GMT markers on bezel lit up!

[Martymcflyface]

Originally Posted by VegasMilgauss

I would rather the GMT hand was lumed.

It is

[wilsonpepper]

Originally Posted by lightingball2

I have to ask, how is the 787.......I hear the dream liner is amazing....I can only imagine if I was piloting that as well....big difference from the 777?

Much better acoustics, humidity, lower cabin altitude = equals less stress on the body (body clock too) !

[Wes911]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

Currently 787

Previous = 777, DC-10-30, 747SP

Well I haven't been at it as long as you but in 24 years of flying commercial jets I have never once looked at my watch in a nighttime cockpit and had any issue reading it. I am not arguing it would be cool to have the illuminated bezel or flaming you for posting about it.
Serious question though, do you legitimately feel it is needed? I sure do not need it, but again not saying it wouldn't be cool to have.

[georgekart]

Originally Posted by STEELINOX

They are using an old platform - the 737 - and added better [today] power systems.

It should be the other way around - build the plane around the engine platform.

Again, they're squeezing the very last bit out of a tried and proven airframe that was not designed for the engine platform of today...

If I had to make a guess, this will be Boeing's next move. A plane that has a larger range, new engines and is using modern technologies. They already have a joint venture with Embraer so I think lower end 737s (-700, MAX 7) will be replaced by Embraer sooner or later (much like A318 is replaced by A220 and A319neo might be replaced by stretched version in near future.) Then larger variations will be replaced by new 797 which in smaller variations will be comparable to 737's larger variations and 797's larger variations will be comparable to what 757 was. That way they will have 3 current generation planes in their whole range covering essentially the whole market. (797,787,777X in order of increasing size)

[Syed117]

Anything other brands do that Rolex doesn't is terrible.

Until Rolex starts doing it. Then it's the best thing ever.

I think that's how it works.

[Ian13]

Agreed.

FWIW, I like just about all of Ball's GMTs. They are doing cool things with the designs.

[ChipotleBanana]

Originally Posted by southtexas

Rolex is not about utility. Why potentially sacrifice good looks for functionality?


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Hello? Rolex is the best example of modern luxury on top of an incredibly utilitarian watch.

[southtexas]

Originally Posted by ChipotleBanana

Hello? Rolex is the best example of modern luxury on top of an incredibly utilitarian watch.

Hi! You’re right, except in this particular case I guess.


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[wilsonpepper]

Originally Posted by Wes911

Well I haven't been at it as long as you but in 24 years of flying commercial jets I have never once looked at my watch in a nighttime cockpit and had any issue reading it. I am not arguing it would be cool to have the illuminated bezel or flaming you for posting about it.
Serious question though, do you legitimately feel it is needed? I sure do not need it, but again not saying it wouldn't be cool to have.

Since we all fly on UTC, the GMT watch is great to have. Yes I think there is a legitimate need for a lumen type of bezel. Especially when you are on a break in the bunk, in the dark. Whether the ring is set to UTC or just timing your sleep, it would be nice to "not have to turn on the light" to read your timer, or check the UTC time. All our break times are UTC, and you cannot see that time on a Rolex GMT, in the dark.

I don't think that it is required to be as bright as the Ball watch, but I do believe that it would add needed functionality.

[Fatso]

Here is the almost perfect GMT-Master - or what the Tudor BB GMT should have been


https://tempus-machina.com/products/tempus-machina-711z

[TheDude]

The Pelagos has a lumed ceramic bezel. Not for nothing but I’d forgo the precious metal infused ceramic insert for a glowing one...


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[CaliBear]

Originally Posted by wilsonpepper

There was a thread recently where a member asked a simple question - how come Rolex does not illuminate the 24 hour bezel.

Many others fried the guy, one comment included "Why would you need that", another said the poor gent should "memorize where all the 24 hour bezel markers are located".

Attached is a picture from the Ball Watch website. What I see is a useable watch for night operations, and I also wish Rolex lit up the bezel on the GMT.

But what would I know, I have only been flying heavy jets across vast expanse of ocean(s) for 35 years !

Ready, Fire, Aim

My thoughts (two years ago) exactly!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=614404

[Bizcut1]

Hmmmm....lume on the bezel you say?

[Rodrigo082]

It would be great to have lume in the GMT bezel but Let’s be honest - Rolex isn’t anymore a tool watch but a fashioned follower

[Rodrigo082]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

Hmmmm....lume on the bezel you say?

Amazing looking gmt

[jimcameron]

If I were in the market for a new Rolex, I'd buy the Ball instead.

[Rashid.bk]

You can have those watches. I prefer the clean aesthetics of the Rolex design. I Think Blancpain does lumed bezels best. In any case I don't think this really needed, Rolex sells every single GMT it makes at retail. It has no problem selling them, so if you want lume that badly, you have other choices.

While Rolex are still as functional as ever and even more durable than any "tool watch" version of the 70's, Rolex has long since stopped making blue collar tool watches for sanitation or construction workers.
You are delusional if you think a shinny $10k watch is best suited as a tool.

[Harry-57]

I picked up that Ball watch for a song in the January sales. For the price, even before sale discount, the build and material quality is excellent.

It's a brute. And it will do very nicely as my travel anywhere beater for the next few years.

The hour markers, hands and outer 24h index on the bezel are tritium tubes.

[Quailhunter]

I wear a 20 year old Luminox at night. The brightness has faded, but is still readable even with my old eyes. The GMT is hard to read after 4-5 hours.

[DLRIDES]

No matter the forum members desire for such, the question that must be asked :

If you were in control of Rolex, had a wait list, and maximized production on a watch, would you redesign it ?





PS - I would eventually to show advancement in a product.

[CaliBear]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

You can have those watches. I prefer the clean aesthetics of the Rolex design. I Think Blancpain does lumed bezels best. In any case I don't think this really needed, Rolex sells every single GMT it makes at retail. It has no problem selling them, so if you want lume that badly, you have other choices.

While Rolex are still as functional as ever and even more durable than any "tool watch" version of the 70's, Rolex has long since stopped making blue collar tool watches for sanitation or construction workers.
You are delusional if you think a shinny $10k watch is best suited as a tool.

The point is not simply whether or not Rolex can successfully sell GMTs without bezel lume, obviously Rolex can and does.

The question is why doesn't Rolex put lume on the GMT bezel (anymore)? Pretty much everyone seems to agree that the bezel lume serves a useful function. (Don't believe me? Try using Rolex's GMT function under low lighting conditions; having a rotatable bezel is not very useful when you can't see the numbers.)

Many have posited that Rolex removed bezel lume because the modern Rolex is about aesthetics not function. Perhaps.

Rolex apparently engraves the numerals in the ceramic and then coats them with a thin layer of gold or platinum. I'm guessing Rolex tested out the possibility of using lume in the design on the bezel and they simply were unable to do so effectively. It would be nice to have a definitive answer to this question.

By the way, when did Rolex ever market its GMT Master watch to sanitation or construction workers?

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

I picked up that Ball watch for a song in the January sales. For the price, even before sale discount, the build and material quality is excellent.

It's a brute. And it will do very nicely as my travel anywhere beater for the next few years.

The hour markers, hands and outer 24h index on the bezel are tritium tubes.

That's an awesome-looking watch! Not usually a Ball fan, but that watch rocks!

[SPMN]

Rolex won’t do it anytime soon, but I bet Tudor will soon. Maybe this Baselworld or next. Pelagos GMT would be great!