HELP! Rolex newbie who got a call from the AD for a watch, not sure if I should pull

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

I think you answered your own question.

If in doubt, don't.

Wait for the one you know you can't live without. You'll know it, because anybody else's opinion won't matter.

Bingo. Thank the AD and politely decline.

[H25B]

Get what you want. Go with your gut. Nothing else matters. Declining something you don’t want will not hurt your cause. You’ll get a Sub pretty soon, they seem to be delivering within a few months for people whose ADs take seriously.

[brucethemanlee]

If you have been doing research on TRF
You should know by now buy what you like because even if we answered YES to all your questions if you don't like the rootbeer and don't wear it then what is the point of buying a watch you don't wear??


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[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Hi all, I'm new here. Being a beginner, I was hoping to ask for some guidance from more experienced members.

Background: just transitioned into my career. things are going well and financially I am now stable. I wanted to purchase a watch to commemorate this milestone in life. Naturally, Rolex came to mind due to the brand recognition/flex factor. However, after doing my research, I began to really appreciate horology in general. I now find myself wanting to take up the hobby of watch collecting. So my motivations for this first purchase have shifted slightly. However, I have learned a lot in the past six to eight weeks, and I'm continuing to do so.

Watch journey so far: I quickly realized that it is a very difficult time to obtain a Rolex from an authorized dealer. as I started to learn more about the hype, I was drawn to stainless steel sports models myself. I ultimately settled on a submariner as my first watch as I felt it was a fair compromise between price, recognition and quality. I began to reach out to every authorized dealer in my area and visit on a weekly to bi-weekly basis in order to form relationships. Only to authorized dealers do not laugh at me, so I had some hope that I would be able to form a relationship with them, although with each passing week that hope was starting to dwindle.

Current situation: however, yesterday I received a phone call from one of those authorized dealers. I had just made my weekly visit to them earlier in the week so I suppose I was fresh in their mind. they told me they had just received a shipment and that they had a two-tone root beer that they would be willing to offer me. given that I was so hyper focussed on stainless steel models, I never considered the root beer. I did some research overnight but didn't think that I would like it, none the less I decided to go in this morning to have more face time with them. I thought I was going to go in there and respectfully decline The watch, hoping that it didn't hurt our relationship and then I would still be in mind for future watches. However, I kind of fell in love with a watch. It's a beautiful piece. It's different, but not in a loud or flashy way. It's conservative and mature, which is more in line with my personal brand. It would be more appropriate for my work setting than a Pepsi or a Batman or Hulk. I convinced them to give me one night to sleep on it. They will hold it until tomorrow morning. I am out torn on whether or not they should be my purchase and my first watch in my collection.

Many thoughts are coming to mind, but the major ones are the following:
1) is the root beer a more respected watch than the submariner?
2) is the root beer worth the extra money? (Root beer = 17.5k CAD, submariner = 10.5k)
3) is the root beer more likely to appreciate, or at least hold its value, in comparison to the sub-mariner?
4) Is the root beer a difficult watch to get? Will I be kicking myself if I don't jump on this opportunity now?

any other perspectives of considerations you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

Pass.

If they can get you a CHNR and you're new to them, they can find a Sub Date in SS.

All this justifying bias and FOMO is no way to buy a watch.

[fooey]

If i were you i would wait a bit, yes...i think the Rootbeer is an amazing watch but if you pull the trigger and buy it your sure to get another call off them soon also offering you the Sub,
what would you do then?
Do you have the funds to get both? cause if you dont you will be pulling your hair our having to say no to the AD's Sub offer!
tough choice mate

[Bryan81]

Which do you like more, the Sub or this GMT? If you can only afford one in the near future, only settle for the one you want. Now, if you can (reasonably) afford both and really like this GMT, then go ahead and pull the trigger.

Personally, I like them both equally.


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[Parapraxis]

Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?

[logo]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?

I think the real question is removing hype, removing any watches in front of you currently, removing whatever people here tell you, what would you actually like to wear?

If you’re set on Rolex, that’s fine but don’t try and cognitively rationalize a purchase for a Rolex - it’s an irrational non-essential luxury item. Most here buy because they like it (not all...) but it’s very easy to get sucked into hype and end up buying something based on what others think you should have.

For reference, I have a two tone datejust - far from a “hot” Instagram model, but I wouldn’t trade it for any Daytona/Pepsi/etc because I bought it because I liked it best. Will it hold value? Reasonably, and certainly not to the extent that a Daytona would, but frankly I don’t care because it’s not going to be up for sale. Is the gold worth it? Strictly speaking the extra cost for the two tone model is more than the price of gold (so no not “worth” it’s cost in gold), but to me personally I put “worth” on it because the extra cost gets me what I wanted.

[danyvw]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.



A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).



If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?

You answered your own question. Forget about the hype and other BS. If you like it, BUY IT.

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[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Thank you all for the responses. I'm reading a lot more "don't get it" responses than I expected. Looks like I'm giving the impression that I don't like the watch and that I'm jumping on it because it's available. Which I didn't think I was doing, but if you've all felt that way from my post, maybe I need to evaluate that further.

A good question raised here is which do I like more: sub or root beer? And honestly, I don't LOVE the submariner, it just made sense cognitively for it to be my first watch (price, versatility and easily recognized as a Rolex).

If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?

I think you just answered you own question again!

If what you say applied to my situation I would be a CHNR owner in the very near future.

As it happens, I should be. I love this watch. I think it's the equal most stylish and visually clever TT watch Rolex make, along with the Blusey. Mine should be along any month now.

All the best with it.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

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If I were to able remove all the noise (hype, scarcity, appreciation potential, price) and I had the two watches infront of me; I would say the root beer is a watch I find better looking. Not sure if that should play into my decision?

I think that the TT black GMT and the TT black Sub Date are the best looking watch "look" that Rolex ever produced; I have both.

If you do lean towards the chocolate version GMT, nobody is going to question your decision, plenty here have chosen this watch over others.

Most folks give opinion that is their preference, not yours.

[franktehtank]

The root beer GMT is a beautiful watch. It's also quite different from a steel submariner. Only you can decide if it will satiate your craving for a sub or not.

I laugh at the people on here saying no one respects a sub. The sub is still the King of Rolex. It's the brand's most iconic watch. Too much time spent on internet forums, I think.

If I could only have one Rolex, or one watch for that matter, it'd be a steel black dial sub date. No pepsi, daytona, batman, hulk, etc (and I love all those watches), gimme a good ol' sub!

[904VT]

If you’re just starting your career both watches are too expensive now unless you’re well above 6 figures annually. Save longer and really think about what you want. Just my opinion

[MilesB]

The Root Beer is a more interesting piece. The Sub is a classic, but they are everywhere. If you want something to mark a milestone, go for the different piece, get the Root Beer.

[comanndr]

don't buy a watch that doesn't sing to you
it will cost you more in the long run
all my watches i can't stand to take off
you've had a lot of good advice
good luck mate
regards

[DBlue2018]

I’d avoid a normal sub as I’d hazard a guess that the majority of them you see are fakes

The root beer is far rarer and I’d jump on it

[Hollie_Rollie]

I would take the offer!

[Burlington]

If you’re just buying into the brand for peer recognition then the two tone would get spotted more readily.

[EndlessEight]

The root beer is an amazing watch.

If it’s going to be your only Rolex for a while I wouldn’t buy it and stay focused on the Sub.

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by EndlessEight

The root beer is an amazing watch.

If it’s going to be your only Rolex for a while I wouldn’t buy it and stay focused on the Sub.

If it's good, why not have it as my only Rolex for a while?

[EndlessEight]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

If it's good, why not have it as my only Rolex for a while?

In my opinion it’s not as versatile (dress to casual ratio).

If you disagree. Go for it!

Adding pics as well.




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[904VT]

Originally Posted by EndlessEight

In my opinion it’s not as versatile (dress to casual ratio).

If you disagree. Go for it!

Adding pics as well.




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I agree. I find the TT CHNR the most sporty of all with its contrast.
For dressier sport watch, I’d go full Everose GMT Master myself and save up.

[garyk]

Take it, never look the gift horse in the mouth! Seems like you have an opportunity to obtain a unique piece in a sea of not very many opportunities. Seriously, you cant go wrong...Good luck!!!

[comanndr]

if the root beer sings /talks to you etc
then its settled

[Setarip]

So many good posts with great advice here. Nothing more to add really - other than to affirm, “buy the watch that sings to you” If you fall in love with the CHNR after trying it on buy regardless (assuming you can afford it). Otherwise, pass and wait for the SS Sub.

I walked away from a CHNR and SS Skydweller a few weeks ago because neither appeals to me and I wouldn’t want to buy a watch just because it’s hard to find / get when I know the AD has a long list of guys who REALLY want those watches. (and I would never consider flipping!).

[Bob the brush]

I would buy a CHNR over a sub any day of the week, I have a LN version and its an absolutely fantastic bit of kit, I love it!

[jaisonline]

The modern GMT Root Beer is rose gold and stainless steel. That is a lot of cash to spend on a watch that mighy not be likely suitable for everyday wear unless you will.

If you really like the Root Beer (regardless if you like it as an everyday watch) why not go for a 2-tone SS / YG 16713 with the brown dial? That resembles the original and more iconic Root Beer that Clint Eastwood help make popular. 16713s from the early 2000s go for less than $10k USD. Save a ton of cash.

Random pic below is from Google...

[reddog4063]

Right now everything is hot but historically TT does not hold value well, keep that in mind.

That being said, the sub is the s-class of watches. Youre paying alot to see yourself coming and going. The rootbeer is a far MOre interesting choice for a budding WIS.

[jaisonline]

Originally Posted by reddog4063

Right now everything is hot but historically TT does not hold value well, keep that in mind.



That being said, the sub is the s-class of watches. Youre paying alot to see yourself coming and going. The rootbeer is a far MOre interesting choice for a budding WIS.

Exactly. I wouldn’t ever pay MSRP for a 2-tone watch. When the economy eventually goes south, 6-digit 2-tone watches will be among to first to take a hit.

The 5-digit 2-tone has been retired for a long time and will take a less hit (if any). Plus, the case isn’t the super-case version and screams “ look at me”.

Just my opinion that wasn’t asked for :)

[jjfesq]

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