California population declines for second year in a row

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by daveathall

I went to San Francisco for a couple of days, I loved it and wished I could have spent longer there.

Was disappointed that no one was wearing any flowers in their hair.

I helped a friend move out to San Francisco in 1996.
I remember when i stopped in at a very small pizzeria downtown. I order a couple of slices sat down and started to eat. Right then, the cook came out of the kitchen with a prostitute. I could barely finish the pizza after that.

Then some of my stuff got stolen out of my friends apartment. And an acquaintance was assaulted on the sidewalk when we went bar hopping.`

Yes, fond memories.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by MILGAUSS88

I helped a friend move out to San Francisco in 1996.
I remember when i stopped in at a very small pizzeria downtown. I order a couple of slices sat down and started to eat. Right then, the cook came out of the kitchen with a prostitute. I could barely finish the pizza after that.

Then some of my stuff got stolen out of my friends apartment. And an acquaintance was assaulted on the sidewalk when we went bar hopping.`

Yes, fond memories.

I am jealous, surely it is worse now, do you remember the name of the pizza joint, asking for a friend.

[Bluside]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

It's really great here in FL. Fishing, aviation, equestrian, golfing... plus you too can play a legendary role as #FloridaMan


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I live in Florida and find this hysterical. Go Tom.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

I could sell my 685 square foot condo near the beach, and literally buy a three or four bedroom home with an acre of land in Texas or Florida; easily.

Or you could get a farmhouse and some land outside of Mayberry. We don't have a Tumi store, and the nearest AD is a decent drive, but we do have BBQ, a John Deere dealership and Tractor Supply.

You might even have room for your own runway. A hayfield might not support the fighter jets you cut your teeth on, but you should be fine setting down a small Cessna.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

Or you could get a farmhouse and some land outside of Mayberry. We don't have a Tumi store, and the nearest AD is a decent drive, but we do have BBQ, a John Deere dealership and Tractor Supply.

You might even have room for your own runway. A hayfield might not support the fighter jets you cut your teeth on, but you should be fine setting down a small Cessna.

Sounds like where I’m from

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by bobernet

Sounds like he’s about to get an upgrade.

Oh yeah, and an abundance to choose from too

Originally Posted by JParm

Humidity and obnoxious heat, bugs (love bugs!), cages over pools to keep out those bugs and critters, hurricanes, alligators, no change in elevation whatsoever...we West Coasters are good.

Yes, in that case please stay in Cali. They desperately need your revenue.

Our Florida Power & Light (FPL) eclectic bill for our home with pool, networks, two AC units.... $175 during the hottest month of the year. Gallon of gas is about $3.25... $3.99 for premium. No Florida State income tax either, but yes please stay in Cali as they truly do need people there.

Btw i loved living in Napa decades ago, before they built it all up for major tourism. Napa was EPIC in the 1970s.

Originally Posted by Bluside

I live in Florida and find this hysterical. Go Tom.

[Stan Cooper]

I'm with Jesse on this; I'm a native Floridian (Duval County/Jacksonville) who got stationed at Vandenberg AFB on the central California coast in 1962, and fell in love with the state. I lived in SoCal for years after my separation from the Air Force working in the aerospace industry, and moved to San Francisco in 1972, so I've lived in the bay area for fifty years.

I visit family in Florida every couple of years, but always love returning home in the wine country after those visits.

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Though not from there, I have big love for California. I love visiting that state. That said I previously lived in a city that became overrun with Californians. Worst thing that could’ve happened to the locals who can no longer afford to live in their birthplace. CA losing population isn’t just bad for CA, but Austin, Nashville, Boise, etc…..

Originally Posted by bobernet

Cost of living is only a part of it. Many of them bring their failed policies and politics with them, ruining the “better place” they chose to move.

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

[THC]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

So true

[JRedford]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

This.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Btw i loved living in Napa decades ago, before they built it all up for major tourism. Napa was EPIC in the 1970s.

I hear you Steven. Florida has a lot going for it. But it has changed as well. And to be honest, from my perspective there would not really be a big difference between living in Florida or California.

Lived on both of Forida's coasts before the massive development. I have been back to visit. Beaches are still beautiful, but it is not the same by any stretch of the imagination. And, having lived in the country for several decades, there is no way I could ever live in a developed and massively populated area again.

Will always miss the beaches, the stone crabs, and being able to eat at cultural diverse places without making day trip of if. But enjoy the privacy and slower pace of life more.

Looking out the windows of our farmhouse this morning (North, South, East and West) all I see is the fall colors (later than usual) and wildlife. Getting ready to hike with my dog and then check on our donkeys. I will hear the church bells later this morning from the church down the way. But I will not probably not see a single person today unless the amazon delivery person stops to chat or my in-laws come over to check their corn crop.

Obviously, this lifestyle is not for everyone.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

I hear you Steven. Florida has a lot going for it. But it has changed as well. And to be honest, from my perspective there would not really be a big difference between living in Florida or California.

Lived on both of Forida's coasts before the massive development. I have been back to visit. Beaches are still beautiful, but it is not the same by any stretch of the imagination. And, having lived in the country for several decades, there is no way I could ever live in a developed and massively populated area again.

Will always miss the beaches, the stone crabs, and being able to eat at cultural diverse places without making day trip of if. But enjoy the privacy and slower pace of life more.

Looking out the windows of our farmhouse this morning (North, South, East and West) all I see is the fall colors (later than usual) and wildlife. Getting ready to hike with my dog and then check on our donkeys. I will hear the church bells later this morning from the church down the way. But I will not probably not see a single person today unless the amazon delivery person stops to chat or my in-laws come over to check their corn crop.

Obviously, this lifestyle is not for everyone.

The colors are beautiful here to my friend

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[EEpro]

Originally Posted by Thug

CA is a failing/failed state? LOL

No it just aspires to be.

[pickettt]

It’s home.

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by brandrea

The colors are beautiful here to my friend

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Simply awesome. Have a great day brother!

[JParm]

Originally Posted by brandrea

The colors are beautiful here to my friend

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Brian's always tempting us with his beautiful backyard!

We do love us some Canada...it just gets a bit too cold for our weak beach bones.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by mountainjogger

I hear you Steven. Florida has a lot going for it. But it has changed as well. And to be honest, from my perspective there would not really be a big difference between living in Florida or California.

Lived on both of Forida's coasts before the massive development. I have been back to visit. Beaches are still beautiful, but it is not the same by any stretch of the imagination. And, having lived in the country for several decades, there is no way I could ever live in a developed and massively populated area again.

Will always miss the beaches, the stone crabs, and being able to eat at cultural diverse places without making day trip of if. But enjoy the privacy and slower pace of life more.

Looking out the windows of our farmhouse this morning (North, South, East and West) all I see is the fall colors (later than usual) and wildlife. Getting ready to hike with my dog and then check on our donkeys. I will hear the church bells later this morning from the church down the way. But I will not probably not see a single person today unless the amazon delivery person stops to chat or my in-laws come over to check their corn crop.

Obviously, this lifestyle is not for everyone.

Where in NC are you? Sounds wonderful. We like the north mountain area best with Blowing Rock as a focal point.

[JParm]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Our Florida Power & Light (FPL) eclectic bill for our home with pool, networks, two AC units.... $175 during the hottest month of the year. Gallon of gas is about $3.25... $3.99 for premium. No Florida State income tax either, but yes please stay in Cali as they truly do need people there.

Btw i loved living in Napa decades ago, before they built it all up for major tourism. Napa was EPIC in the 1970s.

Yes, CA is definitely not the cheapest place to live but like Blansky said, the most desirable places to live generally cost more.

My wife is a Gator and grew up in West Palm, and I will say that places like Marco Island, Siesta Key, Delray Beach and Fort Lauderdale have our hearts...it's just not a place we'd choose to be 365 days out of the year. Plus, the cost of housing in the places mentioned has greatly increased since COVID, so much so that the cost benefit of living there over CA (speaking strictly real estate cost) has dwindled.

We've talked about doing 9-10 months in CA/2-3 months in FL in the future and do still own 2 rental properties there, so it is a part of us. But I always laugh about it - who actually snowbirds OUT of California?! This is a 365/yr type of place.

[Kinnakeet]

I love living in Florida, love spending time at Lido Key and South Daytona. I love Maine as well. Just got back from coastal Maine last night. I’ll be spending time at my place in Tobermory Ontario soon.

But I love Florida. Such a nice state, nice people. Love the heat. It’s now my home base. So much to do and see. Happy to be a resident.

No desire to live in California.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

I am jealous, surely it is worse now, do you remember the name of the pizza joint, asking for a friend.

I certainly saw some homeless, but nothing like i see in the photos now.

No, unfortunately I do not remember the name of the pizza joint.
Another prostitute came into the pizzeria as the first one came out of the kitchen. Apparently they were friends and shared some gardening tips.
Something about a hoe......

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by JParm

Brian's always tempting us with his beautiful backyard!



We do love us some Canada...it just gets a bit too cold for our weak beach bones.

Thank you my friend

I hear you. Its 11c right now. Luckily I like the cooler fall weather. Its the winter that really gets old

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[Blansky]

When I moved from Canada in the middle 1980s to LA and lived at the beach I loved it and thought this was heaven. Riding my bike on the beach on Christmas Day at 78 degrees, and the summers with no bugs was great.

But talking to the "natives" was always, "yeah it's ok, but you should have seen it in the 60s" ......"man it was great then" ......Gidget time I guess.

And others were like "the 70 man, that was the best...free love"....what ever that means....is love ever free???

So now I've lived at the beach, Silicon Valley, Wine country, and now suburbia above Malibu. Great life in all the locations......

This is a fun article on "yeah but it was way better before" ......only this is about NYC.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...e-i-moved-here

[JoeJoeBobo]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

They think they have all of society’s answers…only most of them are wrong.

[Blansky]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBobo

They think they have all of society’s answers…only most of them are wrong.

I bet you're a blast at parties.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by airchitect

Though not from there, I have big love for California. I love visiting that state. That said I previously lived in a city that became overrun with Californians. Worst thing that could’ve happened to the locals who can no longer afford to live in their birthplace. CA losing population isn’t just bad for CA, but Austin, Nashville, Boise, etc…..


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Originally Posted by DLRIDES

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

Originally Posted by THC

So true

Originally Posted by JRedford

This.

I can think of many PEOPLES who might think the same of people “from” those places.

[enjoythemusic]

Ok, yes, in some enclaves and situations CA is lovely. 100% agreed. The big money seems to be moving to FL including some big Wall Street companies (NY and NJ lost their luster).

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

They’re like a swarm of locusts, destroying everything in its path.

Only if they don't realize their previous voting and life mistakes that had them leave ______. Sadly, many still think Karen is still a viable option.

So please move to Texas, they are warm and friendly people.

[austinp]

I grew up in San Diego but don’t live there anymore. It has my favorite weather in the country and I love going back there. We still have a house there and may return some day. We chose to raise our family in Florida and I don’t regret decision. Both places are pretty great. California is a really big state. SoCal is awesome. I don’t really care for the rest of it except Tahoe. Love it there.


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[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

Where in NC are you? Sounds wonderful. We like the north mountain area best with Blowing Rock as a focal point.

Blowing Rock is great. I am in foothills, between Pilot Mountain and Mount Airy (Mayberry RFD).

[mountainjogger]

Originally Posted by pickettt

I can think of many PEOPLES who might think the same of people “from” those places.

Quite. I always thought Piaget was overly optimistic when he said most people begin to be able to understand the perspective of others at age 7.

[JoeJoeBobo]

Originally Posted by Blansky

I bet you're a blast at parties.

Absolutely, tell where and when.