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Old 26 September 2020, 05:50 AM   #1
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Virtually perfect regulation for your daily wear. Epic!

My 'old' 40mm is about 0.5 sec fast a day... and the crown lines up too.
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Old 26 September 2020, 06:02 AM   #2
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Sorry, but that is unbelieveable and maybe impossible accuracy for a fully mechanical watch, but if it is really true you need to call Guinness book of world records, as that has to be one of the most accurate mechanical watches...
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Old 26 September 2020, 06:04 AM   #3
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Awesome!

My 14270 was running at +2 after wearing it for about a week. Good enough for me.
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Old 26 September 2020, 06:34 AM   #4
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Sorry, but that is unbelieveable and maybe impossible accuracy for a fully mechanical watch, but if it is really true you need to call Guinness book of world records, as that has to be one of the most accurate mechanical watches...
My $500 Tissot was running a net zero seconds fast or slow after 4 months of daily wear. It would speed up a second one day and slow down a second the next but never more than a couple a day.

Apparently this is much more accurate than I can expect most new Rolexes to be. But I know you're buying the form and not the accuracy and that it being good accuracy is close enough.
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Old 26 September 2020, 07:20 PM   #5
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Sorry, but that is unbelieveable and maybe impossible accuracy for a fully mechanical watch, but if it is really true you need to call Guinness book of world records, as that has to be one of the most accurate mechanical watches...
Don't apologize LOL. Moreover, I doubt if Guinness will be interested. I couldn't believe the accuracy myself but I checked the watch three times and obtained the same reading. I've had virtually every Rolex made, plus quartz and mechanical Omegas and Breitlings. I sold them all when I retired and wear my Sub 24/7 so maybe that pattern of use has something to do with the accuracy.
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Old 26 September 2020, 07:19 AM   #6
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Tissot themselves claim +/- 10 seconds a day. Perhaps you have the most accurate tissot ever. The factory would probably like to examine it.
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Old 26 September 2020, 09:06 AM   #7
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Tissot themselves claim +/- 10 seconds a day. Perhaps you have the most accurate tissot ever. The factory would probably like to examine it.
I read that my exact same movement was sent to COSC for certification and they just cost an extra $500+ for the COSC verified ones. I think the main difference was the Silicium has a composite escapement and silicon hairspring and the COSC ones were alloys. Maybe the composite/silicon ones are just over achievers.

Oh I did notice in those first couple of months with it that the resting position made a big difference in the accuracy. I tested different angles and found that resting it crown up was what kept it regular. I read that no two watches are alike and you have to test the resting position on all watches to figure out which way works best.
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Old 26 September 2020, 11:08 AM   #8
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I reset my 6 digit (block head) Submariner, purchased in November, 2019 in March to correspond with daylight savings time and haven't set it since. The watch is currently 5 seconds slow! Needless to say, I'm not interested in the new movement in the 20/20 Submariners.
Great watch and fabulous Rolex 3135 movement. You do not have a 1-1,000k movement; like yourself I reset my 9-year old 116610 twice a year and stay within 15 seconds of actual time. Many here feel that +-10 seconds/day, or whatever, means their watch is not accurate, when actually the same variance/day correlates to a very consistent movement. What's important is "consistency" based on all other factors that influence mechanical movements. Add expert regulation/precision/durability and you have a average Rolex movement.
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Old 26 September 2020, 09:13 PM   #9
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Great watch and fabulous Rolex 3135 movement. You do not have a 1-1,000k movement; like yourself I reset my 9-year old 116610 twice a year and stay within 15 seconds of actual time. Many here feel that +-10 seconds/day, or whatever, means their watch is not accurate, when actually the same variance/day correlates to a very consistent movement. What's important is "consistency" based on all other factors that influence mechanical movements. Add expert regulation/precision/durability and you have a average Rolex movement.
Today I just cannot understand the obsession in worrying about a few seconds out of 86400 in a day. Yes Rolex is a very expensive watch and a Swiss chronometer, but to bare that wording on the dial. First the bare uncased movement no dial or winding rotor is loaded into Rolex own machine at the Swiss COSC. The machine winds the watch and checks by time lapse photography over the 15 days test in different positions and temperatures to meet the COSC spec -4+6 seconds daily AVERAGE. And in the first 10 days of testing the movement could vary by up to 10 seconds on a single day and still pass the test. And yes many movements could pass the COSC test today, take the Chinese made Seagull ST19 movement after careful regulation can run a consistent +2 seconds a day. Cost of that movement around $50 and a very reliable movement, but will need much more regulation in a year to keep it there than a Rolex movement would.
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Old 26 September 2020, 10:03 PM   #10
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Today I just cannot understand the obsession in worrying about a few seconds out of 86400 in a day. Yes Rolex is a very expensive watch and a Swiss chronometer, but to bare that wording on the dial. First the bare uncased movement no dial or winding rotor is loaded into Rolex own machine at the Swiss COSC. The machine winds the watch and checks by time lapse photography over the 15 days test in different positions and temperatures to meet the COSC spec -4+6 seconds daily AVERAGE. And in the first 10 days of testing the movement could vary by up to 10 seconds on a single day and still pass the test. And yes many movements could pass the COSC test today, take the Chinese made Seagull ST19 movement after careful regulation can run a consistent +2 seconds a day. Cost of that movement around $50 and a very reliable movement, but will need much more regulation in a year to keep it there than a Rolex movement would.
It is indeed an interesting phenomenon.

IMOP it is like not being able to appreciate the old growth forest for focusing on the hybrid potted tree you picked up at Lowes, in a snapshot of time, without regard to the amount of miracle grow and pruning that it took to get to that point and what it will be required in the future.

Agree on the Seagull, and for it's cost it is impressive. But the ST19 is not comparable to a Rolex movement.

As to the Tissot (a/k/a Swatch) Powermatic referred to above, it is also impressive for its price. But how long it will run like it does out of the box is questionable, as indeed is finding someone to regulate it a few years down the road. And what the case and bracelet will look like after heavy long term use is another matter entirely.

https://calibercorner.com/tissot-caliber-powermatic-80/

Again. My $20 Casio is impressive for its cost and purpose. But a watch that will last half a century it is not.

It's very much like my half century old Massey Ferguson. Yes, you can buy several cheap tractors for the price of a well made tractor. And yes, they look shiny and run great when you get them home. But how will they do 50 years down the road? You may not care about that. So, buy the cheap tractor.
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Old 26 September 2020, 02:12 PM   #11
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I reset my 6 digit (block head) Submariner, purchased in November, 2019 in March to correspond with daylight savings time and haven't set it since. The watch is currently 5 seconds slow! Needless to say, I'm not interested in the new movement in the 20/20 Submariners.
Great movement. Shame about the watch
Just kidding

An outstanding result for the ownership experience.
I love the "block head"thing too
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Old 26 September 2020, 03:54 PM   #12
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Same here - it's the start of Daylight saving here later this evening, so I advanced the time by an hour this afternoon ready for tomorrow on my 2019 114060. In doing so I just realised I have not adjusted it for at least the last two months that it has been my daily wear....it's within a second after all that time!
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Old 26 September 2020, 05:47 PM   #13
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I suspect this concentration on implausible levels of mechanical precision leads to long-term disappointment. You can be lucky, for a while. And Rolex make some of the best movements. But mechanical watches are inherently flawed , imperfect.
Just enjoy them. I gave up timing my Rolex years ago. Unless it’s causing problems, why bother? I mean, would you check your car against the stopwatch every month?
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Old 27 September 2020, 02:49 AM   #14
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The same watch on a different person will have a different accuracy. Also, if your individual wear pattern changes, your accuracy will change.

My buddy’s sub was consistently 2.5 spd fast. He is an engineer, and worked on a computer for eight hours a day. His watch spent a lot of time dial up during the day. He recently retired, and now his watch consistently runs 1.5 spd fast. Because he doesn’t spend all that time on the computer anymore, and his watch isn’t face up all day, it consistently runs at a different rate.
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Old 27 September 2020, 09:36 PM   #15
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The same watch on a different person will have a different accuracy. Also, if your individual wear pattern changes, your accuracy will change.
I wear my Sub 24/7 and walk 3.5 miles with my dog every day. Perhaps that wear pattern contributes to the uncanny accuracy because I wear the watch on my walks and naturally give it a swinging motion as I move.
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