Would You Take This From The AD?

[brandrea]

I’d never buy one watch just to get another

[Jack T]

Why are we, the customers, the ones who have to suck up to the AD to build a relationship?

[daOnlyBG]

Originally Posted by Jack T

Why are we, the customers, the ones who have to suck up to the AD to build a relationship?

Because for every individual watch priced at MSRP (not reference number, but literal watch) there are dozens of customers waiting for it, and the ADs know.

Because the general public doesn't realize that the new dealer discount is the chance to buy at MSRP and not 20% off, like in the old days.

We the public have no leverage. It's why buying jewelry from one of these places goes a mile.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by daOnlyBG

Because for every individual watch priced at MSRP (not reference number, but literal watch) there are dozens of customers waiting for it, and the ADs know.

Because the general public doesn't realize that the new dealer discount is the chance to buy at MSRP and not 20% off, like in the old days.

We the public have no leverage. It's why buying jewelry from oneof these places goes a mile.

Exactly this!

Originally Posted by Jack T

Why are we, the customers, the ones who have to suck up to the AD to build a relationship?

You’ll find you have significantly more leverage with the very same AD if you don’t want to buy the same watches everybody and their dog wants to buy. Hard as it is to imagine there’s plenty of amazing brands and products out there that ADs will bend over backwards to sell you

[Jack T]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Exactly this!



You’ll find you have significantly more leverage with the very same AD if you don’t want to buy the same watches everybody and their dog wants to buy. Hard as it is to imagine there’s plenty of amazing brands and products out there that ADs will bend over backwards to sell you

Perhaps, but for the vast majority of people posting on TRF, they’re after the same four Rolex models that everybody and their dog wants.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by Jack T

Perhaps, but for the vast majority of people posting on TRF, they’re after the same four Rolex models that everybody and their dog wants.

And that’s the problem.

My point is simply; for high demand items the seller holds the cards, for average/low demand items the buyer holds the cards. We can’t have our cake and eat it.

[Rolster]

Originally Posted by daOnlyBG

Because for every individual watch priced at MSRP (not reference number, but literal watch) there are dozens of customers waiting for it, and the ADs know.

Because the general public doesn't realize that the new dealer discount is the chance to buy at MSRP and not 20% off, like in the old days.

We the public have no leverage. It's why buying jewelry from one of these places goes a mile.

IF every model Rolex is at MSRP, then there would be no need for the AD to offer as a "bundle". They will sell the "weaker" watch of the two at a discount on its own.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Jack T

Why are we, the customers, the ones who have to suck up to the AD to build a relationship?

Now there is the point I have been making the last 3 years. No friggen watch is worth playing these games. Pony up the coin and buy the BLRO from one of our trusted sellers if that’s the watch you really want.

[Rolster]

Originally Posted by Jack T

Why are we, the customers, the ones who have to suck up to the AD to build a relationship?

So true!! And buying a watch you don't love just to be considered for another will only worsen the current twisted customer/AD relationship. Dont do it man!

[TimeAZ]

Never buy a watch that you don't want.
Only buy pieces you'd love to have and keep.

[Rado63]

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

Hi everyone,

I've just been offered a Day Date 40mm, champaign dial with roman numeral markers.

I'm thinking about getting this watch to build a relationship with the AD (so I can get closer to my grail of getting the Pepsi GMT *been wanting this since 2018).

What are you guys' thoughts of getting this piece, wear it a for a while (due to the pandemic, there are fewer events that I can wear gold watches to compared to prior) and potentially selling it later?

I'm not familiar with the Day Date market value or as an investment piece... so I'm hoping to get an advice whether this piece will at least hold 85% of its value.

I don't want to be buying a watch that doesn't hold value at this particular time.

Updates: *Should've provided more info. :-)

#1 - The AD quoted me USD34.5K. (There's no tax, and this is an AD I've bought from before)
#2 - DD40 is definitely one watch that I would like to add to my collection, just unsure whether I want champagne dial / black dial.
#3 - I'm definitely not buying this DD to get the GMT. (But it helps, I would like to buy from this AD). I would still really appreciate this DD and would like to wear it.

PS: Been a silent reader for a year now, finally posting first post/thread in this forum.

PSS: I know watches are not supposed to be investment.

So you want to build a relationship with the AD? You mentioned you already purchased there before. Did they just call you out of the blue, and offer a 228238 with a small discount and no sales tax? Lucky you, Where I live we have to pay sales tax. And what you really want is a GMT pepsi. Here is my advice. Call all the secondary market dealers and see what they will pay you for the Daydate unworn, no links taken out. Sell it the the day after you buy it. Then you will know where you stand in regards to value retention. Best is to ask your AD for the pepsi and the daydate together, otherwise they will call you next month with some other watch you don't want like a deep sea, or two tone date just. Then, after one day date and two more purchases you might get a Pepsi.

[onthewaitlist]

Originally Posted by Rado63

So you want to build a relationship with the AD? You mentioned you already purchased there before. Did they just call you out of the blue, and offer a 228238 with a small discount and no sales tax? Lucky you, Where I live we have to pay sales tax. And what you really want is a GMT pepsi. Here is my advice. Call all the secondary market dealers and see what they will pay you for the Daydate unworn, no links taken out. Sell it the the day after you buy it. Then you will know where you stand in regards to value retention. Best is to ask your AD for the pepsi and the daydate together, otherwise they will call you next month with some other watch you don't want like a deep sea, or two tone date just. Then, after one day date and two more purchases you might get a Pepsi.

I text my AD every few months to see what stock they have. (They’re about 6 hours drive away from me but I used to go to their city often for business)

He replied back saying that one of the watches that I am interested in (DD40) will be here soon and he was going to call me to tell me about it soon.

Honestly, I really used to WANT Pepsi but after all this crazy hype - my desire for Pepsi has actually started to dwindle.

Yeah I’ll reach out to dealers and see what they say

[shkure]

You should buy that DD for sure OP. But either ask for it to be bundled with a Pepsi (which most likely wont happen) or ask for a 10% discount (which will likely happen). I just got a 10% discount on a full Everose Rootbeer. After the discount there is no way you loose in the DD and it gets you closer to the Pepsi.


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[Rolster]

[QUOTE=shkure;11322614]You should buy that DD for sure OP. But either ask for it to be bundled with a Pepsi (which most likely wont happen) or ask for a 10% discount (which will likely happen). I just got a 10% discount on a full Everose Rootbeer. After the discount there is no way you loose in the DD and it gets you closer to the Pepsi.


Excellent job getting 10% off on the full Everose Rootbeer. But I don't know if I would agree with "no way you lose in the DD". OP, call a trusted Grey and see what they are BUYING that champagne DD for....you might be surprised.

[shkure]

[QUOTE=Rolster;11322947]

Originally Posted by shkure

You should buy that DD for sure OP. But either ask for it to be bundled with a Pepsi (which most likely wont happen) or ask for a 10% discount (which will likely happen). I just got a 10% discount on a full Everose Rootbeer. After the discount there is no way you loose in the DD and it gets you closer to the Pepsi.


Excellent job getting 10% off on the full Everose Rootbeer. But I don't know if I would agree with "no way you lose in the DD". OP, call a trusted Grey and see what they are BUYING that champagne DD for....you might be surprised.

The absolute lowest i see the yellow gold/champagne/roman DD in Chrono is USD 40k. I would comfortably say that the OP can go to any gray market dealer and get $35k for it if unworn. OP, have a few calls to local grays and see what they would offer. I would be shocked if its below $35k.


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[Rolster]

[QUOTE=shkure;11322970]

Originally Posted by Rolster

The absolute lowest i see the yellow gold/champagne/roman DD in Chrono is USD 40k. I would comfortably say that the OP can go to any gray market dealer and get $35k for it if unworn. OP, have a few calls to local grays and see what they would offer. I would be shocked if its below $35k.


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I'm only offering this because I went through the process myself. Asking price on Chrono 24 is not the sale price, nor what a dealer is willing to buy your watch. Just saying, take a deeper dive. Cheers.

[Gab27]

I agree with just getting what you want from a trusted secondary seller rather than spending a fortune on something you like but don't necessarily love. I had a little apprehension about going this way at first. Luckily, with all of the feedback here about trusted sellers, I started perusing websites and found the watch I wanted at a (secondary) price I considered acceptable, I made the purchase, and I am very happy I did.

[drrd]

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

Hi everyone,

I've just been offered a Day Date 40mm, champaign dial with roman numeral markers.

I'm thinking about getting this watch to build a relationship with the AD (so I can get closer to my grail of getting the Pepsi GMT *been wanting this since 2018).

What are you guys' thoughts of getting this piece, wear it a for a while (due to the pandemic, there are fewer events that I can wear gold watches to compared to prior) and potentially selling it later?

I'm not familiar with the Day Date market value or as an investment piece... so I'm hoping to get an advice whether this piece will at least hold 85% of its value.

I don't want to be buying a watch that doesn't hold value at this particular time.

Updates: *Should've provided more info. :-)

#1 - The AD quoted me USD34.5K. (There's no tax, and this is an AD I've bought from before)
#2 - DD40 is definitely one watch that I would like to add to my collection, just unsure whether I want champagne dial / black dial.
#3 - I'm definitely not buying this DD to get the GMT. (But it helps, I would like to buy from this AD). I would still really appreciate this DD and would like to wear it.

PS: Been a silent reader for a year now, finally posting first post/thread in this forum.

PSS: I know watches are not supposed to be investment.

So buy it.

Make it clear you're looking for other watches.

If they don't come up with more then go to anther AD and try again.

Forget greys unless you're purely short-term, or long-term you've money to burn.

[Jas14]

I’m impressed with the discount on the rootbeer gmt!!

[Brew]

My only question when considering that watch is, should I go for diamonds?

[Tikandtokalot]

Only buy a watch you want and if the price isn't a big deal then go grey.
It makes no sense to put up with all this complication and then make a loss.

[jcarm981]

Here come the “discounts are back” posts incoming.

[Fleetlord]

I like the DD better than the Pepsi!

That being said, just buy Pepsi from Grey and be done with it, especially if that’s all you’re interested in.

[Benzsiam]

Day-Date at $34.5k at your AD is a lot better buy than $20k for Pepsi at grey.

I am surprised that they give you pretty good discount, nowadays is very hard to find any discount for Rolex.

This Day-Date is not the best looking for this model but it is one of the iconic timepiece for Rolex.

The main thing is you buy only if you really like it.

[LTlhr]

My golden rule is only buy a watch you really want. Sounds to me like the DD you're being offered isn't the exact one you want, so say no and wait for the right one to come along.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

I'm thinking about getting this watch to build a relationship with the AD (so I can get closer to my grail of getting the Pepsi GMT *been wanting this since 2018).

Ok, you could just buy the watch you want today from someone on the forum

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

What are you guys' thoughts of getting this piece, wear it a for a while (due to the pandemic, there are fewer events that I can wear gold watches to compared to prior) and potentially selling it later?

When? To whom? How much do you hope to get back?

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

I'm not familiar with the Day Date market value or as an investment piece... so I'm hoping to get an advice whether this piece will at least hold 85% of its value.

You could look at the sales forum for previous sales, how long you hold will likely determine its value

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

I don't want to be buying a watch that doesn't hold value at this particular time.

Then why buy what you don't want?

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

Updates: *Should've provided more info. :-)

DD40 is definitely one watch that I would like to add to my collection, just unsure whether I want champagne dial / black dial.

Then why buy it?

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

#3 - I'm definitely not buying this DD to get the GMT. (But it helps, I would like to buy from this AD). I would still really appreciate this DD and would like to wear it.

But you said you were?

Originally Posted by onthewaitlist

PSS: I know watches are not supposed to be investment.

If you know when you want to sell and how much you expect to make, then that is an investment.

[RayRay89]

Try to bundle it, or ask for a WG DD to bundle if you’re not much of a gold person

[CLTRolex]

What a world we live in.
People buying something they don’t want (in excess of 5 figures) just (JUST) to have a possible chance to be allowed the honor of buying something they want (in excess! of 5 figures).

To those people, I would highly recommend a cold shower followed by a trip to the looney bin


PS: DD and OP with champagne dials are no longer in style. Since the 80s...

[Fleetlord]

Originally Posted by CLTRolex

What a world we live in.
People buying something they don’t want (in excess of 5 figures) just (JUST) to have a possible chance to be allowed the honor of buying something they want (in excess! of 5 figures).

To those people, I would highly recommend a cold shower followed by a trip to the looney bin


PS: DD and OP with champagne dials are no longer in style. Since the 80s...

I understand what you're stating, but it's all relative.

The costs involved here might be insignificant and irrelevant to some, so it's really not of any concern other than aligning themselves to acquire what they are chasing...hence Rolex marketing and distribution strategies are proving their effectiveness once again. The pull of the "scarce" Pepsi is so strong it creates a PM sale to someone not really looking for one, but suddenly considering it...

[CLTRolex]

Originally Posted by Fleetlord

I understand what you're stating, but it's all relative.

The costs involved here might be insignificant and irrelevant to some, so it's really not of any concern other than aligning themselves to acquire what they are chasing...hence Rolex marketing and distribution strategies are proving their effectiveness once again. The pull of the "scarce" Pepsi is so strong it creates a PM sale to someone not really looking for one, but suddenly considering it...

I’d say if cost is irrelevant then get it at a grey. There is no point in postering or pretending to dance with a SA.