32xx Issue Curtailing Your Purchases?

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

I’d like to see someplace other than this Forum discussing this.

I can’t find it. Please post if you have.

You tried google?




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[Bizcut1]

Thanks

[Kevin of Larchmont]

No hesitation at all. Have owned two with no problems and a plan is in place for another. If a problem manifests the AD will deal with it. While some issues have been clearly documented the odds are by far in my favor.

[kyleg531]

Looking for a 32 series Sub as we speak. FWIW, had a 31 series sub that stopped running after 2 months of ownership (purchased new). Second hand “caught” on the 5 second mark. Have also had Omega PO with consistent issues.

Own enough watches and you run into things. Seems like the 32 series has its share of issues, but imagine Rolex has/will address. Nothing is bullet proof at high enough production scale.


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[CHRONOLEX]

Well this is interesting. My dealer generously loaned me a new Sub to try out on rubber this weekend while I decided if I wanted to buy one NIB. This “loaner” has already lost 5 seconds from 24 hours ago.

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

Well this is interesting. My dealer generously loaned me a new Sub to try out on rubber this weekend while I decided if I wanted to buy one NIB. This “loaner” has already lost 5 seconds from 24 hours ago.

yikes.... you don't happen to have access to a timegrapher do ya? What year is the BNIB sub?

[CHRONOLEX]

Originally Posted by amanbra

yikes.... you don't happen to have access to a timegrapher do ya? What year is the BNIB sub?

I don’t know what year this one is, but he sized it and let me wear it for the weekend. I actually only wore it for an hour and put it away once I was certain I wanted one. However after I read all of this horror last night I gave it a full wind and laid it down to test performance. This -5 overnight is not good. I thought all the 32 canaries said it took 18 months to show up?! Mine is NIB at shop and I think 2022 but need to confirm tomorrow.

[subprimero]

The only current Rolex model I have any interest in is the Sky-Dweller. Rolex references with the 32xx movements are a no-go for me.

[CHRONOLEX]

I guess this means all DD40s are afflicted? Wow

[Bizcut1]

I think you should turn the new Sub down. It will only take them about five minutes to sell it to someone else so no harm done and that someone will be very happy.

Make sure to explain to them why you don’t want it.

That should go well. I’m sure they will be happy to get you another.

[CHRONOLEX]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

I think you should turn the new Sub down. It will only take them about five minutes to sell it to someone else so no harm done and that someone will be very happy.

Make sure to explain to them why you don’t want it.

That should go well. I’m sure they will be happy to get you another.

You think I should turn down the new one and find a 3135 Sub? Really want to have one to wear on rubber.

[Doood]

I would really like an SD43. Or even a TT SD43. Or maybe both….can’t make up my mind. But even if this issue affects only a small percentage, I am just not ready to roll the dice. Sigh….

Always loved the polar exp 2. Went out of my way to pick up a 216570 in 2020 before the new movement was introduced. I have the best AD, by the way, who made this happen, and I was very open with him about my strategy (or paranoia).

I just don’t want to spend energy going through the warranty process. Could I have issues with one of my 31xx series movements? Of course, but really want to manage my risk.

I also believe most 32xx owners wouldn’t notice a slowing movement, so my guess is the problem is more widespread than being reported. I am very disappointed by the way Rolex has been managing this issue.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

Question: is this 32xx issue preventing or causing anyone to hold off from buying new watches right now?

Yes.

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

If so, how do we know when problem has been resolved and it’s safe to buy again?

No chance.

Originally Posted by Doood

I also believe most 32xx owners wouldn’t notice a slowing movement, so my guess is the problem is more widespread than being reported.

Yes, very likely, but impossible to verify.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Driver8

I’ve only owned one 3235 powered piece (an SD43), and when it suffered the slowing issue, I got it “fixed” by RSC, and then I immediately sold it.

Hi, the 126600 Sea-Dweller is a beautiful tech watch, I still have and often wear my 50th anniversary model, also for diving. I understand that you sold yours after repair

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

You think I should turn down the new one and find a 3135 Sub? Really want to have one to wear on rubber.

This is what I would do if I were in the market for sub. I'd even considering going five digit as I prefer the case shape on them vs the fat lugs.

[joli160]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

You think I should turn down the new one and find a 3135 Sub? Really want to have one to wear on rubber.

You should buy the one you like regardless of the movement.
It’s only a watch and if it start loosing some time what does it matter.
About once a week I set mine ahead a good 5 minutes and half way the week I am spot on.

Personally I opt for the previous version 116610. I prefer the blockier case which many seem to dislike and the more reliable engine is a nice plus.

[PekWatchGuy]

Cancelled my order of Sea-Dweller immediately when realized this 32xx issue. Lost interest of Rolex.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by joli160

About once a week I set mine ahead a good 5 minutes and half way the week I am spot on.

About -5 min in 3.5 days?
-86 sec/day

[travisb]

Five purchases with the new movement - zero issues.

[alphadweller]

It doesn't affect my purchase decision.

I own a couple of models with the 3235 caliber, from 2017 and 2020. The former appears to be suffering from the disease but Im not sure yet. The latter is holding up fine so far.

When I bought the 2020 piece, I was aware of the problem. I trust Rolex will eventually come up with a long lasting fix.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Doood

I just don’t want to spend energy going through the warranty process.

That would be a pain but at least it offers protection. My worry is what happens if the watch starts to fail at six years old? That's not a warranty fix. When it comes back from the RSC with a two year warranty, what happens if it develops more issues two and a half years later? I don't want a watch that needs servicing every 2-3 years. Then again, it could run for 20 years. We just don't know, but the 32 based movement appears to be gaining a poor reputation.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

Question: is this 32xx issue preventing or causing anyone to hold off from buying new watches right now?

Definitely yes, I won't be touching a 32xx Rolex anytime soon. I know that there are 5 years of warranty but IMHO warranty should protect the buyer from the unexpected and the unpredictable and this is clearly not the case with the 32xx series.

Just like the date problems with the Tudor GMT, the quality control with the middle range Seikos, the G-Shocks running second hand and so on.

[1William]

No issues for me and I own several 32xx references. If it has an issue then back it will go for service.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by joli160

You should buy the one you like regardless of the movement.
It’s only a watch and if it start loosing some time what does it matter.
About once a week I set mine ahead a good 5 minutes and half way the week I am spot on.

Personally I opt for the previous version 116610. I prefer the blockier case which many seem to dislike and the more reliable engine is a nice plus.

Real world user common sense.

I’ve never missed an appointment, a flight, a train and the list goes on. That’s using 32xx movements from Rolex with the oldest reference being a 2017

[CarlOver]

I can see an issue with generalizing issues with the 32 series movements. There are likely running changes to sort out issues. Just like cars with parts revisions. Problem is if it takes 1.5 years to show up as someone mentioned, then many of us won't know for a while with more recent purchases.

[Booth9999]

Mine has been excellent only loosing 22 seconds over the last two+ months. SD43

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

You think I should turn down the new one and find a 3135 Sub? Really want to have one to wear on rubber.

Dude, sorry. I was being sarcastic.

Go get your sub.

Don’t tell them a small group of posters on an Internet watch forum dissuaded you.

Enjoy your watch!

Ben

[padi56]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Real world user common sense.

I’ve never missed an appointment, a flight, a train and the list goes on. That’s using 32xx movements from Rolex with the oldest reference being a 2017

Afraid common sense is sadly lacking today Brian, wonder how many 32 series movements today are in the world today.The majority of them loved by there owners ,mainly because without the aid of timegraphers and the rest of today's Rolex toys.

[Bizcut1]

Originally Posted by padi56

Afraid common sense is sadly lacking today Brian, wonder how many 32 series movements today are in the world today.The majority of them loved by there owners ,mainly because without the aid of timegraphers and the rest of today's Rolex toys.

Probably millions.

Common sense? It's certainly lacking here.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Bizcut1

I’d like to see someplace other than this Forum discussing this.

I can’t find it. Please post if you have.

I don't think he's posted for a while but SearChart (who works in a Rolex RSC) has confirmed that there is a known problem - particularly with early production having insufficient lubrication on the seconds wheel pivot.

What is concerning is that more recent movements and those early ones that have been "fixed" under warranty or at service have also exhibited the same issue.

This is not just a "forum issue" unfortunately