help w great "problem"

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Joearch

OP, honestly, are you kidding. I have a unworn VTNR on Oyster. Happy to exchange bracelets w you.

What a great offer. I hope this works for both of you.

[saltyandwet]

Originally Posted by milgaussSD43

Been on AD list (NYC area) for a VTNR for some time but no joy. Stepfather heard I was looking for this and went to his local AD (USA South). He is a very good jewelry customer and they allocated him a VTNR in a few weeks. He's not a watch guy, and while I tried to explain I want an oyster (jubilee isn't for me), he didn't really grasp that, and his AD allocated a jubilee VTNR. He bought it 2 days ago and it's at his house right now. He plans to gift it to me soon.

Amazing! So generous. Except it's not the watch I want. There's no way I could ever say to him "hey, this amazing a very hard to get watch isn't really what I want, can we change it?" Just can't do that.

I know his salesperson at his AD and called her today, explaining the situation. She knows it was bought for me, and she said she was very sorry for the bad luck. But she said they don't take Rolex returns, and "since it's now considered new, we could only buy back for less than he paid." We all know that's ridiculous since a NIB AD VTNR is worth only $12k whereas a "used" VTNR is worth ~$18k+. No point in ruminating over that, it is what it is.

I only buy at ADs and do NOT flip. Of course we all know the value of this watch and chat I can flip in an instant for a profit. But I'm not ok w doing that. I called my AD and explained and asked if they might take the jubilee VTNR and allocate me an oyster VTNR. No luck there as they are Bucherer and per the CPO program can't buy watches < 3 years old.

Anyone w any ideas? I want a NIB unworn oyster VTNR and am willing to do a swap 1:1. I'm thinking of reaching out to a known trusted grey to do that. I want a swap and if offered $$ would not take it. And if I go this route, I would call stepfather's AD and propose what I'm planning and make sure they are ok with it. I don't want him to lose his privileges to get allocations and I don't want to participate in the flip culture.

Final note, he won't notice if I swapped the bracelet, so I won't need to tell him any of this.

Don't be ungrateful. Just accept it, enjoy it and move on. It's like that teenage girl receiving a car on her 16th b'day but moaning that it's not the color she wanted. It's a GIFT!!! Really? You are going to cry that it's the watch you want but just not the bracelet that you desire? If I was your stepfather, I'd say "fine, go get it on your own then, ingrate".

[rockysw]

Originally Posted by saltyandwet

Don't be ungrateful. Just accept it, enjoy it and move on. It's like that teenage girl receiving a car on her 16th b'day but moaning that it's not the color she wanted. It's a GIFT!!! Really? You are going to cry that it's the watch you want but just not the bracelet that you desire? If I was your stepfather, I'd say "fine, go get it on your own then, ingrate".

spot on

[Hodog16]

The jubilee bracelet has grown on me. I previously told AD's not to call me with one but now I wouldn't mind it.

I'd want to keep the exact serial my family gifted me--bracelets are relatively easy to source. Enjoy the watch now and look for an oyster bracelet that fits in the meantime.

[4 Aussies]

help w great "problem" You have no idea what a problem is. Your Stepfather is a class act, your childish behavior deserves zero!

[milgaussSD43]

Thanks for all the feedback. I actually didn't know it was as easy as buying a new bracelet, which I can arrange and install. For some reason I incorrectly thought the actual case of the GMTII/VTNR jubilee and the GMTII/VTNR were different, e.g. the jubilee "architecture" and oyster "architecture" were part of the case. So that if you put an oyster bracelet onto a VTNR jubilee case, you'd see ~1 jubilee link or so and then the oyster. Make sense? Not sure how I got that wrong.

But if the cases are identical then I can enjoy the jubilee for a time and replace the bracelet at will with what I want.

I actually don't care for the PCLs, anyone know if a Sub 97200 bracelet will properly fit GMTII/VTNR?

[RTG]

With Jubilee being the more popular option, you’ll have no problem finding someone to swap bracelets with if you don’t come to love the jubilee. I would bite your tongue and never suggest anything but total appreciation for the magnificent gift. If I gave my kid a Rolex for him to bitch about the bracelet, I swear I would feed it to him.

[gates]

There are several great ideas here, accept the gift as is, KEEP THE JUBILEE as its a gift, and buy an oyster for the $2500 or so the charge - win win - you get the watch you want for the cost of an oyster bracelet and you honor your stepfathers gift as given, leave the jubilee in the box for daily and slap it on when you get together with your stepfather/dressier occasions - win- win. Honestly, a lot of people would love to have the option of the other bracelet when they wanted to dress up or down the watch but adding another bracelet to an already big expenditure is not something most people will do, youre not paying for the watch so....

[brandrea]

Chewey is that you?

[Cru Jones]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Chewey is that you?

If OP’s post had been the following, I would have agreed with you:

“Dear fellow Rolex (rich) enthusiasts. I have a problem. My father in-law gifted me six solid gold Rolexes. This upset me!! Everyone knows there are seven days in the week. Wearing the same watch twice in a week is for commoners. I’m now wondering if his daughter is in my league (probably not). What should I do?”

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

If OP’s post had been the following, I would have agreed with you:

“Dear fellow Rolex (rich) enthusiasts. I have a problem. My father in-law gifted me six solid gold Rolexes. This upset me!! Everyone knows there are seven days in the week. Wearing the same watch twice in a week is for commoners. I’m now wondering if his daughter is in my league (probably not). What should I do?”

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[RX0]

You can go to RSC and ask them to get you an oyster bracelet as replacement.

[bluestreak]

I’m just going to go against the tide a bit, if I was the gift giver, I wouldn’t care if they switched out the bracelet. At all.

Personally, I don’t like the Jubilee. I know everyone here does, but I just don’t like it in my wrist. I don’t like how it looks and how it feels. I’d appreciate the gift immensely, but if this were me, I’d wear it a lot less. And I’m sure whoever bought it for me would want me to wear it a lot.

I just don’t think of changing the bracelet as a big deal. Non watch people would literally think nothing of it. Hell, I’d argue most people on TRF would think nothing of getting a watch as a gift and throwing it on a NATO or a leather strap.

So if OP knows he won’t wear the watch as much on a Jubilee, it makes zero sense to keep it on one. He knows himself and he knows his father-in-law much better than us.

[Andad]

Interesting situation.

Easy answer.

You know what to do.

Enjoy wearing it and be grateful.

[996marty]

Some people are clearly hard to please and don’t deserve such generosity.I can only imagine how good it must feel for someone to gift you a great watch even if it isn’t quite what you wanted. As most have mentioned why can’t you just switch out the bracelet?

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by 996marty

Some people are clearly hard to please and don’t deserve such generosity.I can only imagine how good it must feel for someone to gift you a great watch even if it isn’t quite what you wanted. As most have mentioned why can’t you just switch out the bracelet?

That’s what he is trying to do…

[gates]

yep! thats what id do too.

[JDsnewwatch]

nice gift, my stepmother just cleaned out my father's accounts after he died and cried about poverty (hard to believe with 7 homes and substantial investments). It sounds like you hit the jackpot for the watch and a step-parent who actually cares about you.

[GGGMT]

Seriously? Buy bracelet oyster


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[Akacoke]

Is he serious?

[msum]

So generous of your step-father!

Congratulations on the new acquisition!

If you’ve seen a recent post of mine, I’m looking for a Jubilee bracelet. I’ll buy it from you, leaving you without a bracelet - 126710s make good pocket watches, right?

[Dr.Stu]

Boy, it's a good thing he didn't mistakenly buy you a DayDate, then you'd really be screwed.

But seriously, I'm with the hive: I'd never sell or trade out the watch head, but the bracelet is another story. It's easy to say "just buy an Oyster" and have both, but it is a $2000- $3000 cost, so reach out to one of the Trusted Sellers on the site and they might be able to help you out with a swap. I think the Jubilee is generally considered a more desirable bracelet, so I don't think you'll have any trouble. In fact, I'd be surprised if you didn't already have a PM or two.

BTW, I think the watch on Jubilee is sharp looking, but on Oyster is just meh.

[jb335]

Your FIL went out of his way to do a very kind and generous gesture for you, wear the watch and every time you see it on your wrist it will remind you have a wonderful family that cares for you.

Oyster v. Jubilee is not a big deal. Wear the jubilee. It’s actually the better bracelet for a modern GMT anyway.

The only other reasonable thing to do is buy an oyster bracelet and switch back and forth.


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[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by jb335

Your FIL went out of his way to do a very kind and generous gesture for you, wear the watch and every time you see it on your wrist it will remind you have a wonderful family that cares for you.

Oyster v. Jubilee is not a big deal. Wear the jubilee. It’s actually the better bracelet for a modern GMT anyway.

The only other reasonable thing to do is buy an oyster bracelet and switch back and forth.


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The watch is on his wrist regardless of what bracelet it’s on. He should put it in whatever bracelet he’ll wear it more on.


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[Harry-57]

If you don't want it I'll have it and I'll be grateful for it.

Thanks.

[vesnyder]

I have an order into my AD for an Oyster bracelet for my GMT. It should be as simple as that! It has been a month! Crazy that you have to wait.

[travisb]

I'd just look for an Oyster bracelet. You never know, you might want to switch up down the road.

[Neil McCauley]

Originally Posted by vesnyder

I have an order into my AD for an Oyster bracelet for my GMT. It should be as simple as that! It has been a month! Crazy that you have to wait.

9 months and waiting for my Jubilee bracelet order... no sign as yet.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Neil McCauley

9 months and waiting for my Jubilee bracelet order... no sign as yet.

Mine was ordered in May 2022, scheduled to arrive in September 2022 and finally fitted at the Mayfair RSC in January 2023. My understanding is that stock is very tight.

[1William]

Take the watch as gifted. Wear it and be gracious. If you want another bracelet then order one and buy it.