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Old 13 January 2020, 07:53 AM   #31
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A big launch due on 16th in Asia. And no I am sorry I cannot share more.
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Old 13 January 2020, 08:52 AM   #32
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As I see on IG horoloupe teaser some special Singapore edition of ultra thin perpetual... probably titanium with red dial...
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Old 13 January 2020, 11:19 AM   #33
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My boutique told me that the allocation process has changed and that everything (requests for specific models) is now submitted to the boutique manager who then submits names to AP corporate, and AP corporate now has sole discretion over who gets what. Occasionally, "opportunity-based" allocations will be possible when people pass on a watch and it becomes available, and in those cases, the salespeople and managers at the boutique will have discretion, but those will be relatively uncommon and almost always for models less in-demand.

I asked my salesperson what the best strategy was under this new process for trying to get watches. Last year, he and the boutique manager asked me for a full list of watches I might be interested in, and I sent it over, but none ended up materializing. He said doing that again would likely lower my chances this year, and said I should just hold off on doing anything at the moment. I guess AP corporate and the service centers shut down for a few weeks and are just reopening, and apparently the boutique hasn't gotten anything at all since then and has almost no watches right now. He also said he suspected a number of new watches would be released this week, and it sounds like that the case based on what others here have said.

I guess I'll contact them again once these new releases hit in a few days, but it seems like kind of a weird situation, both for boutique staff and customers. Not a great look for AP, IMO, to leave everyone in the dark. As a customer with an existing relationship that's trying to build a stronger one, it's extremely frustrating to not know what's going on and be told that, as things stand now, I basically won't have a chance of getting any watches unless I get super lucky, and even if I do, I won't really have any control over what I get offered.

Seems like AP does a good job taking care of VVIPs and isn't bad with new customers, but from discussions with others, it sounds like they haven't really figured out what to do with us that have a few watches and have spent amounts approaching six figures but aren't quite at VIP level yet.
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Old 13 January 2020, 12:33 PM   #34
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My boutique told me that the allocation process has changed and that everything (requests for specific models) is now submitted to the boutique manager who then submits names to AP corporate, and AP corporate now has sole discretion over who gets what.
Standard line to take the pressure off of the boutique for customers they know won't get what they want. It's just passing the buck to corporate so they're not seen as the "bad guys". The boutiques absolutely get to choose who gets what, they just don't have much control over their allocation. There are several times the boutiques have to get approval for top tier in demand pieces but they choose who they submit and who they don't. It's just easier to say they submit them all and who gets chosen is out of their hands.
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Old 13 January 2020, 01:33 PM   #35
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Standard line to take the pressure off of the boutique for customers they know won't get what they want. It's just passing the buck to corporate so they're not seen as the "bad guys". The boutiques absolutely get to choose who gets what, they just don't have much control over their allocation. There are several times the boutiques have to get approval for top tier in demand pieces but they choose who they submit and who they don't. It's just easier to say they submit them all and who gets chosen is out of their hands.
This makes complete sense. Such is the market these days. It's a pity, but the world goes 'round.
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Old 13 January 2020, 03:31 PM   #36
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Was told that early Jan is the time to contact AP for this year’s allocations. I have contacted my AP salesperson and I am waiting to hear back. Just wanted to know if anyone has already been allocated any pieces for 2020?


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Wish there was an AP boutique in Boston.
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Old 13 January 2020, 03:38 PM   #37
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Wish there was an AP boutique in Boston.
We don’t even have one in the Bay Area. I guess all tech billionaires wear are casios, Apple watches or the biggest trend of all Fitbit!
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Old 13 January 2020, 07:25 PM   #38
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A big launch due on 16th in Asia. And no I am sorry I cannot share more.


thanks for sharing. I’ll be in the lookout.


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Old 14 January 2020, 01:13 AM   #39
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Wish there was an AP boutique in Boston.
there is one opening on boylston next to hermes/four seasons
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Old 15 January 2020, 02:22 AM   #40
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there is one opening on boylston next to hermes/four seasons
is that confirmed?
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:48 AM   #41
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is that confirmed?
not officially as far as i know, but if you drive by you can literally see the signage on the windows
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Old 15 January 2020, 08:36 AM   #42
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Got a text from my SA this morning that my boutique exclusive 15500 will be available March 2020!! I don't have much of a history with the brand but my first and only purchase was a RO Perpetual Calendar in August 2019
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Old 15 January 2020, 10:07 AM   #43
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Got a text from my SA this morning that my boutique exclusive 15500 will be available March 2020!! I don't have much of a history with the brand but my first and only purchase was a RO Perpetual Calendar in August 2019
well at least you spent a solid $100k to start... pretty good start I must say!
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Old 15 January 2020, 01:05 PM   #44
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Got a text from my SA this morning that my boutique exclusive 15500 will be available March 2020!! I don't have much of a history with the brand but my first and only purchase was a RO Perpetual Calendar in August 2019
Haha that should do it! Also if you buy the 11:59 it should put you in the good books ;) wonder why haha!
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Old 15 January 2020, 01:12 PM   #45
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Got a text from my SA this morning that my boutique exclusive 15500 will be available March 2020!! I don't have much of a history with the brand but my first and only purchase was a RO Perpetual Calendar in August 2019
Nice!! Good work. :D

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well at least you spent a solid $100k to start... pretty good start I must say!
An RO PC clocks in at $60,900 back in 8/2019 (now $63,300) for the Steel.

Did you start with an RO PC Steel? Or was it a PM variant (which comes in at $95,700 -- closer to dauster's assessment)?
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Old 15 January 2020, 01:24 PM   #46
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Aren't RO perpetual calendars really hard to get pieces???
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Old 15 January 2020, 01:25 PM   #47
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Aren't RO perpetual calendars really hard to get pieces???
Only the Ceramic ones, and any LE's.

Those follow the standard "hard to get" process... In other words, if you have a relationship, you can eventually get one. :)

Here, however, WheresCassAt used an RO PC to establish said relationship, so I'm hypothesizing it was either Steel or Gold.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:33 PM   #48
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Guys it’s literally his avatar lol SS blue.
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Old 16 January 2020, 01:39 AM   #49
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Nice!! Good work. :D



An RO PC clocks in at $60,900 back in 8/2019 (now $63,300) for the Steel.

Did you start with an RO PC Steel? Or was it a PM variant (which comes in at $95,700 -- closer to dauster's assessment)?
I assumed PM because steel is supposed to be much harder to get. Oops is stand corrected it’s really his avatar ... in my defense pic is super small on my iPad
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Old 16 January 2020, 03:55 AM   #50
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so how difficult is it to get a RO PC in SS ? I'd like to add one... but prefer to get one from an AD rather than one of the greys
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Old 16 January 2020, 04:21 AM   #51
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so how difficult is it to get a RO PC in SS ? I'd like to add one... but prefer to get one from an AD rather than one of the greys


Now is the time to ask for one. My guess is definitely within the year and maybe within 6 months
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Old 16 January 2020, 04:43 AM   #52
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Thanks. I expressed an interest last year, and was told to check back in Jan, but needed to be approved for purchase. Plus, I know there have been some changes at the Boutique in NY, the person I was working there is no more, so I started speaking to someone new. Let's see.
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Those can be had grey immediately for retail less tax all day. Can't imagine pleading with an AD for one, then waiting and paying full pop.

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Old 16 January 2020, 04:55 AM   #54
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I don't disagree thats option 2, but was interested in developing a relationship with AP.
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Old 16 January 2020, 05:00 AM   #55
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I assumed PM because steel is supposed to be much harder to get. Oops is stand corrected it’s really his avatar ... in my defense pic is super small on my iPad
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Guys it’s literally his avatar lol SS blue.
Haha, well done, GB-man. You are right indeed. :)
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Old 16 January 2020, 08:47 AM   #56
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Thanks. I expressed an interest last year, and was told to check back in Jan, but needed to be approved for purchase. Plus, I know there have been some changes at the Boutique in NY, the person I was working there is no more, so I started speaking to someone new. Let's see.
They most likely had already committed to their allocation for the year. Give it another shot this year and you should be able to get one.
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Old 16 January 2020, 09:18 AM   #57
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Personal preference, but unless you plan on making a significant quantity of purchases, including the "not so popular" models and or very high priced models like gran comps, then you are light years ahead by going grey, getting exactly what you want now, delivered to your door and usually with a discount.

I just can't wrap my head around begging to pay full retail + tax for a model that is readily available in quantity on the grey market at a discount. Do that enough times and you'll more than make up for any premiums you'll have to pay in the future for the truly rare pieces. That formula has worked out beautifully for me and continues to do so.
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Who are your preferred greys to deal with Gravity?
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so how difficult is it to get a RO PC in SS ? I'd like to add one... but prefer to get one from an AD rather than one of the greys
Should not be too hard, they'd be happy to order one in and you could even snag a bonus allocation piece.

Perhaps it depends which part of the world you're in. Some ADs are easier than others ;)
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