Where is the IWC Genta Ingenieur?

[Ravager135]

As far the Aquatimer, that line needs some kind of direction. For one, I don't like chronographs on dive watches. I think that's a lot of bloat that should be cut out immediately. I do like the rubberized Galapagos offering. I would like to see that on a simple, time only Aquatimer at a slightly smaller size. How they design it, whether they continue with an internal versus external rotating bezel, that's up to them. I think the idea of having a super-compressor case (as they were one of the few brands to roll it out at the same time alongside JLC and others).

I also have seen numerous complaints about their quick change strap system, especially in the Aquatimer. I'm personally not a fan. I prefer my dive watches to be as secure as possible.

[imran16520]

[deuxani]

Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

Honestly, in this market, you could release a watch made of tin and chicken wire and people will buy it if it has an integrated bracelet and blue dial.

On top of that, people will fall on their sword at the alter of Genta. IWC are among the very few brands in the enviable position to have a legitimate Genta design. Them not using it in this market is borderline lunacy.

Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking. I totally don’t understand what they are doing over there. Even the GP Laureato is now going for over 20K! IWC has gold in their hands, but decided to just do nothing with it. Weird business strategy.

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Well I think there is an issue here... Aside from the Portuguese, Portofino, and Da Vinci lines, IWC is not really interested in making their watches look "luxury." The Ingenieur and Aquatimer, like the Pilot line, are tool watches. IWC amplifies this sport aesthetic by brushing the cases, using matte dials, and what some would consider very conservative design.

I do agree that the Ingenieur could do better to bridge that tool/luxury divide. We have a luxury design, but a tool purpose. I think IWC took a step in the wrong direction when they oversized the Ingenieur, tied it into collaborations with automakers, etc. So to your point, restraint in sportiness should be considered.

I also don't think that they should try to make it another Royal Oak. It really should be marketed as a strong anti-magnetic, conservative, multi-purpose watch with a beautiful history design language that can equally make it versatile as an Aqua Terra or Datejust would be.

Obviously these are just my opinions. I'm actually holding a spot in my collection open right now to see what we get (if anything) from this particular line when IWC releases their new stuff in the coming weeks.

I agree partially. The Pilot and Aquatimer are super toolish, but the Portofino and Da Vinci are super dressy. The Portugieser is a “cool” dresser so they could easily make the Ingenieur a dressy sports watch (which the current line actually is). Aaah well, maybe they will :)

Originally Posted by imran16520

Hope so!

[Frits1980]

Genta designed the RO in one night, The Nautilus in 5min and the Ingenieur in 5 seconds while drunk.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Frits1980

Genta designed the RO in one night, The Nautilus in 5min and the Ingenieur in 5 seconds while drunk.

Soooo, you’re saying you like whiskey?

[cbalster]

Originally Posted by Frits1980

Genta designed the RO in one night, The Nautilus in 5min and the Ingenieur in 5 seconds while drunk.

You forgot about the Cartier Pasha

[ILoveFerrari]

2023 Watch and Wonder. Not 2022.

[deuxani]

Originally Posted by ilovegt

2023 Watch and Wonder. Not 2022.

I hope you are wrong

[ILoveFerrari]

Originally Posted by deuxani

I hope you are wrong

:)

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[Easy E]

Originally Posted by ilovegt

2023 watch and wonder. Not 2022.

2022

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Easy E

2022

My bad. I had talked to an IWC mfg rep yesterday, they told me yes, new Ingenieur will be released. So much for that.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Easy E

My bad. I had talked to an IWC mfg rep yesterday, they told me yes, new Ingenieur will be released. So much for that.

Hold up. I take back my take back. May still happen. I have an invite for a screening tomorrow that is likely to include other new releases. I will update after.

[gretch6364]

Originally Posted by Easy E

Hold up. I take back my take back. May still happen. I have an invite for a screening tomorrow that is likely to include other new releases. I will update after.

Would be sweet to see something new from them!

I still keep hoping for a redesign of the aquatimer as well.

[pp3355]

The 3521 is the bees knees

[londonpilgrim]

yes, it is coming soon, but probably not this year. They want to get it right.

[deuxani]

So again only Pilots. I’m very disappointed in IWC and will look elsewhere for the time being.

[Ravager135]

IWC disappoints this year with more of the same. The Pilot line is way too bloated.

The only positive takeaway here is that IWC, like many other brands these days, does tend to release things throughout the year. It's plausible that they are using Watches and Wonders to release their top sellers and may more quietly overhaul the Ingenieur later in the year. That said, it's probably wishful thinking. IWC only seems to care about the Pilot and Portuguese.

[Easy E]

No Ingenieur or Aquatimer announced.

[gretch6364]

Originally Posted by Easy E

No Ingenieur or Aquatimer announced.

Booooo

[deuxani]

So.... this might finally be the year! Hoping for this look:

[MILGAUSS88]

The Omega Globemaster Constellation is an updated Gerald Genta design.
Although I prefer the original Pie Pan design with dog leg lugs.

[trackingtime]

just saw the new catalog on the new Genta Ingenieur from the iwc boutique
they retro-ed it, bringing the original designs back
4 models, 3 steel, 1 titanium
it's pretty sick, can't wait for the news to break during watches and wonder 2023.

[deuxani]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

just saw the new catalog on the new Genta Ingenieur from the iwc boutique
they retro-ed it, bringing the original designs back
4 models, 3 steel, 1 titanium
it's pretty sick, can't wait for the news to break during watches and wonder 2023.

And did you like the design? Does it resemble the photos above or is it different? Just wondering if the bracelet has a good taper :)

[edo]

Hope they keep it to 40mm, good tapper and with textured dial...

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by edo

Hope they keep it to 40mm, good tapper and with textured dial...

it is imagine this

[edo]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

it is imagine this

Great news... so after looong time IWC will have a watch that you can't buy entering any of theirs boutiques in the world... and they waited for so long for that...

And glad to see they totally retro-ed it... look what Vacheron did with 222... minor tweaks on legendary design...

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by deuxani

And did you like the design? Does it resemble the photos above or is it different? Just wondering if the bracelet has a good taper :)

yes i already have my name on it for 1 of the models
i believe its 40mm or might be 41mm.
it has the integrated bracelet with the new 5 days PR in house self winding movement. it's quite similar to the original genta design, basically a retro-ed. a fully replacement of the current line.

from the usual black/white dial, there's a special color dial which i hope it's sick in real life when they announce the piece.

the titanium version is all brushed matte look

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

yes i already have my name on it for 1 of the models
i believe its 40mm or might be 41mm.
it has the integrated bracelet with the new 5 days PR in house self winding movement. it's quite similar to the original genta design, basically a retro-ed. a fully replacement of the current line.

from the usual black/white dial, there's a special color dial which i hope it's sick in real life when they announce the piece.

the titanium version is all brushed matte look

Wish it had been downsized a bit, as they always tended towards large. Was hoping to hear IWC had taken some cues from Zenith when it released the Skyline 36 (or GP reintroducing the Laureato 38).

[trackingtime]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Wish it had been downsized a bit, as they always tended towards large. Was hoping to hear IWC had taken some cues from Zenith when it released the Skyline 36 (or GP reintroducing the Laureato 38).

36 is too small for the current market. look at rolex, downsized and it's a flop

having it at 40mm is perfect. they don't just cater to watch enthusiast/purist.
they have to cater to the mass public who feels 40mm is the right size.

if it's a 36, i would pass on it too. too small even though i have 36 day-date but that works because its vintage.

[deuxani]

Originally Posted by trackingtime

yes i already have my name on it for 1 of the models
i believe its 40mm or might be 41mm.
it has the integrated bracelet with the new 5 days PR in house self winding movement. it's quite similar to the original genta design, basically a retro-ed. a fully replacement of the current line.

from the usual black/white dial, there's a special color dial which i hope it's sick in real life when they announce the piece.

the titanium version is all brushed matte look

That’s really good to hear! And congrats on the incoming :)

Two things I’m most curious about is if the bracelet has a decent taper and if the bezel is as thick as the original.

I’m not a fan of this bracelet as it makes the watch look more like a bracelet that tells time. There is almost no taper here. Especially if you compare it.