Islands and now Athens, not a SS sports model in sight.

Found a used SS Daytona, prior to the ceramic bezel, complete with papers and boxes priced at €18,000. Passed on it lol.

Guess I shall have to wait until I get to the top of my AD’s list for my SS Daytona.

There was a TT Daytona in Gibraltar with a black dial and they offered to swap the dial out for a white one while I waited! I left the store, with a polite “no thank you”
That doesn´t mean they don´t have them, they might be stashed away in the safe waiting for the right client. I have heard that even Rolex advice to ADs is not to display those models.
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Old 25 June 2019, 03:20 AM   #52
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I can foresee the trend is moving towards selling to the locals only.
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Old 25 June 2019, 03:33 AM   #53
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I can foresee the trend is moving towards selling to the locals only.
In my country,hard to get is sold to locals. Period.
How it should be IMO.
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Old 25 June 2019, 06:33 AM   #54
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White dial Milgauss in the window in Cannes today...



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Old 25 June 2019, 07:00 AM   #55
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I was in Istanbul a week ago , visited a famous AD in an area called “Nisantashi” , there were many luxury brands nearby ... PP , RM all in the same area ...
I interest with the Rolex AD and I saw 2 Yacht Master II, one TT and one SS , i passed them because i think it is the most ugly Rolex ever made ... except of them there were many DJs 41 , 36 and more ... and ofcourse PM day-dates ...
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Old 25 June 2019, 01:23 PM   #56
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There are none anywhere in the world it seems. Smells and walks like an under-supply problem to me.
There are hundreds if not thousands sitting at greys.
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Old 25 June 2019, 02:12 PM   #57
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Europe. No SS Sports Models

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In Mykonos right now and nothing to see unfortunately.


Did you happen to see a the RG YM40 in Mykonos or Santorini?

They’re a little easier to get, but I’ll be there later this year and am thinking of grabbing it with a VAT discount.

I failed to pull the trigger in Ibiza last year, but suppose I lucked out now that they added the glidelock.


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Old 25 June 2019, 05:51 PM   #58
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I was in a Tenerife AD a few months ago, they had a Pepsi and a white dial Daytona... In the safe out the back. I was offered the Pepsi as part of a bundle deal with a load of other cr*p I didn't want

The watches are always there... just not for us mere mortals :)
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Old 26 June 2019, 07:44 AM   #59
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On the hunt here in Italy as well. An AD in Genoa has a yacht-master steel/plat available.

Does anyone know of any reputable preowned Rolex establishments in Italy?


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Old 26 June 2019, 08:21 AM   #60
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Wempe at Frankfurt FRA today had none. They did have the new Tudor grey coal bronze and the LHD Pelagos.
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