ADs becoming desperate?

[GusFring]

Originally Posted by April26

So not had anything from my ad this year. Popped in a couple times guy I usually deal with not there but just pop in to see if anything is about.
Anyway this morning get a unusual text from SA

Hi ****
Hope you are well? Just messaging to see if there is anything I can help you with going into the Christmas period and if you are wanting anything before the new year? Pahaps a watch? Let me know if there is anything I can help you with?

Look of course I rang the store straight up to see if I could speak to him he was busy and rang me back basically offering me anything except as Daytona I asked for as skydweller in blue he said they were very difficult but could have either of the other colours by Christmas.

Whether he pulls this off I don’t know Like I said not had anything this year and not a big spender. Do you think the ads are becoming a bit desperate now maybe watches becoming more avalible? He knows what’s coming in hoping I get the call very soon

I’m interested to know which AD this is as I’m in the UK.

[Daryl]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

So an AD knows you've been waiting a while and appreciates you stopping in from time to time. They want to make your holiday extra special. And you post saying the AD is desperate???

Color me puzzled that you're not being thankful. If you want I'd happily take your place, can you get me a 36mm Tiffany please as my wife has been waiting for one. It'd make a great holiday gift for her. Thank you, you're the best!

[David5807]

Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

“It’s happening”

[johnorpheus]

Bizarre response to that email OP…

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by April26

So not had anything from my ad this year. Popped in a couple times guy I usually deal with not there but just pop in to see if anything is about.
Anyway this morning get a unusual text from SA

Hi ****
Hope you are well? Just messaging to see if there is anything I can help you with going into the Christmas period and if you are wanting anything before the new year? Pahaps a watch? Let me know if there is anything I can help you with?

Look of course I rang the store straight up to see if I could speak to him he was busy and rang me back basically offering me anything except as Daytona I asked for as skydweller in blue he said they were very difficult but could have either of the other colours by Christmas.

Whether he pulls this off I don’t know Like I said not had anything this year and not a big spender. Do you think the ads are becoming a bit desperate now maybe watches becoming more avalible? He knows what’s coming in hoping I get the call very soon

Maybe it was because you bought him a Christmas gift or card last year?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=832455

[TheVision]

Depends on the city. I'm in California and its STILL a nightmare. I was on the sub waitlist since June (AD had qouted one year at the VERY min). Was there in September and he said they've only received like 10 sub date all year around and I have ZERO purchase history. He was honest enough to admit the allocation goes to VIP clients but didnt push me to buy Tudor/jeweley which they also sell. My 2nd option was DJ smooth bezel (blue motif dial or green dial).

He changed my preference to the DJ some weeks ago but also said they've received literally 3 motifs all year around so not sure. But he said he'll try his best to hook me up by x-mas. So fingers crossed.

And I was there 2 weeks ago and literally witnessed over 10 people walking in and asking to be put on waitlist for sub, daytona and gmt. I overheard some being turned away with a nice "sorry..we don't have any waitlist for this year".

It's pretty facked still.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Trailboss516

Wish I got an email like that

Exactly. Around here you’re doing well to get your call returned

[TBC123]

I can see post Christmas period a ramp down of the market and more availability at AD’s and most certainly further deterioration of grey market prices.

[Number3]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Maybe it was because you bought him a Christmas gift or card last year?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=832455

Good memory Adam!

[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by Guppydriver

It's nice to see the casual flipper's margin has shrunk on a number of models so as to not to be bothered.

Those guys/gals in the past who were on the list for and bought ANYTHING are deciding it's not worth the effort (with obvious exceptions). Hopefully this creates opportunity for those wanting DJ's, Explorers, AK's, YM's, Black Subs, etc...

Although I don't see display cases full anytime soon, just being able to express interest in a piece you fancy knowing that there is a high chance of having it on your wrist in less than six months or so would be wonderful.

I was offered a YG DD40 with diamond ring, DD36 with diamond dial and leather strap, YM II steel and YM II steel/gold when I popped into my AD last week.

The craziness definitely seems to be slowing down.


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[rambo99]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

I was offered a YG DD40 with diamond ring, DD36 with diamond dial and leather strap, YM II steel and YM II steel/gold when I popped into my AD last week.

The craziness definitely seems to be slowing down.


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slowing down? not until one can walk in an AD and gets a Pepsi or ss daytona.

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Number3

Good memory Adam!

Not really, I just glanced at the OPs prior threads. They seem to be mostly about AD interactions.

[ronricks]

I’ve gotten calls this month from two different AD’s offering me watches that are not on my ‘list’ with either of them:

AD1
TT Sub
Sub No Date
OP 41 Green

AD2
DJ41 green fluted motif dial (I went to see in person and just didn’t like it)
TT white dial Daytona

I passed on these because they aren’t what I want. One of the AD’s who I have a better relationship with told me they are having more and more people pass on watches.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

Watch Salesman tries to sell watches= desperate

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[Al1969]

Originally Posted by Seddyspaghetti

“It’s happening”

[casadecamporolex]

In the USA, the luxury watch market has cooled slightly as the flipping frenzy has subsided.
However, there still are huge pockets of wealth in the upper class that will make purchasing specific Rolex, LV, Mercedes and Birkin products impossible to find.
I’ve been waiting for a PM DD for one year and it’s not happening.
It will never be like 2008.

[Mystro]

My AD has no watches and says business is strong with waiting times for a SS Daytona at least a “decade”. The manager laughed when he looked at my SS Daytona and said that is a “decade wait” watch. I am in a relatively rural area of the state with the average citizen lusting for a new pickup and not a luxury watch so that should speak volumes what a affluent area might be like.

[Rolexatlast]

Originally Posted by casadecamporolex

In the USA, the luxury watch market has cooled slightly as the flipping frenzy has subsided.
However, there still are huge pockets of wealth in the upper class that will make purchasing specific Rolex, LV, Mercedes and Birkin products impossible to find.
I’ve been waiting for a PM DD for one year and it’s not happening.
It will never be like 2008.

Wishful thinking…

[JJGreen]

Far from desperate. I don't want to bet against you, and I hope you do get something you want, but that would be the exception to the norm.

[Nico81]

Originally Posted by minute_man

Still far from desperate and they're unlikely to ever be, as the stock dumping channels (greys) remain open, with the relationship now being better than ever.

But watches are certainly becoming easier to get in general as flipping potential diminishes. As a result, many of those on the list will pass on a piece when called.

While it's still true that people wait for years, there are increasingly more accounts of people getting the call sooner than expected or sooner than they were told.

Very true

Flippers are less involved as there is less money to be made
But pipeline is still open and relationships strong
Having said that i do expect daydates to sell below msrp in near future or be bundled with stainless professional watches


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[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by casadecamporolex

It will never be like 2008.

From a pure perspective of sales volume I agree.

Looking at the big picture, the audience of participants / enthusiasts / crazies for horology (and vinyl LPs / record players) has grown quite a bit. Call it a rebirth or new retro-cool or whatever, yet the facts are there is more demand for them today than in 2008 from far more consumers.

Imho eventually all the increased production will be closer to true demand. We're just not there yet. And yeah, the vinyl LP pressing plant growth has been historic!

[Etschell]

the only people who think ADs care who they sell to are fools. they sell to whoever will buy watches and jewelry. it is basic. they used people to inflate their sales and many played into it. keep getting played.

[Cigars&Watches]

I think the SA was hinting for you to buy some other merch: ie: jewellery, other watches with a possible Rolex as a bundle for the Christmas season: is this a boutique dealer or multi-brand AD? Doesn't the SA already have knowledge of the pieces you are looking for so why call you asking if he can get anything for you, just look up what you want and offer it to you. Doesn't make any sense..

Put it this way - if you were an SA would you sell a SkyD to someone you have never made any commission from in the past and no prospect of making commission from in the future or sell the Sky to someone who has a track record of making you some money in the past and will likely do so in the future...

My AD also indicates things are slowing but demand still outweighs supply by a large margin.

In any case best of luck and hope you get what you are looking for.