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Old 14 May 2022, 01:01 PM   #1
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We have a MHP grill. Made in America. Hot flame cooks like a flame thrower. It is a gas grill hooked up to a gas line. We are on our second one since 2001. Highly recommended. We try to get superior things, this is one of them.
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Old 14 May 2022, 09:23 PM   #2
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We have a MHP grill. Made in America. Hot flame cooks like a flame thrower. It is a gas grill hooked up to a gas line. We are on our second one since 2001. Highly recommended. We try to get superior things, this is one of them.
I like these and the broilmasters. Simple, classic and should last forever. However they are not so appealing to the wife and they are fairly small while being more money than what I’m looking at.
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Old 14 May 2022, 09:42 PM   #3
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Just go back with the Weber - napoleon is a little step above.

I have a green egg and Weber now!
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Old 15 May 2022, 12:01 AM   #4
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Just go back with the Weber - napoleon is a little step above.

I have a green egg and Weber now!
Which do you use more out of curiosity?

Weber pricing is very high now, a genesis is over $1k and a summit $2800. The competing Napoleons are actually less I think.
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Old 17 May 2022, 07:01 AM   #5
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Which do you use more out of curiosity?

Weber pricing is very high now, a genesis is over $1k and a summit $2800. The competing Napoleons are actually less I think.
was at my local True Value today, my grill (Gen II 3 burner) is $100 more than I paid last year ($719)
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Old 17 May 2022, 07:05 AM   #6
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Which do you use more out of curiosity?

Weber pricing is very high now, a genesis is over $1k and a summit $2800. The competing Napoleons are actually less I think.
I really only use the grill when I need to quickly grill chciken for weekly meal prep (even then when I’m bored I use BGE)

I use the BGE about 2-3 times a week
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Old 17 May 2022, 10:12 AM   #7
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I really only use the grill when I need to quickly grill chciken for weekly meal prep (even then when I’m bored I use BGE)

I use the BGE about 2-3 times a week
This is sorta where I’m at. I will use the gas for quick chicken grilling during the week (just finished on old Weber lol) and the Kamado for any fun cooking I think.
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Old 15 May 2022, 12:15 AM   #8
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I went through the same process last month after a freak windstorm literally picked up my 10 year old Weber and slammed it to the ground. All of the control knobs on the front panel were broken as well as two of the gas valves. A metal bracket supporting the control panel had also broken.

I looked at Weber only as Consumer Reports still ranks them as the top choice. While I agree with you that the new color selections are a little ridiculous, the build quality is still at least as good as my 10 year old model.

The pricing has gone up dreadfully to the point that the current replacement model for mine is now $1,200.

Here is the best part of buying a Weber…..

After determining that I could get the broken support welded locally for $35, I was able to order Weber replacement valves for $60 and then new, aftermarket knobs for $30. Since I was doing all of this work, I out on new burner tubes for $70 and new spark igniters for $30. So, for $225, i essentially have a brand new grill. I did replace the cast iron grates last summer.
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Old 17 May 2022, 08:16 AM   #9
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After two decades of Weber ownership I just bought a Napoleon Prestige Pro 665.

I loved the Weber and it performed flawlessly, but every single person I spoke to knowledgeable in the subject said Napoleon was a cut above.

I have yet to set it up but looking forward to it.
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Old 17 May 2022, 10:13 AM   #10
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After two decades of Weber ownership I just bought a Napoleon Prestige Pro 665.

I loved the Weber and it performed flawlessly, but every single person I spoke to knowledgeable in the subject said Napoleon was a cut above.

I have yet to set it up but looking forward to it.
What sold you in the pro? If it wasn’t a full 1$k more then normal prestige I think I’d just do it.
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Old 18 May 2022, 06:48 AM   #11
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What sold you in the pro? If it wasn’t a full 1$k more then normal prestige I think I’d just do it.
The wife wanted the rotisserie function, and I wanted the integrated smoker. That, and the Prestige was sold out!
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Old 18 May 2022, 06:57 AM   #12
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The wife wanted the rotisserie function, and I wanted the integrated smoker. That, and the Prestige was sold out!
Lol I’m about to upgrade to the prestige with sear burner (which I do want) and rotisserie (now the 2nd considering the Kamado one lol) because the plain prestige is out!
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Old 18 May 2022, 07:18 AM   #13
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Lol I’m about to upgrade to the prestige with sear burner (which I do want) and rotisserie (now the 2nd considering the Kamado one lol) because the plain prestige is out!
Ha! I'm pretty sure the Prestige only exists on paper ;)

Enjoy it - I've got the first grill scheduled for next week. It should be epic!
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Old 18 May 2022, 07:55 AM   #14
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Look forward to tomahawk steak pics
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Old 18 May 2022, 08:41 AM   #15
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Look forward to tomahawk steak pics
We're arguing about how to christen the grill. I want Tomohawks, wife wants a whole turbot, and the kids are split between bbq ribs, kalbi bulgogi, and carabineros...

I mean the logical answer would be 'all of the above'.
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Old 18 May 2022, 10:10 AM   #16
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We're arguing about how to christen the grill. I want Tomohawks, wife wants a whole turbot, and the kids are split between bbq ribs, kalbi bulgogi, and carabineros...

I mean the logical answer would be 'all of the above'.
Reverse sear some tomahawks!
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Old 18 May 2022, 09:52 AM   #17
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FWIW and as a side note I noticed an article in todays WSJ that Weber reported a 59 million dollar loss for the first qtr, siting 'supply chain issues' as the main culprit along with slower sales due to 'more people traveling' ? !
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Old 19 May 2022, 05:27 AM   #18
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Here’s the one I found. Lots of smoking forums, few on gas grills themselves haha.

https://tvwbb.com/forums/weber-gas-grills.91/
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Old 19 May 2022, 05:29 AM   #19
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Here’s the one I found. Lots of smoking forums, few on gas grills themselves haha.

https://tvwbb.com/forums/weber-gas-grills.91/
Thanks man! Some inspiring restorations on there!
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Old 22 May 2022, 02:55 AM   #20
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I wonder how the new Weber's with their 'searing section' are working out ?

https://www.weber.com/US/en/grills/g.../35310001.html
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Old 27 May 2022, 11:57 PM   #21
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I wonder how the new Weber's with their 'searing section' are working out ?

https://www.weber.com/US/en/grills/g.../35310001.html
I don’t see it being as good as infrared 1800 degrees, just an extra burner.
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Old 28 May 2022, 12:00 AM   #22
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So like everything my budget gets blown up and I rationalize overkill. Ordered this from local shop lol:
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So like everything my budget gets blown up and I rationalize overkill. Ordered this from local shop lol:

Wow!!


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Congrats, plus you can throw it in the truck for beach BBQ or tailgating!

Will NatGas be plumbed in ???
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Old 28 May 2022, 05:22 AM   #25
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So after 16+ years of good service my Weber Summit Gold has begun performing poor enough to go new. 1 perfectly cooked chicken thigh next to a near raw one put me over the edge.

I have an upper and lower deck, and ordered a Kamado Joe Classic III (w free joetiserie) for smoking and serious cooking (also replacing a crummy master built electric smoker).

So now I need something for upstairs deck with natural gas line. Main use is quick chicken cooking on a weeknight. I went top of line on the Kamado so looking for something a little more budget friendly, but not a 3 year disposable.
- new Weber Genesis seems made overseas and is different company (private equity) vs years ago and ugly (to me)
- Napoleon rogue is what I’m eyeing, anyone have one?
- only feature that seems cool is infrared side burner for searing
- broilking is NA made and looks nice, but unsure of longevity

Anyone have any other ideas or feedback on recent models above? Trying to stay as much under $1k as possible that will last?

You can easily have a fine steak at Chilis for $6.99 , 148 times for $1000 , or sell a SS Daytona and use the $125,738.01 for a butler.

Much smarter and cheaper than maintenance and gas and accessories and cleaning of a grille.

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Congrats, plus you can throw it in the truck for beach BBQ or tailgating!

Will NatGas be plumbed in ???
Lol yes it replaces my tailgate grill completely right!

Yep NG is plumbed in. 123k btu will rip through it if I’m really cookin.

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You can easily have a fine steak at Chilis for $6.99 , 148 times for $1000 , or sell a SS Daytona and use the $125,738.01 for a butler.

Much smarter and cheaper than maintenance and gas and accessories and cleaning of a grille.

But what would my butler cook for his family on? Think of them!

I could sell my Daytona and eat dennys steaks forever (pending inflation) lol.
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Lol yes it replaces my tailgate grill completely right!

Yep NG is plumbed in. 123k btu will rip through it if I’m really cookin.



But what would my butler cook for his family on? Think of them!

I could sell my Daytona and eat dennys steaks forever (pending inflation) lol.
This is a Rolex forum Sir. We don’t do the cooking.
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Real men grill.
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Plumbed in, gooooood man.
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Thanks!

Looks like I’m going to have to make more friends. Just put together the Kamado Joe downstairs so i have plenty of capacity now haha.
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Real men grill.
Of course. So why don’t we all go nuts and start driving our own cars and flying our own planes or doing our own colonoscopies or remembering our partner’s eye color????? .

‘Real men grill’

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