Journey to Batman

[JPBlackBay]

It can be done! Be patient and good luck.

[ThePalletFork]

I hope you are able to get the Batman!

I am still pretty shocked that most prefer on oyster. I must be in the minority who love it on jubilee.

I find that the jubilee just adds that extra pop of wrist presence, shows scratches less, and just compliments a collection better when subs, daytonas, yachtmasters, exploere 2s, OPs are all on oyster.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by ThePalletFork

I hope you are able to get the Batman!

I am still pretty shocked that most prefer on oyster. I must be in the minority who love it on jubilee.

I find that the jubilee just adds that extra pop of wrist presence, shows scratches less, and just compliments a collection better when subs, daytonas, yachtmasters, exploere 2s, OPs are all on oyster.

You are not, many of us and I much prefer it on Jubilee.

[marc12]

i turned down a black dial daytona for blnr, they both arrived within 3 months of me asking (this was in 2019). after seeing the price disparity now i am going rope shopping



blnr is a little more ubiquitous than blro so you may have a good chance of getting one honestly.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by marc12

i turned down a black dial daytona for blnr, they both arrived within 3 months of me asking (this was in 2019). after seeing the price disparity now i am going rope shopping



blnr is a little more ubiquitous than blro so you may have a good chance of getting one honestly.

What a fantastic photo of the blnr, I can see why you went with it!

[bob sims]

Originally Posted by Batman_GMTV2

Hi all,

I am about to start my Rolex journey and came on here to pick up some tips, admire some great watches and enjoy everyones time pieces.

The target: GMT Master II Batman


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No need for much of a journey. There are 2 or 3 VERY legitimate grey dealers in the UK you can pick up same day a brand new specimen of that very available watch.

[Sprezzatura!,]

Originally Posted by Batman_GMTV2

Hi all,

I am about to start my Rolex journey and came on here to pick up some tips, admire some great watches and enjoy everyones time pieces.

The target: GMT Master II Batman


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Rolex Journey????

Yuuuk. It’s just such a hideous term. You’ve definitely been sat down by some self righteous, corny, AD who’s had you holding on to his every word.

Anyway, good luck with that!

[Shaitan]

Buy mine, I hate it. Will throw in the super Jubilee bracelet 63600 too. 2021, like new. Saves you the “journey” and I get rid of it


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[CoveWatch]

Welcome OP and good luck! Blnr is a very nice and easy wearing watch

[boricuajr]

a great choice, I got real lucky, got mine in 2016 as she was putting it in the case. the Batman is my daily and combines with almost every outfit. should be easier to get than the other popular models

[B2 Stealth]

Spectacular reference! Enjoy mine tremendously! Best of luck on your BLNR journey!

[Batman_GMTV2]

Update.

Thanks for all the positive messages and luck sent my way, I appreciate the naysayers too, the grey market is a no go because I refuse to pay a penny over retail- I am hustling myself by doing that.

I booked an appointment and got a confirmation call, went down to see them.

My SA was a young woman, she began by telling me how in demand the model was and how it has shot up in popularity over the last few years..then she hit me with it.

All high demand Rolex models cannot be sold or registered for new customers with no Rolex purchase history. I argued my case that buying a watch to facilitate the one I want does not make financial or aesthetic sense as the ones I have interest in will be high demand.

She advised that by listing or obtaining the watch for me she would lose her job. She then proceeded to advise me that some options to start my journey would be the Explorer, Air King and Sub Bluezy.

We spoke about flippers, she openly admitted that a lot of people buy watches and flip just to reach their desired watch, appreciated that this was not my method.

I was surprised by the offer of the bluezy and did consider it at first but then looking at the difference of 3.5k from my desired watch, I advised her I will think about it.

She encouraged me to look at the range and handed my a brochure, packaged in a bag and I with a bow which was rather funny, really wanted me to feel wanted.

I am considering my options now going forward, I do like the Sub but I would be listing just so I can facilitate the Batman.

A good friend of mine said, embrace the phrase ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ list for the bluezy and then flip that when it comes and await the Batman with a small profit and a step closer to my goal. I feel conflicted as I do not want to fuel the market which has facilitated extortionate prices, at the same time if the only way to get my model is to get another one, then by selling that model I can facilitate my listing and purchase. Open to any suggestions and advice.


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[travisb]

Even in buying another watch you don't want you're never guaranteed the one you really want. Tough time to be a first time buyer. Good luck on the hunt!

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Batman_GMTV2

Update.

Thanks for all the positive messages and luck sent my way, I appreciate the naysayers too, the grey market is a no go because I refuse to pay a penny over retail- I am hustling myself by doing that.

I booked an appointment and got a confirmation call, went down to see them.

My SA was a young woman, she began by telling me how in demand the model was and how it has shot up in popularity over the last few years..then she hit me with it.

All high demand Rolex models cannot be sold or registered for new customers with no Rolex purchase history. I argued my case that buying a watch to facilitate the one I want does not make financial or aesthetic sense as the ones I have interest in will be high demand.

She advised that by listing or obtaining the watch for me she would lose her job. She then proceeded to advise me that some options to start my journey would be the Explorer, Air King and Sub Bluezy.

We spoke about flippers, she openly admitted that a lot of people buy watches and flip just to reach their desired watch, appreciated that this was not my method.

I was surprised by the offer of the bluezy and did consider it at first but then looking at the difference of 3.5k from my desired watch, I advised her I will think about it.

She encouraged me to look at the range and handed my a brochure, packaged in a bag and I with a bow which was rather funny, really wanted me to feel wanted.

I am considering my options now going forward, I do like the Sub but I would be listing just so I can facilitate the Batman.

A good friend of mine said, embrace the phrase ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ list for the bluezy and then flip that when it comes and await the Batman with a small profit and a step closer to my goal. I feel conflicted as I do not want to fuel the market which has facilitated extortionate prices, at the same time if the only way to get my model is to get another one, then by selling that model I can facilitate my listing and purchase. Open to any suggestions and advice.


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Don’t flip. That’s my advice.
If you want a Batman as a one and done, go grey market.
Less hassle and much much quicker.

[Alex71168]

I reckon you went to a WOS group shop as the comments you posted are exactly what they all say of pat, heard it just yesterday almost verbatim.

I’d also advise against flipping as they have told me the do have a team looking at used watches and if you are found as a flipper they will not sell you another watch.

Good luck though. Try a smaller independent AD you might have more lucky but unlikely.

[Shaitan]

Originally Posted by Alex71168

I reckon you went to a WOS group shop as the comments you posted are exactly what they all say of pat, heard it just yesterday almost verbatim.

I’d also advise against flipping as they have told me the do have a team looking at used watches and if you are found as a flipper they will not sell you another watch.

Good luck though. Try a smaller independent AD you might have more lucky but unlikely.

They sell to a ton of flippers and to get caught you literally have to post pictures with warranty card or the serial visible in the rehaut on Chrono or EBay. Flipped a watch bought from WOS last year - no angry emails yet.


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[fskywalker]

Welcome and good luck !


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[Boothroyd]

Well, welcome, first of all. The issue in general is finding inventory available at list price. You used to be able to walk into an AD, try on several models, make your selection and haggle a bit over the price.

Now, as you will read on multiple threads, demand has skewed the entire engagement model and customer experience.

Good luck on your journey, and again, welcome!

[GeoffEff]

Welcome to the forums AND to the Rolex journey!

I started my journey on October 22, 2018 to be specific. The morning after our wedding before we boarded our flight for our honeymoon. Called around to multiple Rolex ADs looking for an Explorer 217270. I didn't know they were hard to get as I had been tunnelvisioned OMEGA my whole life. Unfortunately was chuckled at by most stores except one - Longs Jewelers in Peabody, MA. Matthew Bailly was the Sales Rep that day and he told me when one came in he'd give me a call. At that time, we had given up and started to finish packing our suitcases when an hour or so later Matt called me back to tell me one had come in. We immediately drove down and picked it up - this had me hooked.

Over the next two years I waffled over a Sub no date. Was even offered one in late 2019 by Matthew in Peabody but couldn't bring myself to do it. Fast forward to last year, May 2021 Matt now manages the beautiful Rolex boutique on Newbury St for Longs. My wife and I set up a visit a month or two in advance and to my surprise, he had a new 2020 Sub no date model waiting for me. I now have these two in my collection and have voiced my desire for a GMT 2 Batman as well. Hoping I am on a list and will wait however long is needed.

Best of luck!

[dvn]

Originally Posted by GeoffEff

Welcome to the forums AND to the Rolex journey!

I started my journey on October 22, 2018 to be specific. The morning after our wedding before we boarded our flight for our honeymoon. Called around to multiple Rolex ADs looking for an Explorer 217270. I didn't know they were hard to get as I had been tunnelvisioned OMEGA my whole life. Unfortunately was chuckled at by most stores except one - Longs Jewelers in Peabody, MA. Matthew Bailly was the Sales Rep that day and he told me when one came in he'd give me a call. At that time, we had given up and started to finish packing our suitcases when an hour or so later Matt called me back to tell me one had come in. We immediately drove down and picked it up - this had me hooked.

Over the next two years I waffled over a Sub no date. Was even offered one in late 2019 by Matthew in Peabody but couldn't bring myself to do it. Fast forward to last year, May 2021 Matt now manages the beautiful Rolex boutique on Newbury St for Longs. My wife and I set up a visit a month or two in advance and to my surprise, he had a new 2020 Sub no date model waiting for me. I now have these two in my collection and have voiced my desire for a GMT 2 Batman as well. Hoping I am on a list and will wait however long is needed.

Best of luck!

I too had a pleasure of doing business with Long's Rolex Boutique on Newbury St with Michael Santosousso, who was a wonderful person to do business with. Michaels is a knowledgeable gentleman and the facility is beautifully. I was able to purchased my first Rolex from Michael and It happened to be the Batman. I have been asking him a second piece and hopefully I will get a call from Michael on or before my birthday in May. If you are in the area I am totally recommended that you visit the store to see it for yourself.

@Batman_GMTV2 - Best of luck with your hunt for a Batman.

[GeoffEff]

Originally Posted by dvn

I too had a pleasure of doing business with Long's Rolex Boutique on Newbury St with Michael Santosousso, who was a wonderful person to do business with. Michaels is a knowledgeable gentleman and the facility is beautifully. I was able to purchased my first Rolex from Michael and It happened to be the Batman. I have been asking him a second piece and hopefully I will get a call from Michael on or before my birthday in May. If you are in the area I am totally recommended that you visit the store to see it for yourself.

@Batman_GMTV2 - Best of luck with your hunt for a Batman.

Fellow May birthday here as well and happy to see someone else also taken care of by Long's! Congrats on the BLNR and wear it in good health!

[Tim Plains]

It should be called a joke, instead of journey, because that's what it is.

There is a 1% chance of you acquiring a new BLNR from a dealer without spending an exorbitant amount of money on other brands, probably over £25,000, and the wait list at most dealers is fictitious with no spending history, or no portfolio as they like to call it. That is why many just swallow their pride and buy one at the market rate. The dealer route only makes sense if you're going to buy all of the other things anyways and want a few hot Rolex models.

I posted my Rolex joke in the Rolex section of the forum if you want to read it and I chose the dealer route because I will buy a few more watches, and make those purchases work towards more Rolex. I just want to pace myself, not overdo it, and not get bored with Rolex in a short period.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

It should be called a joke, instead of journey, because that's what it is.

There is a 1% chance of you acquiring a new BLNR from a dealer without spending an exorbitant amount of money on other brands, probably over £25,000, and the wait list at most dealers is fictitious with no spending history, or no portfolio as they like to call it. That is why many just swallow their pride and buy one at the market rate. The dealer route only makes sense if you're going to buy all of the other things anyways and want a few hot Rolex models.

I posted my Rolex joke in the Rolex section of the forum if you want to read it and I chose the dealer route because I will buy a few more watches, and make those purchases work towards more Rolex. I just want to pace myself, not overdo it, and not get bored with Rolex in a short period.

Well that was a very welcoming and positive post for someone starting out in the Rolex hobby.

OP, first, welcome to the Rolex Universe, and I wish you the best of luck in acquiring your Batman. It is very true, the road will be long and a difficult one, and finding one (right now anyway) at MSRP is a definitely a long shot, but things like this do happen. Keep checking with ADs around you, see if there are other options in the road to obtaining one, and most of all enjoy the chase.

Welcome

[OG1982]

Originally Posted by Tim Plains

It should be called a joke, instead of journey, because that's what it is.

There is a 1% chance of you acquiring a new BLNR from a dealer without spending an exorbitant amount of money on other brands, probably over £25,000, and the wait list at most dealers is fictitious with no spending history, or no portfolio as they like to call it. That is why many just swallow their pride and buy one at the market rate. The dealer route only makes sense if you're going to buy all of the other things anyways and want a few hot Rolex models.

I posted my Rolex joke in the Rolex section of the forum if you want to read it and I chose the dealer route because I will buy a few more watches, and make those purchases work towards more Rolex. I just want to pace myself, not overdo it, and not get bored with Rolex in a short period.

Thats the spirit, Timothy.

[Bomber A]

Wishing you all the best and best of luck.

[mfserge]

The Rolex corporation says that the start of everyone’s Rolex Journey begins with asking TRF for inspiration…. so you’re on the right track.

[herts9]

Save your pennies and temper your patience.

[JRell]

So I have no idea how hard it any it is to get a Batman in the U.K. in the us it is not easy but not impossible. Did you talk your AD?

[Batman_GMTV2]

Originally Posted by JRell

So I have no idea how hard it any it is to get a Batman in the U.K. in the us it is not easy but not impossible. Did you talk your AD?

I have booked in a meeting with my local AD so will update you once I have been.


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[JRell]

Originally Posted by Batman_GMTV2

I have booked in a meeting with my local AD so will update you once I have been.


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Please do this is the first step!