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Old 25 August 2020, 12:10 AM   #1
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Great watch, congrats! I once in a while think about getting the baguette dial for a change of pace. I would look into sourcing an OEM baguette dial from someone who will not confiscate your original dial. That way, you can swap back if you ever want to, and sell your non-baguette dial watch as it originally came from the factory as well as separately selling the baguette dial if you ever want to.

I personally wouldn't want to lose the original dial in the swap, as I don't think I would forever want the flashier dial, but it would be fun to be able to have the dials swapped once in a while if I ever found myself desiring a different look. I will say, in 3 1/2 years of daily wear, I am not at all tired of looking at the original dial.
Thank you very much!

It won't be possible for me to source a baguette dial without giving away the original dial as I will make the swap at the RSC, if I decide to do it.

If I do ever sell the watch, would it be any different that I sell it with the baguette dial and not the original? There is no description of it on the warranty card anyway. Or is there another way to find out?
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:13 AM   #2
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If I do ever sell the watch, would it be any different that I sell it with the baguette dial and not the original? There is no description of it on the warranty card anyway. Or is there another way to find out?
As I said, the RSC will have a record of the dial swap. You should be honest with any potential buyer. Why risk your reputation?
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:01 AM   #3
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Even if the international warranty card doesn’t have dial information, I would still be honest with any potential buyers that you changed the dial. The reason is, the RSCs will have the service history for the watch and you don’t want a potential buyer finding out the dial was changed and you never disclosed that. It’s dishonest and it could affect your reputation for future sales.

Still, for many buyers a dial swap by RSC would not be an issue so I would go ahead and swap the dial so that you can wear the watch you truly want.
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:18 AM   #4
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Even if the international warranty card doesn’t have dial information, I would still be honest with any potential buyers that you changed the dial. The reason is, the RSCs will have the service history for the watch and you don’t want a potential buyer finding out the dial was changed and you never disclosed that. It’s dishonest and it could affect your reputation for future sales.

Still, for many buyers a dial swap by RSC would not be an issue so I would go ahead and swap the dial so that you can wear the watch you truly want.
Thank you.

So every RSC worldwide will have the service history for the watch and any potential buyer would be able to find that out from a RSC if they wanted to? If that is the case then I rather not swap the dial at all.

My local RSC told me that it wouldn't make any difference at all and the information for dial change are only for internal. In fact they even said that many AD's some times also change dials for their watches at RSC if they wanted to and sell it as that, some times requested by customers and some times not.

If you were to buy a Platinum Daytona with baguette on grey market today how would you know that it did or didn't come from the factory as a non baguette dial?
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:31 AM   #5
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Thank you very much again for your reply

Do you mind to tell me what reason you think I should keep the RSC paperwork after I change the dial? I am still confused about this that many people are saying to keep the paperwork (which I will keep anyway) but if there is no way to tell that the watch has had the dial changed, why do I need the paperwork for proof of anything if I do sell the watch at any point?

I am still confused it seems my questions are not understood fully yet.
See below. Provenance.
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Even if the international warranty card doesn’t have dial information, I would still be honest with any potential buyers that you changed the dial. The reason is, the RSCs will have the service history for the watch and you don’t want a potential buyer finding out the dial was changed and you never disclosed that. It’s dishonest and it could affect your reputation for future sales.

Still, for many buyers a dial swap by RSC would not be an issue so I would go ahead and swap the dial so that you can wear the watch you truly want.
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Old 25 August 2020, 12:39 AM   #6
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See below. Provenance.
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I didn't know that these information are disclosed to public or that anyone can find out these information?
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Old 25 August 2020, 04:54 AM   #7
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I have a 116506 with diamonds doesn’t state dial on the card. Neither do any of my other watches.
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Old 25 August 2020, 01:48 PM   #8
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I have a 116506 with diamonds doesn’t state dial on the card. Neither do any of my other watches.
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Old 25 August 2020, 02:01 AM   #9
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My observation is that many if not most of the purchasers of platinum watches with diamonds are not nearly as interested as many people on this site concerning documentation, papers etc. They see a beautiful watch, want it and produce the credit card.
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Old 25 August 2020, 02:05 AM   #10
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My observation is that many if not most of the purchasers of platinum watches with diamonds are not nearly as interested as many people on this site concerning documentation, papers etc. They see a beautiful watch, want it and produce the credit card.
Thank you .

I understand that, however I still would like to know all the information before I make the decision to swap the dial or not.
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Old 25 August 2020, 01:59 PM   #11
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Thank you .

I understand that, however I still would like to know all the information before I make the decision to swap the dial or not.

If you are still struggling with the idea that a future buyer could find out you swapped the dial, then I’d advise you not to swap it.


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Old 26 August 2020, 07:06 PM   #12
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If you are still struggling with the idea that a future buyer could find out you swapped the dial, then I’d advise you not to swap it.


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It doesn’t matter if it’s not stated on the card or changes the reference number. Especially if done by RSC.
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Old 27 August 2020, 11:49 AM   #13
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It doesn’t matter if it’s not stated on the card or changes the reference number. Especially if done by RSC.
I agree with this. As long as the dial is changed at a RSC and doesn’t change/affect your warranty and matches your card, which in this case it matches because your card doesn’t have dial description, then you can make the dial swap no worries. It won’t affect your sale in future.

IMO you should make the swap because the diamond dial Platona is beautiful. Congrats!
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Old 26 August 2020, 05:51 PM   #14
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Does anyone know if the hands are exactly same for the baguette and non-baguette dials? Do those have to be changed too if the dials are swapped?

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Old 28 August 2020, 03:27 AM   #15
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Does anyone know if the hands are exactly same for the baguette and non-baguette dials? Do those have to be changed too if the dials are swapped?

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Hands are different! A detail for sure, but it’s true, they are different.
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Old 28 August 2020, 03:56 AM   #16
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Hands are different! A detail for sure, but it’s true, they are different.
In what way? I compared the diamond dial online to my "base model" and didn't notice anything in the hands. Do the diamond dial hands have a manicure?
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:30 AM   #17
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In what way? I compared the diamond dial online to my "base model" and didn't notice anything in the hands. Do the diamond dial hands have a manicure?
The diamond dial hands have black on them.
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:59 AM   #18
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The diamond dial hands have black on them.
Ah, I saw that but wasn’t sure if it was an optical illusion.
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The diamond dial hands have black on them.

Agreed. It really helps with legibility. A subtle yet nice (and smart) touch.
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Old 26 August 2020, 07:20 PM   #20
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Warranty cards from the USA and some other countries usually have more information such as the dial colour and gem stones (if any). Warranty cards from Asia Pacific generally have the serial number and model number only. I wouldn't worry too much about it as you have mentioned the model number for the baguette and non baguette dial is the same.

Also, congratulations the Platona is a stunning watch!
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Old 27 August 2020, 02:28 PM   #21
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I love this thread so much- the ultimate 1% of the 1% thread. Jealous, OP, but with diamonds or without it's a killer watch!
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Old 27 August 2020, 04:29 PM   #22
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If you can’t keep the old dial I would not do it. It will not match the warranty card.

Might as well go with a aftermarket diamond dial and keep the original when it’s time to sell it or trade it.
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Old 27 August 2020, 06:37 PM   #23
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If you can’t keep the old dial I would not do it. It will not match the warranty card.

Might as well go with a aftermarket diamond dial and keep the original when it’s time to sell it or trade it.
Thank you for your reply. As I said and showed my card in previous posts, my warranty card does not have the dial description.
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Old 27 August 2020, 08:02 PM   #24
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Thank you for your reply. As I said and showed my card in previous posts, my warranty card does not have the dial description.
You going to go for it then?
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Old 28 August 2020, 04:32 AM   #25
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I think it depends also on which version of the warranty card you have - the newer version, which has the additional security features built into the snazzy graphics and, based on the pictures you posted, would contain additional information (i.e., "11 baguettes") - started coming out about two months ago (at least in the U.S.), while the old version may just contain the model number and serial. Putting aside for a moment RSC's record of service history, if you have the old warranty card, probably low risk, but if you have the new one I would think the exact specs of the watch (pre-dial switch) would come up when scanned. Either way, I would not suggest doing the dial switch unless you have exhausted the option sell the one you have and get one that is original in all respects. If I were a buyer I'd be upset if I found out the dial had been changed and that the switch had not been disclosed. In terms of resale value, marketability would also factor in, i.e., there are more potential buyers for a non-diamond dial than one with diamonds.
Either way, switch or no switch, a beautiful watch. Good luck!
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Old 28 August 2020, 05:43 AM   #26
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Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but the white drop tag has the dial information on it above the barcode. 116506-0001 without diamonds 116506-0002 with diamonds.
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Old 31 August 2020, 10:16 PM   #27
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I did the swap two years ago, but luckily I got to keep the «old one».
Still in my safe, but consider selling it.

The baguette dial is a real beauty :)

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I did the swap two years ago, but luckily I got to keep the «old one».
Still in my safe, but consider selling it.

The baguette dial is a real beauty :)

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Beautiful. Mine has the regular dial which is my preference but the diamond dial has started to grow on me recently.




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Old 18 April 2021, 05:30 PM   #29
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I have a 116506 I just bought brand new from my AD one month ago. It's the standard dial with brown subdials. The card only says 116506. No additional information. I'm considering having RSC swap my dial to the baguette dial. It would all be completely legitimate and offered by rolex. The only thing where it may be designated is the white hang tag saying 116506-001 (standard dial) vs 116506-002 (baguette dial). Would any potential buyer care if the white hang tag isn't included in the set? Otherwise there would be no way to know that the piece originally had the standard dial and then rolex did an official dial change. Having RSC do an official dial change is no different than it coming that way from the factory. All rolex parts, all rolex work. I just don't want to do anything that hurts value, but I can't see how this would.
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Would any potential buyer care if the white hang tag isn't included in the set? ... I just don't want to do anything that hurts value, but I can't see how this would.

No it wouldn’t really affect true value.

From the current grey market it actually enhances value more than the immediate cost of switching dials.




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