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rolexgiants · 20 October 2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

^^ Nope. Just to get a rise out of you Yankee fans.

another true fan who roots for a FEW teams... first he was a giants fan... now an angels fan... dont worry buddy... u will still have one more chance..... u can root for the phillies against the yankees in the world series.... LETS GO YANKEES!!!!

rolexgiants · 20 October 2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

Go Halos!!

and as far as the best and greatest goes... willie will always be behind the babe..gehrig..joe D... and mickey

rolexgiants · 20 October 2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by East Bay Rider

Angels win game 3

do you still watch the greatest game ever between the yankees and red sox in APRIL of this year....... lol..... sox fans live in april

ndane · 20 October 2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

I don't waste my energy hating the Yank-mes. There's better things to do with it. And the "machine" has done nothing with its $200M payroll since 2000. Nice long drought.

Yank-mes? You serious? I guess the days of the intelligent, witty California baseball fan are looooooong gone.

: rofl:

valentine · 20 October 2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

^^ Nope. Just to get a rise out of you Yankee fans.

there it is! this is what makes this place the best!

deserted · 20 October 2009, 11:44 PM

Go white sox ....LOL.

valentine · 20 October 2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deserted

Go white sox ....LOL.

wow...i didnt know you were literally DESERTED...man you should ask for someone to come and pick you up, dude!

you've gotta be way out there if you are just now getting the news that the white sox....didnt even come close...

(good one, by the way

)

JBat · 21 October 2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

another true fan who roots for a FEW teams... first he was a giants fan... now an angels fan... dont worry buddy... u will still have one more chance..... u can root for the phillies against the yankees in the world series.... LETS GO YANKEES!!!!

Dude, you really don't have a clue. 41 year Giants fan here, and there's no more loyal fan. I root for the Giants and whomever is playing the Yank-mes or Dodgers. You can take that to the bank.

JBat · 21 October 2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

and as far as the best and greatest goes... willie will always be behind the babe..gehrig..joe D... and mickey

You just lost all credibility as a baseball authority. The Babe and Mickey were great, but neither can carry Willie's jockstrap. You can take that to the bank too.

JBat · 21 October 2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ndane

Yank-mes? You serious? I guess the days of the intelligent, witty California baseball fan are looooooong gone.

: rofl:

Now that's funny coming from a band-wagon Yank-me fan!

JBat · 21 October 2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by valentine

there it is! this is what makes this place the best!

It's all good.

rolexgiants · 21 October 2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

You just lost all credibility as a baseball authority. The Babe and Mickey were great, but neither can carry Willie's jockstrap. You can take that to the bank too.

ur crazy.... babe was the best of all time... i threw in mickey and joe D as a joke....i will say... if mickey wasnt crippled and played longer... the argument might be different... but the top 3 of all time is... 1.babe for sure...2. ted williams.... 3.. probably willie.... he for sure was the best defensive player of all time....

rolexgiants · 21 October 2009, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

It's all good.

a lot of people give willie a bad rap because most of the giant teams he played on were terrible and he only won the world series once.... obviously not his fault...

redshirt1957 · 21 October 2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

ur crazy.... babe was the best of all time... i threw in mickey and joe D as a joke....i will say... if mickey wasnt crippled and played longer... the argument might be different... but the top 3 of all time is... 1.babe for sure...2. ted williams.... 3.. probably willie.... he for sure was the best defensive player of all time....

Mickey's story is a sad one. If he would have stayed out of the bottle, he could have been the greatest player of all times. He did good, but could have been great.

ndane · 21 October 2009, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

Now that's funny coming from a band-wagon Yank-me fan!

I know, I know, you're going to continue calling us "yank-me" fans 'cuz you don't want to show that I've gotten to you, but you should really stop because no one is taking you seriously anymore.

JBat · 21 October 2009, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

ur crazy.... babe was the best of all time... i threw in mickey and joe D as a joke....i will say... if mickey wasnt crippled and played longer... the argument might be different... but the top 3 of all time is... 1.babe for sure...2. ted williams.... 3.. probably willie.... he for sure was the best defensive player of all time....

You'll find no bigger Babe Ruth fan than me, but the greatest ever? No way. Willie Mays stole bases (338 career), was one of the greatest defensive players of all time, hit for power and average in a much tougher pitchers era and had a phenomenal throwing arm.

With all due deference to The Babe, Willie was a much more complete player. One thing I will concede: The Babe was a better pitcher than Willie.

JBat · 21 October 2009, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

a lot of people give willie a bad rap because most of the giant teams he played on were terrible and he only won the world series once.... obviously not his fault...

I don't know where you get your info, but Mays played the bulk of his career in the 60's, a decade in which the Giants won 90 games or more 6 times. Hardly crap.

And nobody with any serviceable baseball knowledge at all gives Willie Mays a bad rap. Quite the contrary, he has topped best player of all time lists many times. Those voted on by baseball writers and his peers.

JBat · 21 October 2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by redshirt1957

Mickey's story is a sad one. If he would have stayed out of the bottle, he could have been the greatest player of all times. He did good, but could have been great.

That's exactly right, Bubba. A Hall of Famer, but a lot of wasted potential.

tszyu#1 · 21 October 2009, 01:32 PM

10-1 'Yank-mes' Get over yourself!!

LET'S GO YANKEES!!!!

JBat · 21 October 2009, 01:45 PM

I think I'm going to be sick.

rolexgiants · 21 October 2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

You'll find no bigger Babe Ruth fan than me, but the greatest ever? No way. Willie Mays stole bases (338 career), was one of the greatest defensive players of all time, hit for power and average in a much tougher pitchers era and had a phenomenal throwing arm.

With all due deference to The Babe, Willie was a much more complete player. One thing I will concede: The Babe was a better pitcher than Willie.

ur FACTS are completely wrong.... 2 major sporting publications... the sporting news list of greatest players and sports illustrated both have babe ruth as the greatest baseball player of all time... if u like i can list 20 other websites and publications that have babe ruth rated above willie mays..... and anyone can just google this to PROVE IT AS FACT.....

rolexgiants · 21 October 2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

I don't know where you get your info, but Mays played the bulk of his career in the 60's, a decade in which the Giants won 90 games or more 6 times. Hardly crap.

And nobody with any serviceable baseball knowledge at all gives Willie Mays a bad rap. Quite the contrary, he has topped best player of all time lists many times. Those voted on by baseball writers and his peers.

mays played 9 years in the 50's for the giants... he also played 3 years in the 70's... so once again ur FACTS are INCORRECT... i guess the years the giants finished in 2nd place u consider winning years..... well not me...... its all about championships..... mays played for over 20 years and ONLY won the world series once.... thats a lot of losing in my book....

rolexgiants · 21 October 2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JBat

I think I'm going to be sick.

im just curious... do u think the giants will come back with lincecum today on short rest..... or pitch cain???? lol lol lol ol lol lol lol lol

JBat · 22 October 2009, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

ur FACTS are completely wrong.... 2 major sporting publications... the sporting news list of greatest players and sports illustrated both have babe ruth as the greatest baseball player of all time... if u like i can list 20 other websites and publications that have babe ruth rated above willie mays..... and anyone can just google this to PROVE IT AS FACT.....

Yes, a case can be made for Babe Ruth being the greatest of all time, of course. The same case can be made for quite a few players. But, sorry, Willie Mays played in a tougher pitchers era and a more competitive era overall. My facts are 100% correct, Willie Mays is the best ever.

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

mays played 9 years in the 50's for the giants... he also played 3 years in the 70's... so once again ur FACTS are INCORRECT... i guess the years the giants finished in 2nd place u consider winning years..... well not me...... its all about championships..... mays played for over 20 years and ONLY won the world series once.... thats a lot of losing in my book....

10 years > 9 years or 3 years. Who has their facts incorrect? I said Willie Mays played the bulk of his career in the 60's and he did. What don't you understand about that? Maybe it's time for a little remedial math!

Yes, the Giants only won one championship in his career. Many other great players won none. What is your point? The fact is, the Giants had some great teams in those years, and they came within a hair of beating your beloved Yankees in '62.

It's all about championships?

Even your boys, who have won the World Series 26 times, have failed to win it in 70 other years as the Yankees (first year as the Yankees, 1913). Were all those other years failures? I bet the players who played on some pretty great teams that didn't win it would disagree with you. But what do they know?

But you just keep on doing what Yankee fans do: be obnoxious, get drunk and take credit for what your team does.

Just remember, you haven't done squat. Your favorite baseball team has.

JBat · 22 October 2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

im just curious... do u think the giants will come back with lincecum today on short rest..... or pitch cain???? lol lol lol ol lol lol lol lol

I'll take Cain or Lincecum (with Madison Bumgarner on the way) over any of the meatballs the Yankees call pitching prospects, thank you very much. Don't get too cockyd (hard, I know). The Giants aren't that far from competing in the playoffs. I'd hate to have to face that pitching staff in a short series.

rolexgiants · 22 October 2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

I'll take Cain or Lincecum (with Madison Bumgarner on the way) over any of the meatballs the Yankees call pitching prospects, thank you very much. Don't get too cockyd (hard, I know). The Giants aren't that far from competing in the playoffs. I'd hate to have to face that pitching staff in a short series.

dont worry lincecum or cain will be a yankee within 2 years..... getting back to mays... he might not even be the best giant of all time.... as much as i hate to admit this.... bonds TOTAL numbers are better than mays..... that thought does really make me sick

JBat · 22 October 2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexgiants

dont worry lincecum or cain will be a yankee within 2 years..... getting back to mays... he might not even be the best giant of all time.... as much as i hate to admit this.... bonds TOTAL numbers are better than mays..... that thought does really make me sick

It's not always about numbers man. If I had to pick one player to start an all-time team with, it would be Mays. Bonds would certainly be in the mix.

But since the steroid era is pervasive throughout baseball, you don't want to go there. Plenty of Yankees were implicated as well.

Good luck to the Yankees the rest of the way. That's a hell of a team you have there.

rolexgiants · 22 October 2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JBat

It's not always about numbers man. If I had to pick one player to start an all-time team with, it would be Mays. Bonds would certainly be in the mix.

But since the steroid era is pervasive throughout baseball, you don't want to go there. Plenty of Yankees were implicated as well.

Good luck to the Yankees the rest of the way. That's a hell of a team you have there.

i love baseball just as you do.... i am well aware of the storied past of the giants... how many people here know that the franchise started in the late 1800's... my great grandfather had season tickets to the giants in the polo grounds....

valentine · 22 October 2009, 01:55 AM

10-1!!! that was a strong message! LETS GO YANKS!

ndane · 22 October 2009, 05:20 AM

Ken Griffey Junior >>> Willie Mays.

Sorry, but that's just the case.

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