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Old 21 October 2010, 12:35 PM   #61
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...i have a question - do you have to be a pilot to wear a GMT? do you have to run a country to wear a president? wear a milgauss? your a professor/scientist right??? it's personal preference as to what watch you wear - SIMPLE
Very well put! I agree 100%

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Old 21 October 2010, 12:39 PM   #62
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I am not a diver either, but I have always love the look (and rotating bezel function).

I have always had divers watches because of the looks and I also surf. It made perfect sence to me because it was made to wear in the ocean.
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Old 21 October 2010, 01:10 PM   #63
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i think people on here have issues with people wearing subs not for diving. i am a diver and i have just bought a sub. however, i will not ever wear it for diving as it would be pointless as my dive computer does all the other things i need (compass/depth/air & time left/water temp etc etc etc) as well as telling the time. all these people incinuating that if you own a sub you must be a diver and wear it for diving - i have a question - do you have to be a pilot to wear a GMT? do you have to run a country to wear a president? wear a milgauss? your a professor/scientist right??? it's personal preference as to what watch you wear - SIMPLE
Its almost as if all these "Joe Cool divers" (OP included) feel put out that those of us who do not dive get to wear "their" watch. To me this ongoing question by divers of non divers smacks of arrogance and, given that most all of them use a wrist dive computer themselves when diving, hypocrisy as well.

I own a Submariner ( my first Rolex) because of its timeless, classic sport watch good looks and the fact that its construction to survive the ocean at depth assures me that it will survive anything my casual wear can throw at it. It seemed an ideal watch for me as I race sailboats and the water resistant performance of the Submariner seemd a perfect matchup to my sport.

I grew up poor and was taught to save my money and buy things that are well designed/made to last and then TAKE CARE OF THEM. Fortunately, I am no longer financially challenged but the values are still ingrained in me.


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Old 21 October 2010, 02:21 PM   #64
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The OP is a member of a Sheriff Dept. rescue/dive team. I really doubt that he wears a Submariner on his wrist when he is "working" but rather with todays technologies, a dive computer or a much more sophisticated dive watch.

If that is the case, and I believe it is, He himself is guilty of owning a dive watch he does not use professionally (maybe for pleasure diving). So how much more sense does it make for him to own a Sub over a non diver if he uses a dept issue dive computer?
Wow Steve, you're full of assumptions and not a single one true. While I am a Deputy Sheriff and dive for the Dept's dive team, that's not my day job. I'm a voluntary reserve (not paid) and this is my way of giving back to my community.

I live in North Louisiana, and all of our waters here are dark, muddy.... in other words, swamps. They're laden with alligators, snakes, snapping turtles and thick vegetation...some of the most inhospitable conditions you can think of aside from a sewer. With that said, unless very shallow (less than 5 ft) you can't see your hand in front of your face, so any instrumentation is useless. We don't use computers (can't see it), the SPG is only used to see how much air you have when topside, and a watch can't normally be seen either. All of our depths are known (usually less than 30 ft), and each dive is limited to 20 minutes (time kept topside by diving supervisor) with a full rotation of the team before making a subsequent dive.

Although 99% of the time a watch would be useless under these circumstances, I still wear one. I either wear my Sea-Dweller or a DOXA 750T Searambler. The DOXA works better if there's the slightest amount of visibility, because the orange minute hand is super legible against the sunburst silver dial. The bezel is also easier to grip with gloves than the Sea-Dweller's.

Like I said, the Sheriff's Office isn't my career. I do however own a diving company and I'm also a diving instructor. I dive recreational and I'm a GUE trained technical diver. Whether I'm teaching a group of dive students (did last weekend with my 14060M), fun diving in the Gulf of Mexico (16610LV), testing diving equipment (many times with the SD), building an underwater film set for ABC Television (used the SD), recovered lost items underwater for State Farm Insurance (SD), or deco diving off the Cayman Wall (also SD), I always dive with a dive watch. I time my dive with it, trust my safety to it, and by using a few simple calculations...dive longer and safer than one using a computer.

Everyone else......interesting replies. Keep 'em coming.
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Old 21 October 2010, 02:47 PM   #65
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Wow Steve, you're full of assumptions and not a single one true. While I am a Deputy Sheriff and dive for the Dept's dive team, that's not my day job. I'm a voluntary reserve (not paid) and this is my way of giving back to my community.

I live in North Louisiana, and all of our waters here are dark, muddy.... in other words, swamps. They're laden with alligators, snakes, snapping turtles and thick vegetation...some of the most inhospitable conditions you can think of aside from a sewer. With that said, unless very shallow (less than 5 ft) you can't see your hand in front of your face, so any instrumentation is useless. We don't use computers (can't see it), the SPG is only used to see how much air you have when topside, and a watch can't normally be seen either. All of our depths are known (usually less than 30 ft), and each dive is limited to 20 minutes (time kept topside by diving supervisor) with a full rotation of the team before making a subsequent dive.

Although 99% of the time a watch would be useless under these circumstances, I still wear one. I either wear my Sea-Dweller or a DOXA 750T Searambler. The DOXA works better if there's the slightest amount of visibility, because the orange minute hand is super legible against the sunburst silver dial. The bezel is also easier to grip with gloves than the Sea-Dweller's.

Like I said, the Sheriff's Office isn't my career. I do however own a diving company and I'm also a diving instructor. I dive recreational and I'm a GUE trained technical diver. Whether I'm teaching a group of dive students (did last weekend with my 14060M), fun diving in the Gulf of Mexico (16610LV), testing diving equipment (many times with the SD), building an underwater film set for ABC Television (used the SD), recovered lost items underwater for State Farm Insurance (SD), or deco diving off the Cayman Wall (also SD), I always dive with a dive watch. I time my dive with it, trust my safety to it, and by using a few simple calculations...dive longer and safer than one using a computer.

Everyone else......interesting replies. Keep 'em coming.
Fair enough... in your case I was wrong ( please forgive me) but you must agree that the majority of todays divers are using more modern tools on their wrists these days and the theme of your OP was basically "you are a diver, and therefore you had a reason to own a Sub but for whatever reason you implied the rest of the world's non divers have no "reason" to own a Sub.

To be honest, its a bit condescending and annoying having divers, clearly wanting to announce that THEY are divers, and wondering how we mere mortal non divers justify/explain owning a "diving watch".

No offense intended, just honest thoughts and thank you for your reserve service.
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Old 21 October 2010, 04:45 PM   #66
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my reason is jus plain n simple...i wanna b James Bond da Sean Connery version !!
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Old 21 October 2010, 04:55 PM   #67
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I agree that both Sub and GMTII are very similar. I don't care about the 300m rating. However, I would go for the GMTII, but I already have the Explorer 2. In order to use the GMT II bezel, you need to know the GMT offset. You need to rotate back and forth to read the timzone 2 and 3. I really don't see the need for me. Explorer 2 is good enough for me. Also the red hand on the Explorer 2 is more visible than the dark green hand on the GMTII.
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Old 21 October 2010, 04:56 PM   #68
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Its almost as if all these "Joe Cool divers" (OP included) feel put out that those of us who do not dive get to wear "their" watch. To me this ongoing question by divers of non divers smacks of arrogance and, given that most all of them use a wrist dive computer themselves when diving, hypocrisy as well.

I own a Submariner ( my first Rolex) because of its timeless, classic sport watch good looks and the fact that its construction to survive the ocean at depth assures me that it will survive anything my casual wear can throw at it. It seemed an ideal watch for me as I race sailboats and the water resistant performance of the Submariner seemd a perfect matchup to my sport.

I grew up poor and was taught to save my money and buy things that are well designed/made to last and then TAKE CARE OF THEM. Fortunately, I am no longer financially challenged but the values are still ingrained in me.


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^^^ +1 what he said - and i'm a diver!!!!

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Old 21 October 2010, 06:15 PM   #69
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Old 21 October 2010, 07:45 PM   #70
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Old 22 October 2010, 03:44 AM   #71
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A few years back, I bought a GMT llC SS brand new thinking this was the coolest,flashiest,most updated hunk of watch to come out of Rolex in years. But after wearing it for a few months, its became too in your face and flashy (at least for me) and didnt sing to me anymore; looked around for a trade replacement and fell head over heels for the SS sub. Its clean ,subtle, but still with a hint of flair. bought it and never looked back.
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Old 22 October 2010, 04:14 AM   #72
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that is beautiful but i think my sub is way better! :)

I love classic pieces. The sub is classic to me and ive always wanted one since i was younger. Since you are a diver how come you didndt got with a DSSD? ill get a pepsi gmt but currently i dont like the shiny bracelet on the gmt
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